DAT done...what a nightmare!

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UnimaasMED

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I took the DAT today and I really don't know if I can be happy or not. Here is what I got:
PAT 18
BIO 18
Orgo 23
Gcem 22
QR 17
RC 15 🙁
TS 21
AA 19

I am very happy about my Overall science section but I am terrified about the RC. I suck at reading I was not expecting a high score there but I got pianod on top😡 This is not fair. I have worked so hard and I don't know if I make it in because of the stupid RC. I don't want to retake anymore.
The RC section was a nightmare. Search and destroy didn't work at all. It screwed me up. I was so nervous I felt like I was being chocked. I started sweating and was shaking. I didn't want to keep going anymore and I could not get my mind straight for QR. Ahh what a nightmare.
What am I gonna do now with that crappy RC score. Is there a chance that schools will overlook that score?😳
 
Yikes, I know how you feel. The good thing is this...you can retake the test and practice that section. I know you don't want to, neither do I (on my 2nd one this Sunday)...but if you're like me and you will not stop anywhere short of becoming a dentist...you CANNOT give up. Giving up is for losers, pull your head up. Again, I know how you feel...it sucks terribly! Just be persistent and don't give up...if you need any advice we'll be here for you. I wish I could tell you they would overlook the RC score, but I've heard that's the most important of all. I got that same RC section on my test, Cell communication, Aspirin, and Piano...right??? I made a 17...I was sooooooooooo upset! Oh well, just got to keep pushing!
 
This was my second time taking it. I improved my scores in all sections but RC. I have been in United states over 1 and half years now. If they expect me to score decent on this section and throw a piano passage at me well than screw them because thats not gonna happen. 😡
 
It appears as though most people get pianoed on their second attempt at DAT. This is the reason why I refrained from retaking DAT even though my DAT is not stellar (AA:19). But since I have no interviews in this cycle, I would have no choice but to retake it. What would you recommend to do to prepare for this?
 
It appears as though most people get pianoed on their second attempt at DAT. This is the reason why I refrained from retaking DAT even though my DAT is not stellar (AA:19). But since I have no interviews in this cycle, I would have no choice but to retake it. What would you recommend to do to prepare for this?

The best way to prepare for it I would say is to go into the test with the assumption that you will get pianod so don't freak out once you see it. I just freaked out and got to stressed and couldn't get my mind clear. I wished I would have stayed calm and read through the passage first instead of trying to search and destroy and freaking out. I'm actually very mad at myself that I didn't remain calm. 😡
 
It appears as though most people get pianoed on their second attempt at DAT. This is the reason why I refrained from retaking DAT even though my DAT is not stellar (AA:19). But since I have no interviews in this cycle, I would have no choice but to retake it. What would you recommend to do to prepare for this?

Well its really random I think. Reason being is that two of my friends had the piano passage on their 1st DAT attempt one got 14 the other 15😱. So honestly in my opinion, the ADA needs to get rid of it. You could be an english major and still do poorly on the damn thing.
 
no such thing....
if it is a really hard passage to comprehend,,, therefore all of test takers will have the same experience.. a situation like that where standardized grad is applied should have no effect on your grad.
no such thing as i got a hard version of the test should have an effect of your final performance in such conditions.
 
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To OP Don't sweat it too much. As long as you have a strong GPA, you should be fine
 
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UnimaasMED,

Ha! I'll trade you. I just took the test yesterday for the first time and got humbled. I think I scored a perfect score in reading, but as their score standardization comes into play, I was given a 26. If I am reading the raw score to standard score conversion chart correctly, I got all the questions right, but my score was less than 30. Maybe I was given the "easy" version, so they lowered it in comparison to all you guys with the "hard" piano test. Other than scoring decently in gen chem and perceptual ability, I did not do so well. Granted, I won't take organic chemistry until this coming summer and I haven't had a math class in 15 years (I'm making a career change). Oh yeah... the last time I had BIO 102 was in 1997. Still, I thought I would fare better. Overall, that was a hard test to take.

It's a shame we can't trade points.
 
UnimaasMED,

Ha! I'll trade you. I just took the test yesterday for the first time and got humbled. I think I scored a perfect score in reading, but as their score standardization comes into play, I was given a 26. If I am reading the raw score to standard score conversion chart correctly, I got all the questions right, but my score was less than 30. Maybe I was given the "easy" version, so they lowered it in comparison to all you guys with the "hard" piano test. Other than scoring decently in gen chem and perceptual ability, I did not do so well. Granted, I won't take organic chemistry until this coming summer and I haven't had a math class in 15 years (I'm making a career change). Oh yeah... the last time I had BIO 102 was in 1997. Still, I thought I would fare better. Overall, that was a hard test to take.

It's a shame we can't trade points.

Haha yeah I would love to trade my RC score! What was your strategy? Did you use search and destroy or did you read through the passage first?
 
Haha yeah I would love to trade my RC score! What was your strategy? Did you use search and destroy or did you read through the passage first?

I did read through the first two passages. I didn't have time to read through the third. With the first passage I found my mind wandering and I wasn't able to focus on what I was reading. After I noticed that I was mindlessly "reading", I forced myself to pay careful attention to the passage. I really didn't have a plan for this part of the test, but I did decide to write down a few words that summarized the topic of the paragraph after I finished each paragraph. This helped me to focus and comprehend what I was reading, and provided a quick reference for me to figure out which paragraph the answer was likely in. By the time I got to the second article I was focusing on what I was reading, trying to understand it as I quickly read it. I didn't even read the third article because I was running out of time, so I quickly skimmed the paragraphs until I found the words I was looking for. I think I'm pretty good at picking words off a page, so if you're not, I would definitely recommend practicing that. Have somebody look at a passage, write down a few random words, then try to find them as absolutely fast as possible.

The real trick was figuring out exactly what they were asking, finding the appropriate sentences in the passage, then determining exactly what the passage was saying. A lot of times they had similar answers that appeared good, but on further thought (and rereading) I could figure out which was the best answer. For at least 1 or 2 of the questions, you really had to pick the "best" answer when there were more than one acceptable answers.

In the third passage I just had to jump to the questions and read to answer the questions. If I did miss a question, it was on this passage. By the time I had answered the last question, I had pretty much read the entire article and thought I had better go back to look at the second question again to make sure I put down the right answer. Then, the clock ran out, so I never got to double check.

The pressure of reading with the clock ticking on the screen was similar to having a drill sargeant leaning over you, yelling at you to drop down and give him 50 push-ups. It wasn't my favorite reading experience to say the least. I plan to practice for taking this portion of the test with somebody else by finding some practice articles and questions and having the other person try to make it intense for me to read and answer the questions (like blowing a whistle every minute which means I am out of time for that question and have to move onto the next question). I haven't worked out the details, but creating a stressful practice environment is the best I can come up with for simulating the real testing environment.

Other than that, convince yourself what you are reading really is interesting and make yourself curious to learn more about the subject. Then, you'll be able to focus, become more eager to read it, and possibly enjoy what you are reading. It sounds crazy, I know, but I was really fascinated by the second article. Force yourself to become intrigued by the passage and it won't be as bad.

You mentioned that you've been in the US for a year and a half. So, if English isn't your first language, I can see how this part would be tough. I have taught ESL, so I'm coming with a little understanding when I say that. One painless way that you could "beef up" your English language ability is to turn English subtitles on when you are watching movies or TV shows (whatever) and to read along. If you do this, I would try to watch some more sophisticated titles as opposed to brain-dead comedies that really don't challenge your vocabulary. As you watch, read the subtitles. If you don't know what words mean, pause it and look it up. You have three goals: 1) speed reading; 2) expanding your vocabulary; 3) comprehending what you are reading. You could probably even find the script online for most movies, print it off, and read along. Honestly, this is a good strategy for anybody who wants to get better at reading.

Good luck!
 
My advice is to not get absorbed in the reading. Your eyes should be darting through the paragraphs in a zigzag pattern instead of along lines. I don't know about the US DAT, but for the Canadian one we have 2 columns which is perfect for zigzags because your eyes don't have to move very much.

Anyways, when you zigzag you pick out key words and new words out of every sentence (do NOT read every single word). It's like putting together a dictionary for the topic you're reading about. As you continue searching and putting this dictionary, your brain automatically pieces things together so you have a general idea about the topic. By reading quickly like this, it is also easier to remember where things are. When you answer the questions, you are able to quickly find which sections to reread if need be.

Pros:
-More time for answering questions
-Good if you have poor retention
-Questions you can answer without reading the passage (common sense, or knowledge you may have learned in class) gives you more time for other passages

Cons:
-More time spent rereading?
 
I wished I would have known this before I took my test. Anyways I called up some schools and they told me that since English is not my first language there is a good chance that they still consider me but I probably will have to take the TOEFL to prove proficiency in English language. I hope it works out!

Btw. I should warn people that I had some illusions on the cube counting part of PAT. I have heard people saying that cube counting is a lot easier on the real DAT but in my case it wasn't.
 
I wished I would have known this before I took my test. Anyways I called up some schools and they told me that since English is not my first language there is a good chance that they still consider me but I probably will have to take the TOEFL to prove proficiency in English language. I hope it works out!

Btw. I should warn people that I had some illusions on the cube counting part of PAT. I have heard people saying that cube counting is a lot easier on the real DAT but in my case it wasn't.

Based on your postings, I doubt you will have any trouble at all with the TOEFL test.

The hole punch part of the test had some folds on it that I don't think were legitimate. In addition to the 1/4 folds, 1/2 folds, and 45 degree folds, it had a couple of questions with 1/3 folds. There was also a question that had an unintelligible fold. I practiced for this portion of the test with Crack the PAT software, the Kaplan stuff, and the 2000 DAT and never saw anything like these.
 
I couldn't agree more with Odontiatros, I used most all of the same resources to practice for the PAT and there was one fold, I had no idea how they did. I made my assumption based on the limitations of the different dimensions that exist in our everyday lifes...

Crazy fold!
 
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