Dartmouth rival??

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does anyone know which institution is dartmouths rivalry???i cant seem to find it. there is cal-stanford, harvard-yale, sc-ucla, oklahoma-texas, mit-cit......

 

[SigurRos]

New Hampshire State

 

[UCDavisdude]

New Hampshire State

really?

 

[shook33]

princeton

 

[nygiant]

Actually, their biggest rival is Colgate.

 

[linuxizer]

princeton

Nope. Princeton-Penn:
<<Still, the Princeton-Penn rivalry began to take hold during the Ivy League’s first decade. Princeton dominated its series with Penn then, winning 15 of 20 games. The Tigers also won five league titles during that span while the Quakers never finished better than second in the standings. Despite the lopsided matchup, the passion already was growing. Former Princeton Coach Willem “Butch” van Breda Kolff ’45, who guided the Tigers from 1962 to 1967, was quoted on a plaque in the Palestra as saying, “I just never liked Penn – don’t know why, just never did. And I don’t think they ever liked us much either.”>>
http://www.princeton.edu/~paw/archive_new/PAW03-04/07-0128/features1.html

--Ari

 

[Drogba]

Nope. Princeton-Penn:
<<Still, the Princeton-Penn rivalry began to take hold during the Ivy League's first decade. Princeton dominated its series with Penn then, winning 15 of 20 games. The Tigers also won five league titles during that span while the Quakers never finished better than second in the standings. Despite the lopsided matchup, the passion already was growing. Former Princeton Coach Willem "Butch" van Breda Kolff '45, who guided the Tigers from 1962 to 1967, was quoted on a plaque in the Palestra as saying, "I just never liked Penn &#8211; don't know why, just never did. And I don't think they ever liked us much either.">>
http://www.princeton.edu/~paw/archive_new/PAW03-04/07-0128/features1.html

--Ari

Only really for basketball. and there Penn>>>Princeton.

 

[167649]

Years ago I was at a Dmouth football game, I remember one of the fans kept yelling "****** them!" "Fetch their honor!" Only the Ivy League....

Can't remember who they were playing though.

 

[Drogba]

Years ago I was at a Dmouth football game, I remember one of the fans kept yelling "****** them!" "Fetch their honor!" Only the Ivy League....

Can't remember who they were playing though.

Haha is that true? If so what a wonderful piece of self parody

 

[167649]

Haha is that true? If so what a wonderful piece of self parody

It is true. I died laughing when I heard it. Some drunk yet clever student.

 

[skijumpbump]

"Punish them, punish them, make them relinquish the ball." I have been to many Dartmouth Football games and this is my favorite.

 

[Inuranic]

Heh, there is no "New Hampshire State". There's the University of New Hampshire, and there are two State colleges. Maybe it is Dartmouth/UNH, as I've never heard of anything else.

 

[HSM3]

I went to Dartmouth, depends on the sport. No real all around rival

Hockey -> Princeton
Lacrosse -> Princeton
Football -> Columbia maybe? who knows, we're awful

 

[aaj117]

Nope. Princeton-Penn:
<<Still, the Princeton-Penn rivalry began to take hold during the Ivy League’s first decade. Princeton dominated its series with Penn then, winning 15 of 20 games. The Tigers also won five league titles during that span while the Quakers never finished better than second in the standings. Despite the lopsided matchup, the passion already was growing. Former Princeton Coach Willem “Butch” van Breda Kolff ’45, who guided the Tigers from 1962 to 1967, was quoted on a plaque in the Palestra as saying, “I just never liked Penn – don’t know why, just never did. And I don’t think they ever liked us much either.”>>
http://www.princeton.edu/~paw/archive_new/PAW03-04/07-0128/features1.html

--Ari

It's funny i always found that Penn people considered princeton rivals, but princeton people weren't really informed. Haha i had no idea until a senior year football game when i was hanging out with a penn student that we were "rivals". The big games for us were harvard and yale, and that was it. Basketball, i guess penn was a "rival", but we weren't generally good at basketball, i think only my freshman year in the past five years, so that was never a big deal.

 

[Drogba]

It's funny i always found that Penn people considered princeton rivals, but princeton people weren't really informed. Haha i had no idea until a senior year football game when i was hanging out with a penn student that we were "rivals". The big games for us were harvard and yale, and that was it. Basketball, i guess penn was a "rival", but we weren't generally good at basketball, i think only my freshman year in the past five years, so that was never a big deal.

Cus you guys suck now. Don't gimme that we don't consider them rivals act, just cus Penn dominates in bball now. No one cares about princeton except destroying them in basketball You guys aren't very good in football either.

Better luck this year.

 

[aaj117]

Cus you guys suck now. Don't gimme that we don't consider them rivals act, just cus Penn dominates in bball now. No one cares about princeton except destroying them in basketball You guys aren't very good in football either.

Better luck this year.

Ummm we were definitely Ivy league champs in football the year I graduated. Unfortunately all the best players graduated wtih me, so they did suck this year. Badly. And no honestly, i swear, we don't consider penn rivals. All of my roommates and i were shocked to learn that penn considered us rivals (senior year). We honestly just didn't know. I guess cuz we were more into football than basketball, and you guys weren't much competition in the football side of things. Now, neither of us are. the penn-princeton game this year was the worst game i've ever seen.

 

[Drogba]

Ummm we were definitely Ivy league champs in football the year I graduated. Unfortunately all the best players graduated wtih me, so they did suck this year. Badly. And no honestly, i swear, we don't consider penn rivals. All of my roommates and i were shocked to learn that penn considered us rivals (senior year). We honestly just didn't know. I guess cuz we were more into football than basketball, and you guys weren't much competition in the football side of things. Now, neither of us are. the penn-princeton game this year was the worst game i've ever seen.

The people that follow basketball know. Princeton didn't always get dominated by Penn. I guess interest wanes when you suck ;]. Aside from basketball though there is no interest in penn-princeton.

Did princeton tie yale anyway? They hadn't won since 1995 before that. Penn's won 4 in that same period ;]

 

[aaj117]

The people that follow basketball know. Princeton didn't always get dominated by Penn. I guess interest wanes when you suck ;]. Aside from basketball though there is no interest in penn-princeton.

Did princeton tie yale anyway? They hadn't won since 1995 before that. Penn's won 4 in that same period ;]

Yeah princeton tied yale. coincidentally, the only game we lost last year was cornell. i'm like 99% sure that that was the only game cornell won. The only game yale lost was to princeton. So we tied record-wise, but really all that makes a season at princeton is beating harvard and yale. If we won those two games and lost everything else the whole season, there would still be a bonfire and big celebration.

PS we have totally hijacked this thread.

 

[Drogba]

Yeah princeton tied yale. coincidentally, the only game we lost last year was cornell. i'm like 99% sure that that was the only game cornell won. The only game yale lost was to princeton. So we tied record-wise, but really all that makes a season at princeton is beating harvard and yale. If we won those two games and lost everything else the whole season, there would still be a bonfire and big celebration.

PS we have totally hijacked this thread.

Oh shame

Don't you guys have a bonfire just for beating Yale or do you guys have to beat both Yale and Harvard.

 

[aaj117]

Oh shame

Don't you guys have a bonfire just for beating Yale or do you guys have to beat both Yale and Harvard.

We have to beat both Yale and Harvard. Coincidentally, the last time we had one of those was also 1995, until my senoir year. It was a great way to go out. The night before our last home game of the season.

 

[HanginInThere]

We have to beat both Yale and Harvard. Coincidentally, the last time we had one of those was also 1995, until my senoir year. It was a great way to go out. The night before our last home game of the season.

Okay, this is a good time to bring the thread back on-topic. I graduated from Dartmouth in '95, and when I was there the football team was an Ivy League powerhouse: Ivy champs in 91 and 92 behind QB Jay Fiedler, who went on to a long NFL career which included starting a season or two for the Dolphins. (And yes, I know how "Ivy League powerhouse" sounds to big program schools - humor me!)

I was never aware of a real rivalry - there was some with Princeton, who were also good during those years, but no sense of a long history/tradition at the Harvard/Yale, Cal/Stanford, Cowboys/Packers, Yankees/Sox level with anyone.

Some people thought there was a Harvard rivalry, but that always seemed very one-sided and a little sad.

Speaking of sad, I never heard the "****** them!" cheers when I was there. Back in my day, the big chant was always "Safety School!" It was, as I said, kind of sad when we played Harvard, cute against any of the other Ivys, and just mean against schools like Colgate or UNH.

 

[aaj117]

Some people thought there was a Harvard rivalry, but that always seemed very one-sided and a little sad.

Speaking of sad, I never heard the "****** them!" cheers when I was there. Back in my day, the big chant was always "Safety School!" It was, as I said, kind of sad when we played Harvard, cute against any of the other Ivys, and just mean against schools like Colgate or UNH.

Safety school is still used. In fact, i think it's our most popular one. And luckily, usually applicable. Haha since princeton has been #1 for undergraduate schools (US NEWS-wise) for years now, for the harvard game, some students had t-shirts made up that said on the front "what do harvard and **** have in common?" and on the back "they're both #2". Those sold pretty well.

The one-sided rivalry was similar to what i was trying to get accross for the princeton-penn thing.

 

[Drogba]

Safety school is still used. In fact, i think it's our most popular one. And luckily, usually applicable. Haha since princeton has been #1 for undergraduate schools (US NEWS-wise) for years now, for the harvard game, some students had t-shirts made up that said on the front "what do harvard and **** have in common?" and on the back "they're both #2". Those sold pretty well.

The one-sided rivalry was similar to what i was trying to get accross for the princeton-penn thing.

I don't know. 51 Ivy championships. 48 to either Penn or Princeton. The rivalry is very real in b-ball.

A more general rivalry might be in Penn's mind, though this is not reflected among the students at Penn I know. Apparently there is some evidence of it in any case

"While Penn considers Princeton to be its rival, Princeton considers Yale to be its rival. Yale, in turn, considers Harvard to be its rival. And Harvard, in turn, believes it has no rivals, which is why every other Ivy loves beating Harvard in any given sport (which is not hard to do).

Sure, we may say that we have a rivalry with Princeton and wear our "Puck Frinceton" T-shirts. But, at the end of the day, if basketball is the only sport in which we passionately care about the outcome of the Penn-Princeton match-up, then there really is not much to the rivalry at all.

...

However, I would be remiss if I didn't add that the limited scope of the "rivalry" could simply be because Penn has clearly won, and the rivalry has been settled. Once Penn stole Amy Gutmann from Princeton, it not only wounded but decapitated and finished off the specter of any sort of rivalry with Princeton. Hence, it may be that the final stroke in this rivalry has already been played out, and Penn has nothing to prove to Princeton. In which case, forget the Penn-Princeton "rivalry."

Either way, it's just a myth.
"

http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian...ary.Podkul.Rivalry.What.Rivalry-2327277.shtml

 

[aaj117]

hey drogba,
have you graduated from penn or are you still there? and if you graduated, do you still live in philly?

 

[Drogba]

Not graduated. Didn't start my college career there either, so I guess I'm not as caught up in the politics or interested as other students. Doing some research I can see there has been some pretty bad blood over the years.

"he Xs, Os and statistical outcomes of the 2004 basketball season. Victory might finally convince the Quakers what for Princetonians has long been assumed common knowledge &#8212; Penn never was, and never will be one of the Big Three of the Ivies. And rest assured, its rise in the US News and World Report rankings has only instilled a false sense of pride in them. Let's be honest, for most of us Penn was just a safety school. Fine, their business school is pretty good, but who can name one famous Penn professor?"

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2003/04/09/news/7858.shtml

Ouch. No wonder people have such a negative perception of the Ivies sometimes. Talk about pretension. I guess thats what happens when you go to school in the middle of nowhere new jersey.

 

[MsJLewis]

I feel sorry for Columbia. Who is their rival?

 

[aaj117]

haha i mean it's not just the location and boredom that leads us to think that way, it's just that we really are better than everyone. what can you do?
(for anyone that has trouble with sarcasm on the internet, this is totally a joke. Some princeton people really do feel this way, and i enjoy playing on it. for the most part, people at princeton are down to earth, normal and fun).

I actually go to penn now for a post-bacc, so i've seen students on both sides of this. That's why i say i feel like it's one sided, having attended both schools. Entirely different mentalities. Entirely different student bodies.

 

[aaj117]

I feel sorry for Columbia. Who is their rival?

haha themselves. It should be easy enough to beat their own sports records that they don't get a rival until they do so.

 

[Drogba]

haha i mean it's not just the location and boredom that leads us to think that way, it's just that we really are better than everyone. what can you do?
(for anyone that has trouble with sarcasm on the internet, this is totally a joke. Some princeton people really do feel this way, and i enjoy playing on it. for the most part, people at princeton are down to earth, normal and fun).

I actually go to penn now for a post-bacc, so i've seen students on both sides of this. That's why i say i feel like it's one sided, having attended both schools. Entirely different mentalities. Entirely different student bodies.

That's definitely true. I've not attended Princeton, obviously, but I've spent time there. I actually was a little turned off by the prevailing atmosphere and the student body for the most part, not that there weren't some cool kids. I also spend a lot of my time with transfers here so that might have an impact on my percetion. You also probably have a somewhat unique perspective a post-bacc. How do you like it in philly?

Personally I could've never gone to school in a location like that, where the town is an artificial extension of the university. That being said, Princeton does an awesome job of taking care of its students. That nearly 1.4 mil per student endowment is 100% in evidence throughout . Also, the major requirements are significantly less than at Penn, which is nice.

 

[MsJLewis]

haha themselves. It should be easy enough to beat their own sports records that they don't get a rival until they do so.

 

[HanginInThere]

"While Penn considers Princeton to be its rival, Princeton considers Yale to be its rival. Yale, in turn, considers Harvard to be its rival. And Harvard, in turn, believes it has no rivals, which is why every other Ivy loves beating Harvard in any given sport (which is not hard to do). "

"he Xs, Os and statistical outcomes of the 2004 basketball season. Victory might finally convince the Quakers what for Princetonians has long been assumed common knowledge — Penn never was, and never will be one of the Big Three of the Ivies. And rest assured, its rise in the US News and World Report rankings has only instilled a false sense of pride in them. Let's be honest, for most of us Penn was just a safety school. Fine, their business school is pretty good, but who can name one famous Penn professor?"-

Nice illustration of your point!

Now why don't you all find your own thread and leave this one to us Dartmouth folks?

 

[aaj117]

That's definitely true. I've not attended Princeton, obviously, but I've spent time there. I actually was a little turned off by the prevailing atmosphere and the student body for the most part, not that there weren't some cool kids. I also spend a lot of my time with transfers here so that might have an impact on my percetion. You also probably have a somewhat unique perspective a post-bacc. How do you like it in philly?

Personally I could've never gone to school in a location like that, where the town is an artificial extension of the university. That being said, Princeton does an awesome job of taking care of its students. That nearly 1.4 mil per student endowment is 100% in evidence throughout . Also, the major requirements are significantly less than at Penn, which is nice.

It's funny you say that, because i am totally turned off by the atmosphere at penn. One of my classes was with like all other post-bacc students, another mostly undergrads and a few grad students. i also know a good amount of undergrads and med students there socially, and it's just not the place for me. I've made some good friends and had some fun, but i'm glad to be leaving soon.
I like philly enough, but i miss NY. Even at princeton i was close enoguh to NY to spend like every other weekend in nyc wtih my friends. Princeton was a nice place to be for a little while, but i definitely couldn't do more than 4 or 5 years there, i don't know how anyone could consider going there for grad school after undergrad. I love it though, don't get me wrong! but it is all about the undergrads. we are sooooo spoiled with sportsnighters and thesis funding and the professors and the dorms and well, life. everything except grades, really.

 

[aaj117]

Now why don't you all find your own thread and leave this one to us Dartmouth folks?

we would, but this threads already got that nice, broken in thread feel.

 

[Drogba]

It's funny you say that, because i am totally turned off by the atmosphere at penn. One of my classes was with like all other post-bacc students, another mostly undergrads and a few grad students. i also know a good amount of undergrads and med students there socially, and it's just not the place for me. I've made some good friends and had some fun, but i'm glad to be leaving soon.
I like philly enough, but i miss NY. Even at princeton i was close enoguh to NY to spend like every other weekend in nyc wtih my friends. Princeton was a nice place to be for a little while, but i definitely couldn't do more than 4 or 5 years there, i don't know how anyone could consider going there for grad school after undergrad. I love it though, don't get me wrong! but it is all about the undergrads. we are sooooo spoiled with sportsnighters and thesis funding and the professors and the dorms and well, life. everything except grades, really.

Yeah I can't imagine how anyone could live there so much unless they were completely involved with there work and couldn't care about anything else. That or living between NYC and PT would be the only ways I could see someone going there. You guys are definitely spoiled, even with grades (at least thats what your own administration seems to think).

Nice illustration of your point!

Now why don't you all find your own thread and leave this one to us Dartmouth folks?

Because, as students of higher ranked Ivies, we have little regard for Dartmouth.

 

[HanginInThere]

Because, as students of higher ranked Ivies, we have little regard for Dartmouth.

Sure, I get it. So little regard that you just "happen" to keep coming back to post on a Dartmouth thread. Makes sense to me. 😉

<old man voice> Hey, you kids! Get off my lawn! </old man voice>

 

[aaj117]

Sure, I get it. So little regard that you just "happen" to keep coming back to post on a Dartmouth thread. Makes sense to me. 😉

In fact this appears to be a thread about dartmouth rivals. I guess that could be considered any Ivy school they're playing in an individual sport, and therefore this isn't a dartmouth thread but an "all-ivy-but-dartmouth" thread.


(Sorry, i'm in an especially bad mood this week, so my sense of humor is just not where it should be).

 

[HanginInThere]

(Sorry, i'm in an especially bad mood this week, so my sense of humor is just not where it should be).

No worries. I'm really not at all possesive about threads just because they mention Dartmouth in the title - I'm just joking around. If the irony and sarcasm isn't coming through on my posts, chances are it's my own fault.

Now cheer up!

 

[UCDavisdude]

"Punish them, punish them, make them relinquish the ball." I have been to many Dartmouth Football games and this is my favorite.

hahaha. thats a good one.

 

[UCDavisdude]

Yeah I can't imagine how anyone could live there so much unless they were completely involved with there work and couldn't care about anything else. That or living between NYC and PT would be the only ways I could see someone going there. You guys are definitely spoiled, even with grades (at least thats what your own administration seems to think).



Because, as students of higher ranked Ivies, we have little regard for Dartmouth.

ouuuch!