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*Accidentally posted this in the pre-dental forum. Oops! This is what happens when I try to use my phone for this >.<*

I love you guys 🙂! Like many have said before, I think that this forum was probably the most invaluable (and cheapest =P) resource when it comes to studying for the DAT. I feel that unlike with other standardized tests, when it comes to DAT prep, there is not comprehensive review except for Kaplan, which is a good basis...but...

It was definitely helpful getting information one what to use for what sections - I didn't even know who Chad was until I came on here (& he definitely showed me the path to the magical world of making OC much more manageable)!

I will do a breakdown if anyone wants it, but for now I'll post up some stats and update (again) later. I currently only have until Monday to (1) enjoy my break, (2) get all my school stuff straightened out, and (3) SLEEP <-- bahaha like that's going to happen. I already have reading assignments.

PAT: 22
QR: 21 =/.
RC: 22
Bio: 25
GC: 21 =/
OC: 23
TS: 23
AA: 22

I wish I knew how to do the dancing emoticon thing ~

Thanks guys!
 
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Congrats! You killed it! Go enjoy your remaining days of freedom before the grind picks up again, you earned it.
 
i fail to understand the point of this whole percentile thing.

my AA was a point below yours, yet my percentile is 97.2. we got identical QR scores, my percentile: 97.6.

yes thread hijack because we took the dat the same week. that makes us, like, siblings or something.
 
Great looking scores, I knew you could do it-and in three weeks as well! Feels amazing to be done huh? I go back to school Monday too, been sleeping for the past 4 days haha! Congrats you earned it!
 
Sorry for the super late reply 0.o

Congrats! You killed it! Go enjoy your remaining days of freedom before the grind picks up again, you earned it.
Thanks! My freedom unfortunately included a 30.5 hour stay at the airport -_-

i fail to understand the point of this whole percentile thing.

my AA was a point below yours, yet my percentile is 97.2. we got identical QR scores, my percentile: 97.6.

yes thread hijack because we took the dat the same week. that makes us, like, siblings or something.

I honestly don't know the point of percentiles or how they even work - you'd think that they'd show the percentiles to dental schools since the DAT tests aren't the same ones for every applicant in each cycle?

Great looking scores, I knew you could do it-and in three weeks as well! Feels amazing to be done huh? I go back to school Monday too, been sleeping for the past 4 days haha! Congrats you earned it!

Thanks! You did even better though! Still in awe haha
 
I honestly don't know the point of percentiles or how they even work - you'd think that they'd show the percentiles to dental schools since the DAT tests aren't the same ones for every applicant in each cycle?

The percentile is measured specific to the version of the DAT that you took. For example, if you got a 21 AA and that gave you a 95th percentile, you did better than 95% of the rest of the people that took the same exam. 5% did better than you (they scored higher than a 21). These numbers would be completely different for another exam because each test has different questions and different test takers. Hope that makes sense.

As far as not showing the percentiles, I think at one time they were shown. I'm not sure why they were removed though. Showing the percentiles might have made the test "less standardized" than it should be for adcoms. Perhaps because the same scores are often in different percentiles? Just guessing.
 
I'd think that showing the percentiles would make more sense because it'd be unfair for someone to have like a 23AA and be in the 98th percentile and someone to have 30AA and be in the 90th percentile (not that such extremes would occur) - but clearly the 23AA had a harder version, but they won't know that and take the 30AA to be the better candidate =/
 
It only gets harder.... I just passed NDBE Part 2 (last big exam before you graduate dental school) and the number of textbooks they pull from is ridiculous (see below for a comparison). The interesting thing is you still end up putting about the same time in as you would for the DAT, but the test is graded on a huge curve. You no longer get a score unless you fail, but the rumors I hear back are crazy. You can pass the exam by getting a little over 50% right if you get a hard exam, or like a guy I just heard of yesterday failed with 79% right because it was an easy exam, the curve actually took him down into a fail. It makes preparing a nightmare, evaluating your performance impossible and yet you manage to make it through.

The list:
DENTAL ADMISSION TEST REFERENCE TEXT LIST

Biology
Campbell and Reece, Biology, 8th Ed., Benjamin Cummings.
Raven, Johnson et al., Biology, 8th Ed., McGraw Hill.

Chemistry (General and Organic)
Brown, LeMay et al., Chemistry: The Central Science, 10th Ed., Prentice Hall.
Coghill and Garson, Eds., The ACS Style Guide: Effective Communication of Scientific Information, 3rd Ed., Oxford University Press.
Ege, Organic Chemistry: Structure and Reactivity, 5th Ed., Houghton Mifflin.
Masterton and Hurley, Chemistry: Principles and Reactions, 5th Ed., Brooks Cole.
McMurry and Fay, Chemistry, 5th Ed., Prentice Hall.
McMurry, Organic Chemistry, 7th Ed., Brooks Cole.
Pavia, Lampman, and Kriz, Introduction to Spectroscopy, 3rd Ed., Brooks Cole.
Silberberg, Chemistry: The Molecular Nature of Matter and Change; 5th Ed., McGraw Hill.

QRT
Bluman, Elementary Statistics: A Step By Step Approach, 6th Ed., McGraw Hill.
Stewart, Calculus: Early Transcendentals, 6th Ed., Brooks Cole.
Swokowski and Cole, Precalculus: Functions and Graphs, 10th Ed., Brooks Cole.



National Board Part I Dental Reference Texts

National Board test items are not based on specific textbooks. Test construction committees that develop Part I examinations use, as reference, the latest editions of the following textbooks.

Anatomic Sciences Agur, Grant's Atlas of Anatomy, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Avery and Steele, Oral Development and Histology, Thieme Gartner and Hiatt, Color Atlas of Histology, Mosby Kiernan, Barr's The Human Nervous System, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Moore, Clinically Oriented Anatomy, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Moore and Agur, Essential Clinical Anatomy, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins Moore and Persaud, The Developing Human, Saunders Stevens and Lowe, Human Histology, Mosby Nanci, Ten Cate's Oral Histology, Elsevier Health Sciences

Biochemistry-Physiology Berne et al., Physiology, Mosby Devlin, Textbook of Biochemistry with Clinical Correlations, Wiley Medical Guyton and Hall, Textbook of Medical Physiology, Saunders Lehninger, Principles of Biochemistry, Worth Meisenberg, Principles of Medical Biochemistry, Mosby Stryer, Biochemistry, Freeman Vander and Luciano, Human Physiology, McGraw Hill

Microbiology-Pathology Brooks, Medical Microbiology, Appleton Robbins and Cotran, Pathological Basis of Disease,7th Ed., Saunders Janeway and Travers, Immunobiology, Garland Murray et al., Medical Microbiology Mosby Robbins, Cotran, and Kumar, Robbin's Basic Pathology, 7th Ed., Elsevier Health Sciences Slotts and Taubman, Contemporary Oral Microbiology and Immunology, Mosby

Dental Anatomy and Occlusion Ash and Nelson, Wheeler's Dental Anatomy and Occlusion, Saunders Fuller and Denehy, Concise Dental Anatomy and Morphology, Yearbook Medical Okeson, Management of Temporomandibular Disorders and Occlusion, Mosby

Testlet Costanzo, Physiology 3rd Ed., Lippincott Williams & Wilkins

Lucas, Dental Functional Morphology: How Teeth Work, Cambridge Press

Murray, Pfaller, et al., Medical Microbiology, 5th Ed., Mosby

Ozak and Sokol, Dental Ethics at Chairside, Georgetown Univ. Press

Pickett and Gurenlian, The Medical History, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins

Runge and Greganti, Netter's Internal Medicine, Icon Learning Systems

Scheid and Woelfel, Dental Anatomy: Its Relevance to Dentistry, 6th Ed., Lippincott

Williams & Wilkins

Seifert et al., Concepts in Medical Physiology, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins


National Board Part II Reference Texts

National board test terms are not based on specific textbooks. Test construction committees that develop the Part II examinations use, as reference, the latest editions of the following textbooks:

Endodontics American Association of Endodontists, Glossary of Endodontic Terms, 7th Ed. AAE

Bender and Seltzer, The Dental Pulp - Biologic Considerations in Dental Procedures, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.

Cohen and Burns, Pathways of the Pulp, Mosby. Grossman, Oliet, and DelRio, Endodontic Practice, Lea and Febiger. Gutmann and Harrison, Surgical Endodontics, Blackwell Scientific Publications. Ingle and Taintor, Endodontics. Lea and Febiger. Trowbridge and Emling, Inflammation: A Review of the Process, Quintessence. Walton and Torabinejad, Principles and Practice of Endodontics, Saunders. Weine, Endodontic Therapy, Mosby.

Dental Materials Craig, O'Brien, and Powers, Dental Materials: Properties and Manipulation, Mosby Craig, Restorative Dental Materials, Mosby Dentists' Desk Reference: Materials, Instruments, and Equipment Council on Dental Materials, Instruments and Equipment, American Dental Association. Leinfelder and Lemons, Clinical Restorative Materials and Techniques, Lea and Febiger. McCabe, Anderson's Applied Dental Materials, Blackwell Scientific Publications. Phillips, Science of Dental Materials, Saunders.

Operative Dentistry Albers, Tooth Colored Restoratives, Alto Books. Baum, Phillips, and Lund, Textbook of Operative Dentistry, Saunders Charbeneau et al., Principles and Practice of Operative Dentistry. Lea and Febiger. Evans and Wetz, Atlas of Operative Dentistry Preclinical and Clinical Procedures, Quintessence. Gilmore et al., Operative Dentistry. Mosby. Sturdevant et al., The Art and Science of Operative Dentistry, Mosby. Goldman et al., Current Therapy in Dentistry, Mosby. Marzouk, Simonton, et al., Operative Dentistry: Modern Theory and Practice, Ishiyaku EuroAmerica.

Oral And Maxillofacial Surgery/Pain Control Allen, Dental Anesthesia and Analgesia, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins. Hooley and Whitacre, A Self Instructional Guide to Oral Surgery, Books 1-9. Stoma Press. Little and Falace, Dental Management of Medically Compromised Patients, Mosby. Malamed, Handbook of Local Anesthesia, Mosby. Malamed, Handbook of Medical Emergencies in Dental Office, Mosby. Malamed, Sedation: A Guide to Patient Management, Mosby. Peterson et al, Contemporary Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, Mosby. Topazian and Goldberg, Oral and Maxillofacial Infections, Saunders.

Oral Diagnosis (Oral Pathology, Oral Radiology) Cawson and Eveson, Oral Pathology and Diagnosis, Saunders. Eversole, Clinical Outline of Oral Pathology, Lea and Febiger. Pindborg, Atlas of Diseases of the Oral Mucosa, Saunders. Pindborg. Pathology of the Dental Hard Tissues, Saunders. Rubin and Farber, Pathology, Lippincott Company, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins. Shafer, Hine, and Levy, A Textbook of Oral Pathology, Saunders. Smith, Turner, and Robbins, Atlas of Oral Pathology, Mosby. Gibilisco, Stafne's Oral Roentgenographic Diagnosis, Saunders. Goaz and White, Oral Radiology: Principles and Interpretation, Mosby. Kasle, An Atlas of Dental Radiographic Anatomy, Saunders. Langlais and Kasle, Exercises in Radiographic Interpretation, Saunders. Mettler and Moseby, Medical Effects of Ionizing Radiation, Grune and Stratton.

Orthodontics Enlow, Handbook of Facial Growth, Saunders. Graber, Orthodontics Principles and Practice, Saunders. Graber and Neumann, Removable Orthodontic Appliances, Saunders. Moyers, Handbook of Orthodontics, Year Book Medical Publishers. Proffit et al., Contemporary Orthodontics, Mosby. Vander Linder, Development of the Dentition, Quintessence. Vander Linder, Facial Growth and Facial Orthopedics, Quintessence.

Pediatric Dentistry/Behavioral Science Andreasen, Traumatic Injuries to the Teeth and Supporting Structures, Mosby. Braham and Morris, Textbook of Pediatric Dentistry, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins. Davis, Law, and Lewis, An Atlas of Pedodontics, Saunders. Finn and Sidney, Clinical Pedodontics, Saunders. Forrester, Pediatric Dental Medicine, Lea and Febiger. McDonald and Avery, Dentistry for the Child and Adolescent, Mosby. Stewart et al., Pediatric Dentistry, Mosby. Wei, Pediatric Dentistry-Total Patient Care, Lea and Febiger. Wright, Behavior Management in Dentistry for Children, Saunders.

Patient Management (Dental Public Health and Occupational Safety, Behavioral Science) Abrams and Chambers, Dental Communication, Appleton-Centry-Croft. Weinstein, Milgrom, and Getz, Oral Self Care: Strategies for Preventive Dentistry, University of Washington, Continuing Dental Education. Burt and Eklund, Dentistry, Dental Practice and the Community, Saunders. Jong, Community Dental Health, Mosby. Weintraub, Douglass, and Gillings, Biostats: Data Analysis for Dental Health Care Professionals. Cavco. Harris and Christen, Primary Preventive Dentistry, Appleton and Lange. Wright, Tough Questions, Great Answers. Quintessence.

Periodontics Annals of Periodontology, 1996 World Workshop in Periodontics. Grant, Stern, and Listgarten, Periodontics in the Tradition of Orban and Gottlieb, Mosby. Newman, Carranza, et al., Clinical Periodontology, Elsevier Health Sciences. Nield-Gehrig and Houseman, Fundamentals of Periodontal Instrumentation, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins. Fedi, et al., Periodontics Syllabus, Lippincott Williams and Wilkins. Genco, Goldman, et al., Contemporary Periodontics, Mosby.

Pharmacology Craig and Stitzel, Modern Pharmacology, Little, Brown and Company. Gage and Pickett, Mosby's Dental Drug Reference, Elsevier Mosby.

Gangarose, Ciarlone, and Jeske, Pharmacotherapeutics in Dentistry, Medical College of Georgia. Goodman and Gilman, The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics, MacMillan Goth, Medical Pharmacology. C.V. Mosby. Levine, Pharmacology: Drug Actions and Reactions, Little, Brown and Company.

Melman and Morelli, Clinical Pharmacology, Shinn and Shrewsbury, Evaluations of Drug Interaction. Mosby.

Wynn, Meiller, Crossley, Drug Information Handbook for Dentistry, Lexi-Comp.

Yagiela, Dowd, and Neidle, Pharmacology and Therapeutics for Dentistry, 5th Edition, Elsevier Health Sciences

Prosthodontics Baker and Goodking, Theory and Practice of Precision Attachment Removable Partial Dentures. C.V. Mosby. Boucher, et al., Prosthodontics Treatment of Edentulous Patients. C.V. Mosby. Boucher and Renner, Treatment of Partially Edentulous Patients. C.V. Mosby. Brånemark, Chien, Gröndahl, and Robinson (Eds.), The Osseointegration Book, Quintessence. Craig, Restorative Dental Materials. Mosby. Goodacre, Fixed Partial Dentures. Mosby. Heartwell and Rahn, Syllabus of Complete Dentures. Lea Febiger Henderson, et al., McCracken's Removable Partial Prosthodontics. C.V. Mosby. Johnson and Stratton, Fundamentals of Removable Prosthodontics. Quintessence. Krol, Removable Partial Denture Design-Outline Syllabus. Laney and Gibilisco, Diagnosis and Treatment in Prosthodontics. Lea Febiger McLean, Dental Porcelain. Quintessence. Miller and Grasso, Removable Partial Prosthodontics. Williams and Wilkins. Moore, Clinically Oriented Anatomy. Williams and Wilkins. Preiskel, Precision Attachments in Dentistry. C.V. Mosby.

Rosenstiel, Land, and Fujimoto, Contemporary Fixed Prosthodontics. Mosby. Shillingburg, et al., Fundamentals of Fixed Prosthodontics. Quintessence. Tylman, Theory and Practice of Fixed Prosthodontics. Malone-Mosby.
 
when I took NBDE II, it was scored based. We actually received a numerical number for the total exam and each subsection.
If a person passes, even with a 76, there is no retakes.
 
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