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OF09

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Scores:
PA 21
QR 20
RC 21
Biology 22
O Chem 25
Chem 25
Total Science 23
AA 23 (99.7)

This breakdown is a conversational ramble. If you have specific questions feel free to PM me.

Background: I basically studied math for 1-2 hours a day for 2 weeks while my soon to be fiance studied (he got a 24), and then 13 hours a day for 11 days (with my dad cooking, running to walmart, etc. for me). Paying attention to class was ESSENTIAL to doing well on this and really saved me because I knew pretty much everything I studied, I just had to review it a little. I am also a tutor so the semi-constant reviewing of biology/o chem definitely helped my info retention.


Things that I did that wasted my time:
-MAINLY: I did not have a plan. I spent time doing things that in retrospect, were a waste. I would make a list of what you want to buy, when you are going to do it, and don't stray.
-I made too many Anki cards. Making them helped me to remember- I guess? but I never went through any stack fully once I made it. This is a good tool though.
-I tried to research every random bio fact that I missed on topscore- MAJOR WASTE. P.S. Be careful what you deem a waste.
-I did not order the 2009 sample test FAST ENOUGH. This test is still VERY relevant IMO (I'm not sure they took those questions out of the test bank / ) order it.

Final/most useful study techniques and tips:
Post it note/walmart see through sticky tabs. Mark every question that you miss as you miss them. Writing them down to the side is inconvenient. Working through a whole test then going back to correct temporarily reinforces bad processes/thoughts-- so instead I write down 10 answers somewhere on my writing board and check directly after I work each one.
*Buy a writing board with a thin dry erase pen to imitate the testing environment.
*Try not to take naps in the day until After your test would be done.
*If you only have two weeks, avoid facebook, avoid laying in bed before you are about to pass out, etc. that waste time.
*PRACTICE rounding/doing math on your board when doing math problems so that you get faster.

PAT:
Starting point: 21 topscore/19ish on CDP
Day before test: 22 on CDP
Total tests taken: 4
Accuracy of tests: very accurate. I was always getting 14-15s/15 on some sections, and then randomly bombing either angles, TFE, or cube counting....
Advice: Develop your OWN methods if nothing works. I used 4x4 for pattern folding, a table for cube counting (with Only the numbers they ask for). I didn't score the best on this though.

Biology:
Hit or miss. There were ~5 questions that I knew I was guessing on--they weren't TERRIBLY random...but a couple were definitely more in depth than barrons/Cliffs. I did not have time to do destroyer/achiever/etc. anything beyond AP bio flashcards/browsing through AP bio books.

QR: Time was a huge issue for me. I started off very weak (had to learn the trig formulas, log stuff, ln stuff) in this area and did not have much time to improve. I would recommend skipping the hard ones and doing the easy ones if you struggle with this. Achiever is ridiculous, a waste of time, don't do it. Math Destroyer was awesome-- one thing that it didn't cover was P values .

RC: was a lot harder than I thought it would be. I am a naturally "talented" reader and my over confidence and non-practice for this area definitely hurt. Suggestions... practice from MCAT reading comprehension passages because Topscore/etc. are FAR too "find this fact" search and destroy conducive.

OChem/Chem: The basics are very basics and there were... essentially 1 or two weird ones each section. Not really anything Tricky--definitely nothing that you can't rule out. Destroyer all the way.

Day of test:
Excedrin Migraine with caffeine. I slept ~3 hours before the test, and needed this. I might recommend testing melatonin to prevent this problem, but I did not test it out enough to feel safe taking it the night before.


Now:
We are applying to multiple schools to increase our chances of getting in together, also I am an URM-although I'm not sure if that really helps.
 
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Scores:
PA 21
QR 20
RC 21
Biology 22
O Chem 25
Chem 25
Total Science 23
AA 23 (99.7)

This breakdown is a conversational ramble. If you have specific questions feel free to PM me.

Background: I basically studied math for 1-2 hours a day for 2 weeks while my soon to be fiance studied (he got a 24), and then 13 hours a day for 11 days (with my dad cooking, running to walmart, etc. for me). Paying attention to class was ESSENTIAL to doing well on this and really saved me because I knew pretty much everything I studied, I just had to review it a little. I am also a tutor so the semi-constant reviewing of biology/o chem definitely helped my info retention.


Things that I did that wasted my time:
-MAINLY: I did not have a plan. I spent time doing things that in retrospect, were a waste. I would make a list of what you want to buy, when you are going to do it, and don't stray.
-I made too many Anki cards. Making them helped me to remember- I guess? but I never went through any stack fully once I made it. This is a good tool though.
-I tried to research every random bio fact that I missed on topscore- MAJOR WASTE. P.S. Be careful what you deem a waste.
-I did not order the 2009 sample test FAST ENOUGH. This test is still VERY relevant IMO (I'm not sure they took those questions out of the test bank / ) order it.

Final/most useful study techniques and tips:
Post it note/walmart see through sticky tabs. Mark every question that you miss as you miss them. Writing them down to the side is inconvenient. Working through a whole test then going back to correct temporarily reinforces bad processes/thoughts-- so instead I write down 10 answers somewhere on my writing board and check directly after I work each one.
*Buy a writing board with a thin dry erase pen to imitate the testing environment.
*Try not to take naps in the day until After your test would be done.
*If you only have two weeks, avoid facebook, avoid laying in bed before you are about to pass out, etc. that waste time.
*PRACTICE rounding/doing math on your board when doing math problems so that you get faster.

PAT:
Starting point: 21 topscore/19ish on CDP
Day before test: 22 on CDP
Total tests taken: 4
Accuracy of tests: very accurate. I was always getting 14-15s/15 on some sections, and then randomly bombing either angles, TFE, or cube counting....
Advice: Develop your OWN methods if nothing works. I used 4x4 for pattern folding, a table for cube counting (with Only the numbers they ask for). I didn't score the best on this though.

Biology:
Hit or miss. There were ~5 questions that I knew I was guessing on--they weren't TERRIBLY random...but a couple were definitely more in depth than barrons/Cliffs. I did not have time to do destroyer/achiever/etc. anything beyond AP bio flashcards/browsing through AP bio books.

QR: Time was a huge issue for me. I started off very weak (had to learn the trig formulas, log stuff, ln stuff) in this area and did not have much time to improve. I would recommend skipping the hard ones and doing the easy ones if you struggle with this. Achiever is ridiculous, a waste of time, don't do it. Math Destroyer was awesome-- one thing that it didn't cover was P values .

RC: was a lot harder than I thought it would be. I am a naturally "talented" reader and my over confidence and non-practice for this area definitely hurt. Suggestions... practice from MCAT reading comprehension passages because Topscore/etc. are FAR too "find this fact" search and destroy conducive.

OChem/Chem: The basics are very basics and there were... essentially 1 or two weird ones each section. Not really anything Tricky--definitely nothing that you can't rule out. Destroyer all the way.

Day of test:
Excedrin Migraine with caffeine. I slept ~3 hours before the test, and needed this. I might recommend testing melatonin to prevent this problem, but I did not test it out enough to feel safe taking it the night before.


Now:
We are applying to multiple schools to increase our chances of getting in together, also I am an URM-although I'm not sure if that really helps.

Where and how can we find the sample 2009 ada test?
Anything else you recommend for RC?
thanks
 
and I thought I did well 🙁


congrats, you deserve it. Gluck with your applications!
 
Thanks guys and gals!

BTW- I've answered like 10 PM questions, I definitely don't mind answering questions even if you feel they are silly! Don't make this test unnecessarily stressful!

And yes, from what I gather my test was "hard" in some area which is why my percentile was 99.7.... I don't really know what to think as far as competitiveness goes/how schools will choose to interpret all of that or if it will help me look more like a magic "24".
 
I also got a 23 AA, 99.7 percentile. Our scores are almost mirror images. Since the schools dont see the percentiles, we get screwed. I think thats garbage. I see no reason why the percentiles can't be reported as well so people like us get a fair deal.
 
I also got a 23 AA, 99.7 percentile. Our scores are almost mirror images. Since the schools dont see the percentiles, we get screwed. I think thats garbage. I see no reason why the percentiles can't be reported as well so people like us get a fair deal.

Im faxing my score sheet directly to my primary school of interest as soon as I can, then they will see my percentiles... unless I get an easy test and my percentiles are lower lol. All kidding aside I agree, I really wish it was more based on percentiles, as its a more fair assessment
 
Im faxing my score sheet directly to my primary school of interest as soon as I can, then they will see my percentiles... unless I get an easy test and my percentiles are lower lol. All kidding aside I agree, I really wish it was more based on percentiles, as its a more fair assessment
Not sure if the score sheet you fax them will be included in the file they review for acceptance. Every student has to be evaluated equally. And admissions will know that a 23 is 98%+.
 
I also got a 23 AA, 99.7 percentile. Our scores are almost mirror images. Since the schools dont see the percentiles, we get screwed. I think thats garbage. I see no reason why the percentiles can't be reported as well so people like us get a fair deal.
??? How so? Or are you just complaining to be funny?
 
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