Dat Breakdown 8/26/17

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Hi everyone just took the DAT yesterday and want to share my experience and give back to this forum. My scores were:

BIO 21
GC 21
OC 30
PAT 22
RC 22
QR 20

AA 23
TS 22

BIO: Russell's notes, DAT Qvault, Cliffs 3rd, Cambell's powerpoint, Bootcamp,Destroyer

I actually loved Russell's notes. After reading Cliffs, I converted his notes into a word document and removed everything I was strong in. I then turned them into an incomplete outline by deleting anything in bold. Dat Qvault was pretty good but I never managed anything past an 18-19. For the physio stuff I used the powerpoints provided by Cambell's. I liked the Genius exams (6-10) more than exams 1-5 on BC because they had GREAT explanations. A couple days before test day I did all of Destroyer's questions and was studying stuff even on the way there!

Test:
Don't neglect any subject! I got some very low yield questions on my test, and 5-6 questions about the same subject. I remember contemplating whether it would be worth the time to cover it in depth and am glad I did, if not I would have been screwed and probably thrown off for the rest of the exam.

CHEM/OCHEM: Chad, Destroyer, Bootcamp, ACS study guide

I took chemistry and biology what feels like ages ago! But Chad and Destroyer is all I needed. On the harder stuff, I memorized my notes and recorded myself on the whiteboard teaching it and watched everything as a final review. If you can talk about thermodynamics in a conversational way, you can answer any concept question they throw at you. I also converted Chad's ochem lectures to an audio file and listened to them while I went running and tried to visualize his whiteboard.

Test:
Bootcamp was pretty close to the real thing for sure. I finished all three sections with 30 minutes to spare, and really believed I aced the gchem section too! If you're comfortable with Destroyer the official is cake.

PAT: CDP, BC

The reason people complain about CDP being too easy is because they use it wrong. For their TFE don't use the line counting method. CDP does give bad advice though. BC is great also but way too clean. Overall, each subject for PAT just takes a lot of practice until the light bulb turn on.

Test:
The official really threw me off because the quality was so poor (like CDP). It was hard to figure out whether a side was shaded and the proportions were off. I thought rocks were a myth, so when I saw them on my test I immediately... skipped them. The keyhole circles were super large. Also don't make the same mistake as I did and drink too much water...

RC: BC

I read scientific articles kind of on a regular basis, so that helped. If you use the map method practice with those crappy, fat expo markers.

Test:
I just did a couple practice tests and got lucky with two easy articles. I almost ruined this section though because I left my ID in my truck and had to run to the parking lot. But it turned out it was not in my messy truck, so I ran back and discovered that it was right by the computer... I got back just in time!

QR: Both Destroyers, BC, GRE QC, Chad

When I started doing my research on SDN about which resources to use, I was a little skeptical about Orgoman. It just seemed like they were using this forum for extensive marketing. But what I realized is that this product is pretty special, and I believe the guy that made it is very smart and deeply cares about its reputation. I'm a slow poke, and without this product my score would have looked like my first BC test (15).

Test:
Every question that was not QC was drilled in my muscle memory thanks to Math Destroyer. I'm sure the next editions will have a lot of QC problems so will still be a MUST BUY ITEM. Also, while you practice, get good at quickly recognizing the type of question that's being asked.


Overall this summer was pretty difficult. It's a really good idea to save money way in advance to cover bills and fees because this will make your life so much easier! Also sleep is very important. During the first month I pulled all nighters and my sleep schedule was very inconsistent. Melatonin and banning electronic devices in bed changed all this rather quickly.

What helped me with time efficiency was only reviewing stuff I was weak in after my initial review. Reviewing everything again is like cutting grass and restarting the whole job because you missed one spot lol I did not follow Ari's schedule, but did a little bit of everything every day.

Thank you so much guys, and if you have any questions please ask me!
 

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Congratulations, DAT Beast Destroyed. Love the 30 in Orgo. I work very hard on my materials and they are tough but if you can master them you have a great chance to score high on the DAT. Thanks for the detailed breakdown it will help a lot of students.

Good luck

Dr. Jim Romano
 
Nice OC! Woooooo! Congrats on your scores! 🙂 As for hours, you're definitely going to need more. Anywhere between 50-100 is pretty good. You can refer to this thread here: 2015 Guide to Dental School Admission to find the specifics of GPA and hours, etc. As for applying, do you have a PS ready..? Would you be able to submit in the next two days? It is getting pretty late (don't worry, I myself only applied a week ago), and your application/GPA needs to be verified before it is even sent out to schools (which takes ~2 weeks). But if you haven't started on anything, I'd suggest applying next cycle :/ Hope this helps.
 
Hi everyone just took the DAT yesterday and want to share my experience and give back to this forum. My scores were:

BIO 21
GC 21
OC 30
PAT 22
RC 22
QR 20

AA 23
TS 22

BIO: Russell's notes, DAT Qvault, Cliffs 3rd, Cambell's powerpoint, Bootcamp,Destroyer

I actually loved Russell's notes. After reading Cliffs, I converted his notes into a word document and removed everything I was strong in. I then turned them into an incomplete outline by deleting anything in bold. Dat Qvault was pretty good but I never managed anything past an 18-19. For the physio stuff I used the powerpoints provided by Cambell's. I liked the Genius exams (6-10) more than exams 1-5 on BC because they had GREAT explanations. A couple days before test day I did all of Destroyer's questions and was studying stuff even on the way there!

Test:
Don't neglect any subject! I got some very low yield questions on my test, and 5-6 questions about the same subject. I remember contemplating whether it would be worth the time to cover it in depth and am glad I did, if not I would have been screwed and probably thrown off for the rest of the exam.

CHEM/OCHEM: Chad, Destroyer, Bootcamp, ACS study guide

I took dual chemistry and biology my junior year of high school 6 years ago! But Chad and Destroyer is all I needed. On the harder stuff, I memorized my notes and recorded myself on the whiteboard teaching it and watched everything as a final review. If you can talk about thermodynamics in a conversational way, you can answer any concept question they throw at you. I also converted Chad's ochem lectures to an audio file and listened to them while I went running/biking and tried to visualize his whiteboard.

Test:
Bootcamp was pretty close to the real thing for sure. I finished all three sections with 30 minutes to spare, and really believed I aced the gchem section too! If you're comfortable with Destroyer the official is cake.

PAT: CDP, BC

The reason people complain about CDP being too easy is because they use it wrong. For their TFE don't use the line counting method. CDP does give bad advice though (but I watched them all because the instructor was pretty cute). BC is great also but way too clean. Overall, each subject for PAT just takes a lot of practice until the light bulb goes off.

Test:
The official really threw me off because the quality was so poor (like CDP). It was hard to figure out whether a side was shaded and the proportions were off. I thought rocks were a myth, so when I saw them on my test I immediately... skipped them. The keyhole circles were super large. Also don't make the same mistake as I did and drink too much water...

RC: BC

I read scientific articles related to my thesis project on a regular basis, so that helped. If you use the map method practice with those crappy expo markers.

Test:
I just did a couple practice tests and got lucky with two easy articles. I almost ruined this section though because I left my ID in my truck and had to run to the parking lot. But it turned out it was not in my messy truck, so I ran back and discovered that it was right by the computer... When I sat down my test already started!

QR: Both Destroyers, BC, GRE QC, Chad

When I started doing my research on SDN about which resources to use, I was a little skeptical about Orgoman. It just seemed like they were using this forum for extensive marketing. But what I realized is that this product is pretty special, and I believe the guy that made it is very smart and deeply cares about its reputation. I'm a slow poke, and without this product my score would have looked like my first BC test (15).

Test:
Every question that was not QC was drilled in my muscle memory thanks to Math Destroyer. I'm sure the next editions will have a lot of QC problems so will still be a MUST BUY ITEM. Also, while you practice, get good at quickly recognizing the type of question that's being asked.


Overall this summer was pretty difficult. It's a really good idea to save money way in advance to cover bills and fees because this will make your life so much easier! Also sleep is very important. During the first month I pulled all nighters and my sleep schedule was very inconsistent. Melatonin and banning electronic devices in bed changed all this rather quickly.

What helped me with time efficiency was only reviewing stuff I was weak in after my initial review. Reviewing everything again is like cutting grass and restarting the whole job because you missed one spot lol I did not follow Ari's schedule, but did a little bit of everything every day.

I'm a CMB thesis student with a graduate gpa of 3.85, undergrad sci and overall of 3.62 and 3.76. I initially wanted to get my phd to teach and do research, but life in research is a lot of work with possibly no reward and is very lonely. When I went to see my dentist we had a great conversation and he invited me to shadow him. I've always been good with my hands and love interacting with people, so watching him work, I easily pictured a 50 year old me doing the same thing lol

But this is all pretty recent, and this summer was very busy with teaching, school, research and studying for the DAT. With that I only have about 12 hours shadowing. Am I in a compromised position to apply this cycle? And should I shoot for the stars (Harvard)?

Thank you so much guys, and if you have any questions please ask me!
 
Go for Harvard! You are not too late, read what was taken from their website.

Nancy

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Nice OC! Woooooo! Congrats on your scores! 🙂 As for hours, you're definitely going to need more. Anywhere between 50-100 is pretty good. You can refer to this thread here: 2015 Guide to Dental School Admission to find the specifics of GPA and hours, etc. As for applying, do you have a PS ready..? Would you be able to submit in the next two days? It is getting pretty late (don't worry, I myself only applied a week ago), and your application/GPA needs to be verified before it is even sent out to schools (which takes ~2 weeks). But if you haven't started on anything, I'd suggest applying next cycle :/ Hope this helps.

Thank you so much!
 
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