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What is the molality of 85% phosphoric acid, H3PO4, if the density of the solution is 1.70 g/ml?

answer: 1000 * (1/1.70) * (100.0 / 15.0) * (1.70/1) * (85.0 / 100.0) * (1/98) m

i dont get it, can someone explain this to me?
 
Hmm, I can see why this answer is puzzling - I'm not sure what the purpose is of including the density in the calculation when it is clearly unnecessary. That's also why it just cancels itself out in the equation... I worked it out though and my final (calculated) answer would be the same as the one given:

First, whenever they give you a percentage in a solution, it is a mass percent so you assume it is out of 100 g solution. So in this case 85% gives you (85g H3PO4/ 100g solution). Since the question asks for molality, you need to ultimately end up with moles of H3PO4 over kilograms of solvent. Dividing by A.W. of H3PO4 (1/98g) gives you moles. Now to get kg of solvent: if 85 out of 100g is the solute, then the 15g leftover is solvent. So for every 100g solution you have 15g solvent (100g/15g). Then you multiply by 1000 to convert grams to kilograms.

(85/100) (1/98) (100/15) (1000) = mol H3PO4/ kg solvent

That's the best I can do. I don't know what the other answer choices were but I would hope if we got this far we would choose the correct answer realizing that the densities cancel out... unless they have what I just wrote as one of the wrong answers - but that would just be cruel. Hope that helps...
 
What is the molality of 85% phosphoric acid, H3PO4, if the density of the solution is 1.70 g/ml?

answer: 1000 * (1/1.70) * (100.0 / 15.0) * (1.70/1) * (85.0 / 100.0) * (1/98) m

i dont get it, can someone explain this to me?

Let me try putting in the units and see if this will better help explain:

(1000 g solvent / 1 kg solvent) * [1 ml solution / (1.70 * 0.15) g solvent] * [(1.70 * 0.85) g solute / 1 ml solution] * (1 mol solute/ 98 g solute)

If you cancel out the units, you'll be left with: mol solute / kg solvent = molality

Also, 1/0.15 may be expressed as 100.0/15.0, while 0.85 as 85.0/100.0, and likewise 1000/1 as 1000, so you may conform the expression to the unsimplified answer choice.
 
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