DAT done 10/29/09 Need advice

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The results of a week long cram session... I am a junior and was going to take it at the end of august and did a decent amount of prep from the kaplan online course in august but didn't feel ready and postponed it... However, I was too busy this semester and didn't touch my kaplan materials again until last friday (I skipped all my classes this week and spent all my time since friday reviewing).

PAT 17
QR 20
RC 25
Bio 19
GC 19
OC 20

TS 19
AA 21

Mini-Breakdown:
Bio: Thought this was pretty tough there was a bunch that I wasn't sure about... happy with the 19
GC: Easier than kaplan not many calculations at all, thought I did better
OC: Some oddballs but not too tough overall
PAT: I think I looked at the clock too much when I was narrowing down answers and felt I had to hurry... I was averging 18/19 on kaplan but the angles here were much tougher... If I had found this forum earlier I wouldave gotten CDP maybe it wouldave helped. Hole punching I usually ace in kaplan but the stupid prometric markers had dried out so I couldn't use them to make a diagram of the holes as I usually do.
RC: Didn't do any prep for this I've always done real well in reading on standardized tests... Just a naturally fast reader I guess, I think it's from spending too much time reading video game forums as a kid. Lots of tone questions.
QR: Easy questions overall I thought... I misread the clock somewhere in the middle of the section and thought I was way ahead of pace so I started double checking my answers and taking my time as I went.. only to realize I wasn't ahead of pace at all about 10 questions later. Was in a time crunch at the end... I shouldave done better.


Now, I need to decide whether to retake (I am studying abroad next semester so probably would do it late june). I am a junior right now and calculated I will probably have a 3.77 sci & 3.85 ovr gpa at the time I apply. I know that I can get in somewhere with that DAT and gpa but my in-state school is Minnesota and it would save me a lot of money to go there. However, the profile of their incoming 2009-2010 class worries me (http://www.dentistry.umn.edu/progra...ram/admissions_information/home.html#required)

19.69 AA avg.
20.72 PAT avg.
3.64/3.68 sci/ovr gpa avg.

That PAT average leads me to believe they accept very few people with a sub 19 PAT... Do I have a shot at getting in since my other stats are higher than average or is the PAT just that important at Minnesota? Should I retake and, if so, do all the PAT books/programs really help significantly imporve your score?
 
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Or.... most the people with AA 20+ subsequently had 20+ PAT's. You have good scores, especially your AA. PAT is one of those sections that people really believe they can improve, and improvement is possible. But don't let your desire to improve the PAT overlook your success on the overall test.

Good scores, call Minnesota and see what they think.
 
i wouldn't worry about your PAT. if you find Doctoothache's post about each school's emphasis on PAT, you'll find that schools are starting to care less and less about this section.

Your RC score is AMAZING. that's going to get you interviews. nice job!
 
thanks, and yeah unfortunately most of the schools I am looking at do emphasize it. So should I just call the admissions office of minnesota and ask them if they admit people with a 17 PAT?
 
thanks, and yeah unfortunately most of the schools I am looking at do emphasize it. So should I just call the admissions office of minnesota and ask them if they admit people with a 17 PAT?

Yea and if you have already applied ask them to bring up your record so they can judge your PAT with the rest of your application
 
Just want to say solid scores, congrats.

I don't think there's a point in asking or calling, what is done is done. You can't change your score nor can you change schools' cut off by calling them... now it's a matter of sit tight and wait.

Good luck
 
well the thing is I am applying next cycle so I still have plenty of time to retake if it is the best option for me
 
well the thing is I am applying next cycle so I still have plenty of time to retake if it is the best option for me

I think you have great scores too, but if you are applying next cycle it's important to make sure Minn. will consider a 17 PAT if that's your #1. I really think you will be alright and even if you take it again your solid scores show that you can succeed .. CALL
 
called MN and they said 17 is the minimum they accept so looks like I just made the cutoff. I think I am just gonna apply I don't want to go through studying for this test again and i'd be fine with just going to marquette anyway.
 
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