DAT Done 8/4/10 !!

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First of all, I want to thank this message board for all the help they give, as well as all the questions posted, really helps you know where you're at!

Scores:

PAT - 22 - 93.8%
QR - 16 - 65.3% :meanie: - could care less, I hate math with a passion
RC - 21 - 88.9%
Bio - 19 - 83.5%
GC - 22 - 95.2%
OC - 25 - 98.4%
TS - 21 - 96.2%
AA - 21 - 97.2%

Since everybody else posts what they thought about each question and what resources they used, I'll do the same except for QR, nobody wants to know, haha

PAT - CDP 5 test edition, as well as some questions I bought off ebay for 8$ or so. I thought CDP was very representative of the PAT section, and actually the whole CD series is spot on for layout of the DAT including color, etc. Keyholes weren't too bad, thought they were kind of easy except for 1 or 2, TFE had a mix of hard ones (CDP test 4) and easy ones, angles were actually pretty easy...could usually knock it down to two answer choices just finding which is the biggest/smallest, unlike CDP where that sometimes doesn't work at all. Hole punching was pretty dang easy, had one problem with a crazy fold on it, but other than that they were easier than CDP, cube counting again was easier than CDP just because there were fewer cubes, they also through in "blanks" in the middle of the figures as well...just where there wasnt any cube, so you had to be able to visually realize that. Pattern folding was a joke, even the dice were easy, or maybe I was just on today.

QR - Don't care, I had Math Destroyer, but nothing stuck. I'm just bad at math.

RC - All science related, one was telomeres, one was gene therapy, can't remember the last one, and - didn't get piano passage, thank god...actually took a deep breath before I went on to the third passage. Only resource I used for this was TopScore, which was great for the factual questions. I got a 25 yesterday, and easily could've done better than that, but what I wasn't used to was the tone questions and inference questions, but they seemed to be pretty logical/easy as long as you read the passage. Started to run out of time for the 3rd passage, only had 17 minutes left or so once I finished the third, so I didn't read it nearly as thoroughly, don't know if that's where I started getting points taken off. I think for this section it'd be best to get Achiever just for the tone/inference questions so you don't get surprised come test day. Luckily, I'm a pretty good reader (eng 1st language)

Bio - Cliffs, Alan's notes, and Thinkwell videos (plants, molecular bio, cellular respiration, photosynthesis). Thinkwell videos were great, but honestly the Bio section was a lot of random crap, just like everybody said and I was expecting that coming in, so I'm satisfied with a 19, even though I really enjoy Biology. No taxonomy question, no plants, a LOT of genetics questions regarding calculating how many progeny will have so and so disease, or stuff like that (TopScore has plenty of those). Don't worry too much about Bio, just read Cliffs and supplement with Thinkwell if you don't understand something/weren't taught something.

GC - Chad's the coolest dude out there for revamping your freshman chemistry knowledge, and for me it was 2 years ago, so I was in need of a refresher, and he more than delivered. Questions were very basic, mostly conceptual, and I only had a few calculations, which I know I missed a couple because I flatout guessed because my numbers weren't ever matching an answer 😕 . Had destroyer, and didn't do all of the gchem, just because it was boring and I didn't care so much about the calculations, was hoping on the fact I got a conceptual version, and luckily I did!

OC - Chad was pretty good at making organic seem basic. Also helps that my OChem professor is a beast, and I learned it the first time (finished up this past semester). Used all of Destroyer OChem, which was pretty good, definitely overkill for the DAT, especially the reactions were VERY basic, but it's definitely good to know Destroyer OChem front to back. Had one NMR and one IR I believe, and they were no brainers - the rest was just concepts and reactions, and a basic understanding of SN1/SN2/E1/E2, but didn't actually have any reactions directly involving them.

I also had a mistake on my OC section, was asking for the most stable newman projection of a certain compound, and NONE of them even had the right number of carbons...maybe I'll get another point when they audit it 🙄.

Glad it's over, and I'm not going to take that crap again, this summer was miserable. The DAT turned my world upside down, was sick twice and on antibiotics, was dizzy for about 2 weeks straight, and our oldest dog had to be put to sleep (RIP Brandy!!), but all in all I'm just glad it's over, and I hope everybody else here has a better/easier experience getting ready for this thing than I did!

P.S. Don't care to hear what you have to say about my QR score, I could really care less. :luck:
 
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Man, don't worry about QR lol. Your scores, I would kill for. You will have no trouble, go relax and chill until you get all those interview invites!
 
Great Job!
Can you tell me how you did on your topscore tests and how it compared? My DAT is on Sat!
Thanks!
 
Congrats Baylor2011... Nice scores...


I am hoping to be able to post something like in couple of weeks when I take my DAT...

Good Luck with Interviews..
 
As far as TopScore, I did it somewhat unconventional

First time, I didn't click "Natural Sciences", and did it by section, and well 27 minutes isn't enough time for me for the chemistries, and 30 something minutes for Bio is too long, so I won't post those... Didn't do PAT, and only did one QR

TopScore 1 QR: 16 - I guess it's pretty similar, since that's what I got? Haha..idk

TopScore 2: Bio: 19 Chem: 19 OChem: 19 RC: 25
TopScore 3: Bio: 18 Chem: 19 OChem: 18

That's all I did from TopScore

I'd say the Bio section is pretty similar...very random. Chemistries are MUCH easier, even the calculations which I probably botched in GChem were MUCH easier. Don't stress about the chemistries 🙂
 
Lol. Based on what you wrote I know I had the same test as you. I also hated the quantitative reasoning section of that test. Great scores overall though! Congrats!
 
Great Score, I wish I did as well as you in PAT and OCHEM.

What is Chad that you are referring to ?

Thanks
 
Great Score, I wish I did as well as you in PAT and OCHEM.

What is Chad that you are referring to ?

Thanks

www. course saver . com (remove the spaces)

He has videos going over the chemistry sections for $20 a month. Everyone here uses them.
 
Took mine 8/4/10. Definitely had the same OC section as you as i remember the newman projection question with the incorrect number of carbons.
 
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I also had that newman projection. I reported it at the testing center. I'm curious if you've had any follow up from that? Did you contact the ADA at all, or did they contact you?
 
I had thought about contacting the ADA about it but I just let it be thinking they'd see it when they audited my test, didn't want to cause any more delays in the schools getting my test scores. I also have not heard anything from them regarding that question either
 
I'm taking it on 9/4 (so in 16 days) and am beginning to freak out!!

I ordered the DAT destroyer which is coming tomr and plan on doing all the problems at least 2x. I'm going to get Top score too and take those three tests + 2 Kaplan course tests over the weekend as well as the week before my test.

Should I order Chad's videos as well? I feel like the more ochem I learn, the more I forget! :idea:
 
I just took the DAT today and I had that OC newman projection question too... It was frustrating to say the least, I dying to know what they come up with in the audit...
 
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first of all, i want to thank this message board for all the help they give, as well as all the questions posted, really helps you know where you're at!

Scores:

Pat - 22 - 93.8%
qr - 16 - 65.3% :meanie: - could care less, i hate math with a passion
rc - 21 - 88.9%
bio - 19 - 83.5%
gc - 22 - 95.2%
oc - 25 - 98.4%
ts - 21 - 96.2%
aa - 21 - 97.2%
congrats on solid score.
Hey do you have any tips for angles and tfe? Please help me dude.
Thanks in advance.very funny about what said regarding qr.


Since everybody else posts what they thought about each question and what resources they used, i'll do the same except for qr, nobody wants to know, haha

pat - cdp 5 test edition, as well as some questions i bought off ebay for 8$ or so. I thought cdp was very representative of the pat section, and actually the whole cd series is spot on for layout of the dat including color, etc. Keyholes weren't too bad, thought they were kind of easy except for 1 or 2, tfe had a mix of hard ones (cdp test 4) and easy ones, angles were actually pretty easy...could usually knock it down to two answer choices just finding which is the biggest/smallest, unlike cdp where that sometimes doesn't work at all. Hole punching was pretty dang easy, had one problem with a crazy fold on it, but other than that they were easier than cdp, cube counting again was easier than cdp just because there were fewer cubes, they also through in "blanks" in the middle of the figures as well...just where there wasnt any cube, so you had to be able to visually realize that. Pattern folding was a joke, even the dice were easy, or maybe i was just on today.

qr - don't care, i had math destroyer, but nothing stuck. I'm just bad at math.

rc - all science related, one was telomeres, one was gene therapy, can't remember the last one, and - didn't get piano passage, thank god...actually took a deep breath before i went on to the third passage. Only resource i used for this was topscore, which was great for the factual questions. I got a 25 yesterday, and easily could've done better than that, but what i wasn't used to was the tone questions and inference questions, but they seemed to be pretty logical/easy as long as you read the passage. Started to run out of time for the 3rd passage, only had 17 minutes left or so once i finished the third, so i didn't read it nearly as thoroughly, don't know if that's where i started getting points taken off. I think for this section it'd be best to get achiever just for the tone/inference questions so you don't get surprised come test day. Luckily, i'm a pretty good reader (eng 1st language)

bio - cliffs, alan's notes, and thinkwell videos (plants, molecular bio, cellular respiration, photosynthesis). Thinkwell videos were great, but honestly the bio section was a lot of random crap, just like everybody said and i was expecting that coming in, so i'm satisfied with a 19, even though i really enjoy biology. No taxonomy question, no plants, a lot of genetics questions regarding calculating how many progeny will have so and so disease, or stuff like that (topscore has plenty of those). Don't worry too much about bio, just read cliffs and supplement with thinkwell if you don't understand something/weren't taught something.

gc - chad's the coolest dude out there for revamping your freshman chemistry knowledge, and for me it was 2 years ago, so i was in need of a refresher, and he more than delivered. Questions were very basic, mostly conceptual, and i only had a few calculations, which i know i missed a couple because i flatout guessed because my numbers weren't ever matching an answer 😕 . Had destroyer, and didn't do all of the gchem, just because it was boring and i didn't care so much about the calculations, was hoping on the fact i got a conceptual version, and luckily i did!

oc - chad was pretty good at making organic seem basic. Also helps that my ochem professor is a beast, and i learned it the first time (finished up this past semester). Used all of destroyer ochem, which was pretty good, definitely overkill for the dat, especially the reactions were very basic, but it's definitely good to know destroyer ochem front to back. Had one nmr and one ir i believe, and they were no brainers - the rest was just concepts and reactions, and a basic understanding of sn1/sn2/e1/e2, but didn't actually have any reactions directly involving them.

I also had a mistake on my oc section, was asking for the most stable newman projection of a certain compound, and none of them even had the right number of carbons...maybe i'll get another point when they audit it 🙄.

Glad it's over, and i'm not going to take that crap again, this summer was miserable. The dat turned my world upside down, was sick twice and on antibiotics, was dizzy for about 2 weeks straight, and our oldest dog had to be put to sleep (rip brandy!!), but all in all i'm just glad it's over, and i hope everybody else here has a better/easier experience getting ready for this thing than i did!

P.s. Don't care to hear what you have to say about my qr score, i could really care less. :luck:
 
Hey Baylor
Congrats dude... Iam in TX too. I was wondering if you have any tip for angles. keyholes and reading section. Please help dude. Thanks dude🙂
 
First of all, I want to thank this message board for all the help they give, as well as all the questions posted, really helps you know where you're at!

Scores:

PAT - 22 - 93.8%
QR - 16 - 65.3% :meanie: - could care less, I hate math with a passion
RC - 21 - 88.9%
Bio - 19 - 83.5%
GC - 22 - 95.2%
OC - 25 - 98.4%
TS - 21 - 96.2%
AA - 21 - 97.2%

Since everybody else posts what they thought about each question and what resources they used, I'll do the same except for QR, nobody wants to know, haha

PAT - CDP 5 test edition, as well as some questions I bought off ebay for 8$ or so. I thought CDP was very representative of the PAT section, and actually the whole CD series is spot on for layout of the DAT including color, etc. Keyholes weren't too bad, thought they were kind of easy except for 1 or 2, TFE had a mix of hard ones (CDP test 4) and easy ones, angles were actually pretty easy...could usually knock it down to two answer choices just finding which is the biggest/smallest, unlike CDP where that sometimes doesn't work at all. Hole punching was pretty dang easy, had one problem with a crazy fold on it, but other than that they were easier than CDP, cube counting again was easier than CDP just because there were fewer cubes, they also through in "blanks" in the middle of the figures as well...just where there wasnt any cube, so you had to be able to visually realize that. Pattern folding was a joke, even the dice were easy, or maybe I was just on today.

QR - Don't care, I had Math Destroyer, but nothing stuck. I'm just bad at math.

RC - All science related, one was telomeres, one was gene therapy, can't remember the last one, and - didn't get piano passage, thank god...actually took a deep breath before I went on to the third passage. Only resource I used for this was TopScore, which was great for the factual questions. I got a 25 yesterday, and easily could've done better than that, but what I wasn't used to was the tone questions and inference questions, but they seemed to be pretty logical/easy as long as you read the passage. Started to run out of time for the 3rd passage, only had 17 minutes left or so once I finished the third, so I didn't read it nearly as thoroughly, don't know if that's where I started getting points taken off. I think for this section it'd be best to get Achiever just for the tone/inference questions so you don't get surprised come test day. Luckily, I'm a pretty good reader (eng 1st language)

Bio - Cliffs, Alan's notes, and Thinkwell videos (plants, molecular bio, cellular respiration, photosynthesis). Thinkwell videos were great, but honestly the Bio section was a lot of random crap, just like everybody said and I was expecting that coming in, so I'm satisfied with a 19, even though I really enjoy Biology. No taxonomy question, no plants, a LOT of genetics questions regarding calculating how many progeny will have so and so disease, or stuff like that (TopScore has plenty of those). Don't worry too much about Bio, just read Cliffs and supplement with Thinkwell if you don't understand something/weren't taught something.

GC - Chad's the coolest dude out there for revamping your freshman chemistry knowledge, and for me it was 2 years ago, so I was in need of a refresher, and he more than delivered. Questions were very basic, mostly conceptual, and I only had a few calculations, which I know I missed a couple because I flatout guessed because my numbers weren't ever matching an answer 😕 . Had destroyer, and didn't do all of the gchem, just because it was boring and I didn't care so much about the calculations, was hoping on the fact I got a conceptual version, and luckily I did!

OC - Chad was pretty good at making organic seem basic. Also helps that my OChem professor is a beast, and I learned it the first time (finished up this past semester). Used all of Destroyer OChem, which was pretty good, definitely overkill for the DAT, especially the reactions were VERY basic, but it's definitely good to know Destroyer OChem front to back. Had one NMR and one IR I believe, and they were no brainers - the rest was just concepts and reactions, and a basic understanding of SN1/SN2/E1/E2, but didn't actually have any reactions directly involving them.

I also had a mistake on my OC section, was asking for the most stable newman projection of a certain compound, and NONE of them even had the right number of carbons...maybe I'll get another point when they audit it 🙄.

Glad it's over, and I'm not going to take that crap again, this summer was miserable. The DAT turned my world upside down, was sick twice and on antibiotics, was dizzy for about 2 weeks straight, and our oldest dog had to be put to sleep (RIP Brandy!!), but all in all I'm just glad it's over, and I hope everybody else here has a better/easier experience getting ready for this thing than I did!

P.S. Don't care to hear what you have to say about my QR score, I could really care less. :luck:


WOAH. Those scores rock, great job 🙂 This might sound like a really dumb question...but what does "CDP" mean? I'm really new to all of this so I'm trying to get some info. Congrats!!
 
WOAH. Those scores rock, great job 🙂 This might sound like a really dumb question...but what does "CDP" mean? I'm really new to all of this so I'm trying to get some info. Congrats!!

IT's not a dumb question. I'm new on ths website too. It is a program that will help you practice the PAT section of the DAT. It is called crack the DAT PAT. Hopefully, this will help you dude. If you figure out any tips for this section please share it with us. Thanks.🙂
 
IT's not a dumb question. I'm new on ths website too. It is a program that will help you practice the PAT section of the DAT. It is called crack the DAT PAT. Hopefully, this will help you dude. If you figure out any tips for this section please share it with us. Thanks.🙂

Thanks soooo much! I'm planning on taking the DAT sometime this summer (end of July/beg of August) so from the beginning of May until then, I'll be hibernating inside of a library. :scared:
Now that is going to be fun. If I'm ever cool enough to have "tips" to give to other people I'll definitely relay the message here! Thanks again for your help and good luck! 🙂
 
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