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Montserrat

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Hard work pays off - in my opinion, if you walked out of an exam thinking you can do better, chances are you can.

First time:

PAT : 18
QR : 17
RC : 20
BIO : 21
GC : 22
OC : 20
TS : 21
AA : 20

Retake:

PAT : 19
QR : 22
RC : 28
BIO : 26
GC : 30
OC: 23
TS: 26
AA: 26

I found it really helpful to read how others improved their scores with study material, so I hope that it can help someone else.

PAT: I used cracked the PAT (not the royal flush option). I'm disappointed that I didn't score higher, because I spent a good amount of time practicing only to score one point higher. I am sure I did fine on all the sections, except for angle ranking, which really messed me up.

QR: Other people have scored higher than me, but I improved my score by using the SAT I math prep book by Barron's. The practice was what really helped me, because I've always been slower on calculations. The DAT destroyer was helpful, because it does provide good practice. Just a note though, that I got function questions on my DAT that were not covered in the Kaplan blue book or the Destroyer. Luckily, the Barron's book covered it briefly, so I was able to figure them out.


RC: I used the Princeton Review MCAT verbal passage and reasoning review. I don't think they sell it individually, but if you have a friend who took the PR course for the MCAT, buy this book off them. It's very, very good practice for difficult tone and detail passages. My strategy was speedreading initially, read through one more time with a brief outline, and go to the questions. I had a little over 4 minutes left over after I finished all the questions.

BIO: I used Kaplan blue book (which honestly wasn't enough to nail down everything), looked at Schaum's Outlines for Biology (especially for systems biology, plant biology, evolution, and ecology.) The Cliffs AP BIO i thought, wasn't worth the $1.80 I paid for it. I then finished it off by looking over the Princeton review for Biology, and filled in holes in knowledge (after taking a few topscore, achiever exams, and DAT destroyer questions with the Leninger Biochem textbook and Campbells). Destroy I think is also very good practice. Two questions straight out of the destroyer section on my exam.

GC and OC: The MCAT review for GC and OC is actually really good. Princeton Review reviewed it far better than the Kaplan Blue book. The depth of calculation questions were definitely overkill when compared to the actual DAT, but I thought it was better to overshoot than undershoot.
The chem sections, I think, is where the Destroyer really shines. I was disappointed with my OC score, because I was spent so much time trying to figure out one problem that frustrated the hell out of me. Bottom line, practice makes perfect. I relied on Kaplan, Destroyer, MCAT Princeton review for orgo and gc, as well as a good orgo textbook written by Maitland Jones.

Good luck to all of you !
 
HOLY F***

I dont even think you need be congratulated. You know your percentile is something like 99.9 for AA. Even though its already late in the cycle, this score will surely get you in somewhere.

I am thouroughly impressed.
 
Question is... why you needed to retake... you already did well the first time around! xD

Anyway, congratz, you'll definitely get in to your top choice 👍
 
I was:rolleyes just wondering according to recent release dat score data nobody ever got 30 in any subject🙄!
 
Question is... why you needed to retake... you already did well the first time around! xD

Anyway, congratz, you'll definitely get in to your top choice 👍

He needed that retake because he wasnt getting much love from d-schools with his previous DAT, which I thought was quite ridiculous. However, with this score, I am pretty sure it will be all smooth sailing from now on.
 
😱

Congratulations! Those scores are amazing. I'm confident you'll be part of the class of 2012. Your credentials were already stellar so those will definitely seal the deal for you.

If you don't mind me asking, how long and how often did you study?
 
Ah, I see! Well, I was too lazy to check his stats earlier, but apparently he has a 2.9 science GPA... so maybe that's why he wasn't getting any in the first place.

But I agree with you, now that he rocked his DATs, hopefully the adcomms will overlook his sci GPA and give him a chance 🙂


He needed that retake because he wasnt getting much love from d-schools with his previous DAT, which I thought was quite ridiculous. However, with this score, I am pretty sure it will be all smooth sailing from now on.
 
wow...you killed the test. Apply to every Ivy league school right away!
 
I'm just kidding. Jeez, you creamed the test the first time but you desintegrated it the second time! Congratulations! Which scholarships are you going to apply for now 🙂?
 
If you don't mind me asking, how long and how often did you study?

I'm not trying to avoid your question, but I don't really know the number of hours that I studied. Before I started, I looked at all the physical material I wanted to look over, placed them all on my bed, and then decided the best order to go through them. I studied for about a month and a little over three weeks, because that's how long it took me to go through everything that I wanted to confidently. I am currently working as well, so I did most of my studying at night when I got home. I stopped when I felt I was getting too tired to absorb any more. As geeky as it sounds, I also brought some review material with me when I went out bouldering on the weekends. Wedged a book in my crashpad, and looked over stuff when I was on downtime for climbing. Overall, it wasn't a superintensive approach because I didn't want to lock myself indoors reading all the time.

If I had to offer advice, use the method that allows you to understand the material, and not just memorize asinine factoids. If you do this, you'll be primed to take advantage of the destroyer, and you'll retain a lot more of the information come test day. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me. I log in fairly often.
 
I think you can get a 28. Try retaking it again!

Heh. No thanks man. Now that those ridiculous rainstorms have past through my area, I'm going to enjoy my Sunday morning and afternoon outside, with no books 😀.

edited to add: btw Jigabodo, it's 3-0, in case espn pains you too much to tune in.
 
I'm not trying to avoid your question, but I don't really know the number of hours that I studied. Before I started, I looked at all the physical material I wanted to look over, placed them all on my bed, and then decided the best order to go through them. I studied for about a month and a little over three weeks, because that's how long it took me to go through everything that I wanted to confidently. I am currently working as well, so I did most of my studying at night when I got home. I stopped when I felt I was getting too tired to absorb any more. As geeky as it sounds, I also brought some review material with me when I went out bouldering on the weekends. Wedged a book in my crashpad, and looked over stuff when I was on downtime for climbing. Overall, it wasn't a superintensive approach because I didn't want to lock myself indoors reading all the time.

If I had to offer advice, use the method that allows you to understand the material, and not just memorize asinine factoids. If you do this, you'll be primed to take advantage of the destroyer, and you'll retain a lot more of the information come test day. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me. I log in fairly often.

Oh no problem. I guess I'm just really nervous and I'm trying to get an idea of how long it takes people to study. It seems like the consensus is between 1-3months. I catch on to things fairly easy, but given how much material there is to cover, I just don't want to underestimate it, especially due to the fact that I am going to be studying while taking classes. Thanks.
 
Oh no problem. I guess I'm just really nervous and I'm trying to get an idea of how long it takes people to study. It seems like the consensus is between 1-3months. I catch on to things fairly easy, but given how much material there is to cover, I just don't want to underestimate it, especially due to the fact that I am going to be studying while taking classes. Thanks.

No sweat. I remember reading Fancymylotus' advice about a super intensive prepping leading towards the exam. (Search to see what I'm talking about. It's zombifying.) I knew it wasn't how I would best learn, so I chose to take things at my own pace and spread it out over chunks (ie. I'd study all of plant bio, then biochem, then physio, then evolution, and etc in chunks - kinda similar to block learning with little time in between.) I didn't try to tackle everything in one go in two weeks - I'm sure some people can, but definitely not me.

Prepping for the DAT while taking classes could be tough, but it's manageable depending on your credit load. Did you settle on a date to take your DAT, or is that date flexible ?
 
No sweat. I remember reading Fancymylotus' advice about a super intensive prepping leading towards the exam. (Search to see what I'm talking about. It's zombifying.) I knew it wasn't how I would best learn, so I chose to take things at my own pace and spread it out over chunks (ie. I'd study all of plant bio, then biochem, then physio, then evolution, and etc in chunks - kinda similar to block learning with little time in between.) I didn't try to tackle everything in one go in two weeks - I'm sure some people can, but definitely not me.

Prepping for the DAT while taking classes could be tough, but it's manageable depending on your credit load. Did you settle on a date to take your DAT, or is that date flexible ?

Oh no the date is very flexible. I don't plan on taking it until sometime next spring since Im applying for next cycle. With a couple breaks sprinkled in there that i could devote purely to studying, I figure that will give me a good amount of time to study. I'm not the type that could lock myself in a room for 12 hrs and just study study study. Just the thought makes me want to slit my wrists. Also, my course load won't be too heavy to where I won't have time to study. If it is the way it is now, I'll have ample time. It will just be a matter of discipline.
 
i have some questions which i think you might be able to asnwer me. i am kind of in your situation. is it possible if i can call you. i can give you my email address!
 
i have some questions which i think you might be able to asnwer me. i am kind of in your situation. is it possible if i can call you. i can give you my email address!

Heh. I'm kinda curious myself. Why did you choose the Director of Penn Dental Admissions as your screen name ?
 
Thats kinda scary.

Anyways Monster, got any interview invites so far?

Zip... I had a false alarm when I received a letter from UMDNJ. It was a large package, but it turned out to be from the master's program I am attending in January. Half-bummed.

I just sent an update letter out to all the schools I applied to, including just about everything I'm doing that's dental related, except for my daily hygiene regimen. Stinks... but nothing I can do but wait this out.
 
Good Job & Congrats!! I'm in the UMDNJ master's program right now...hopefully i'll have results as awesome as you!!...I'm just happily hunting through the Destroyer!
 
Zip... I had a false alarm when I received a letter from UMDNJ. It was a large package, but it turned out to be from the master's program I am attending in January. Half-bummed.

I just sent an update letter out to all the schools I applied to, including just about everything I'm doing that's dental related, except for my daily hygiene regimen. Stinks... but nothing I can do but wait this out.

You'll get in somewhere with those stats I'm sure. Otherwise, people like me have no shot in hell. 😱
 
Montserrat...congrats on those rediculous scores! If you don't mind me asking, what post-bac program are you in?
 
amazing scores!! time to party? :hardy:

i can't understand how you could not have any interview invites yet. 😕

even your first set of scores were good...........

*smacks self with destroyer*
 
You are getting pretty famous monster. Couple of us interviees were just talking about you during our interview.

heh. that's pretty funny. hopefully I'll have an interview soon so I can eavesdrop on the discourse.
 
where do you go bouldering montserrat?

Just like I forget about everything I do in my life when I am at the Gunks Mt., the word "bouldering" took my mind away for a bit once you mentioned it.

Thanks for your advice here, I hope I will do just as fine.
 
Congrats man. I have to say, I was a little worried reading that you were planning a retake these past couple months, you're scores were already so high. It would have been easy to drop.

But you did amazing. Gluck with the rest of the process!
 
where do you go bouldering montserrat?

Just like I forget about everything I do in my life when I am at the Gunks Mt., the word "bouldering" took my mind away for a bit once you mentioned it.

Thanks for your advice here, I hope I will do just as fine.

more recently, in the gunks as well. I have a few projects in the trapps and peterskill that I'm trying to send before I leave the area.
 
more recently, in the gunks as well. I have a few projects in the trapps and peterskill that I'm trying to send before I leave the area.

Well if you are ever coming to the Gunks this coming weekend plz let me know. I may not have beat you on the DAT but hell, I may be better at climbing !! Hahaha...
I'll be there probably for the last time this season. If not I hope to see you around next year with some acceptance letters from dental schools.👍

Nice to meet you -
 
you have amazing scores! congrats.... keep us all posted through the process 😀
 
hey i just put up a new thread called dat 11/6 please just took my dat and did bad and am very frustrated please if there is any helpful advice you can give me or any study material that you recommend that would be greatly appreciated thanks
 
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