DAT Done - 8/9/12

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Well everyone, after all of the sweat, blood, and tears, the DAT came and went just like that. I'm very satisfied with everything EXCEPT RC and PA. The RC was insanely hard, and it's the lowest I've ever received, including all of my practice exams.

I'm really disappointed, as I hear schools value RC heavily in trying to determine whether or not you will succeed in d-school. Perceptual ability was also very hard, but at least I've seen people gain admission with similar scores. I hoped for higher, but oh well. I REALLY don't want to have to take this entire thing again just because of my RC. I need some honest opinions and/or consoling - I never thought I'd do that poorly on the RC.

Anyway, here are the scores. I can post a breakdown later, but right now I'm fuming over RC and don't really feel like thinking about it again, ha. So what do you think, am I screened out from a lot of schools because of this? I don't even know what the "cutoffs" are for RC at schools. My sciences are really good, so I'd be pretty upset if a school just brushed me aside because of one bad score.

PA - 18
QR - 19
RC - 17
Bio - 22
GC - 24
OC - 21

TS - 22
AA - 21





EDIT -- BREAKDOWN.

BIO

I flew through this section. No plants. No ecology. I had one or 2 questions that were a little puzzling that I wasn't sure about. I evidently got them wrong haha. The bio section was either really easy, or my materials prepared me well. I used qVault, cliffs, destroyer, and Alan's notes. The majority of my questions were very straight forward. I almost feel like I over studied for this section.

GC

I was getting 17s in top score, and 19 to 20 on qVault. I feel like this section was very similar to the 2007 sample. Most questions were set up just like it, where instead of doing the calculations, the answers were equations that represented the answer. I feel like if I didn't do destroyer, I would still have been fine. Chads videos prepared me for this section plenty.

OC

Another section that was very straight forward. There were a couple reactions where they asked what the reaction was rather than identify the products. Also know all of your gringard reactions! I had quite a few. Destroyer helped here, but chad laid the foundation for success once again. I owe that man a beer haha.

PAT

I thought I did better to be honest. I felt good at the break, but I think the keyholes probably got me. They were very nit picky. Nearly identical shapes with minute differences.

Top front end was very straight forward. CDP was on par for that section. A lot of structures were similar for the answers, but I was able to rule some of them out just by inconsistencies. This section was most similar to CDP for sure.

For angles, some were plain old gimmes. Where others were ridiculous. You could have told me every angle was the same and I would have believed you. Are 1 degree differences possible, because I feel like some of these were, ha.

Hole punches. OH BOY. Let me make this clear, the real pat will pull out folds you have never seen before. I had many "third folds". I also had one RIDICULOUS fold that was diagonal from the bottom right hole to the far left second hole. If you numbered the holes from 1 to 16, where the first row is 1,2,3,4 and the last row is 13,14,15,16, the diagonal fold was from hole 16 to hole 9 and flipped upwards. I saw it and was like WHAT?!?

For cubes, there were no illusions, just gaps with missing cubes in the center of the structure. Count carefully.

Paper folding wasn't too bad. I had almost no problems with shading. They were mostly complex shapes, which I feel like I'm a little better at than shading. But in the end I'm curious as to what gave me an 18. I felt like I got a 20.

QR

I'm terrible at math, and I thought this section was very straight forward. I know nothing about trig. I think I had like 2 trig questions. The rest were word problems and algebra, and conversions. Be good at conversions. I immediately guessed on the ones I didn't know how to do and got the easy points. There's plenty there. I did SOME of math destroyer, and a couple qVault tests. QVault was right on par in my opinion.

RC

Ugh. I don't have much to say here. I got destroyed. I still don't know what to do. I used search and destroy. If this is your method, I advise against it. If you get passages like I did you will be dead in the water. I never got less than a 18 in all my practice, and most were in the 20s. I don't recommend qVault. It's too easy. This blemish could put me at a great disadvantage, and if I could do it over I would have studied less science, and more PAT and reading. A lot of people don't practice reading a lot, and I was one of them. It cost me big time.

I'm glad to be done but that reading score is going to haunt me for a while.
 
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Took the DAT today as well, how did you do so well on GC?! I thought I was for sure going to retake this test after GC. Don't stress too bad about your RC score, your other scores back it up BIG TIME. You should not be down on yourself whatsoever. I did terrible on QR but I couldn't be any happier being done!
 
You meet the "cutoffs" to most schools (17 is the cutoff). Also, they don't see the percentages so that's a plus. Also look at yours scores like this. (AA/TS/PAT) (21/22/18). You beasted the science sections!! Can't wait for the breakdown as my exam is coming up this Monday.

IMO I wouldn't retake. Your scores are great! Enjoy the rest of your summer.
 
How much Crack PAT did you do? What was your method for RC?
Your science scores rock, they will outshine the RC. Best of luck! and I would not retake!!
 
Don't retake! Your scores are great, especially your sciences. You'll get an interview--I'm sure. Congrats!
 
How much Crack PAT did you do? What was your method for RC?
Your science scores rock, they will outshine the RC. Best of luck! and I would not retake!!

I did 8 tests in CDP and averaged about 21 or 22. Real DAT was definitely harder. I was thinking of writing CDP a letter just to let them know that it seems the real PAT has become a little harder than their material. The general consensus is that you do a few points lower on the real thing. I feel like they should make it a little harder, but not as intense as achiever. Achiever just demoralizes you and makes you unconfident.

My method for RC was search and destroy. I now highly DO NOT recommend this method. I got owned. There were many tone and inference questions, and "the last sentence of this passage should be..." questions. I think I'm just generally bad at RC, which is unfortunate. I feel as though it would have no impression as to how I would do in D-school. Apparently adcoms feel otherwise.
 
No consoling necessary! I think these are above average scores and help to complete the picture of a well rounded applicant. Its so easy to get tugged out of reality when people are posting high scores but those high scores are a small subsection of the total DAT-taking population! Your science scores are superb and you trounced on over 90% of other test takers in multiple sections. As long as you've got other good stats I don't see a reason you wouldn't get invited for interviews. Where are you applying?

Also, there are a few names who kept repeatedly popping up on SDN over this summer and yours was one that I've recognized and its quite a great experience to see you succeed (because I do genuinely see your scores as a success). Best of luck in the future! Keep the community updated on how your process is going!
 
So happy to be finished! I agree that RC was very difficult - I've had trouble figuring out a good method so just went with search and destroy. I never did any CDP, just KBB, DAT Destroyer and DATqvault. BTW, the free 2007 DAT from the ADA is WAY easier than the real thing.

PA:27
QR:23
RC:22
Bio:21
GC:22
OC:22
TS:21
AA:22
 
First post updated with a breakdown.

Question...

I was originally planning on faxing my scores to the schools that accept such a thing, but then they'd see my terrible percentile in RC. Should I just wait for the official report to get to the schools in a couple weeks and "mask" the percentile? Or should I send them to show them that my AA and TS were very high percentiles?

My number 1 is uconn, followed by buffalo, btw.

3.62 BCP
3.68 Cum

Incidentally, I got A's in the three English classes I took in college, including an American literature and Shakespeare class. Haha. Stupid RC section...
 
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Is search and destroy involve skimming first? That's my plan anyway. Did you do Crack reading or any programs to prepare you for RC?
I scored a 21 on my last Crack reading and I hope that's indicative of the real thing.

Anyway I agree with others here. We see a lot of sick scores on SDN and we must not believe that's the norm. You did very well!
 
Anyway I agree with others here. We see a lot of sick scores on SDN and we must not believe that's the norm. You did very well!

Couldn't agree more. As for RC, I practiced reading business and scientific articles. As far as RC tests, I used everything I could get my hands on including CDR and KBB. S&D seemed to be the best method, as mapping became too time consuming in practice.
 
Nice Scores. you should be set, i think these are really competitive scores. Did you use CDR?
 
Nice Scores. you should be set, i think these are really competitive scores. Did you use CDR?

I took the free sample which I thought was easy. In hindsight I should have bought their full package and developed a better method than search and destroy. Some people get passages where search and destroy works well. I took that chance and it didn't pan out. Search and destroy was not possible with my passages.

To anyone that's unsure about RC or is relying on S&D, I highly recommend, at the very least, developing a backup plan that you can fall back on case you get a very dense and tone-based passage. ALL of my passages were like this, so I was pretty much out of luck from the minute I started the RC section.
 
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Hey NDPitch, been thread-stalking you since we both had DAT's planned for August (though mine is later this month). You have great scores, one of them isn't your best, but the others rock and adcoms should realize that 1. either you didn't spend as much time preparing for this section and that's why you didn't score to your potential (as evidenced by the other high scores) and/or 2. you had a ridiculously difficult few passages, just the luck of the draw. Keep your head up, be grateful you're done, and honestly 17 isn't bad- I personally wouldn't suggest a retake because, could you reproduce those scores? Just something to consider. Good luck with applications!!!!
 
I just wanted to update this thread for people that are fearing a low score on a section, like I had. My 17 in RC has not held me back - so all of the stress was for not!

So far, I've received interviews to...

NOVA
NYU
UConn
BU
Detroit Mercy
Tufts
Maryland
Buffalo

I did apply to a TON of schools, though (24!). I probably over-applied, but that's okay. It's all about maximizing your chances - because the end goal is to get into dental school. So, be sure to cover your bases and in the end you can be just fine in terms of interviews, even with a "so-so" score in a section that schools weigh as "very important".

Good luck to everyone currently studying!
 
Wow Congrats! All pre-december? Best of luck, you should be just fine!
 
Thought about this thread the other day. Reminiscing about the whole DAT process and stressing about getting in and all that. Just figured I’d do the final update.
I ended up graduating #3 in my class. The reading comprehension section as a predictor for success in dental school is false! But I’m so out of touch with the process now, and I don’t even know if the DAT is still the same as when I took it.
 
Thanks for the update and congratulations on achieving your ultimate goal.. DAT has same subjects, math changed a few years back, no trig and added quantitative comparison problems, Bio has more BioChem. The DAT has gotten harder since 2012 as well as the competition to get into dental school,

Wishing you the best...

Nancy, co/owner, DAT Destroyer
 
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