Declining an acceptance=Kiss of death?

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If you decline an acceptance from a dental school in order to reapply again next year and hopefully get into your number one school (whether that be for cost, location, or other reasons) does it make it hard/impossible to get into another dental school? I know on the AADSAS application there is a section for this very topic. Has anyone turned down an acceptance and then got in the following year somewhere else?

 

[Incis0r]

Oh gosh. I hope this doesn't negatively impact an applicant. This would be bad.

 

[DentalLonghorn2014]

Do schools know if you have gotten accepted?

 

[basketball_grey]

How would it impact an applicant?

 

[tombradyschin]

Yes, if you recall, when you filled out aadsas there was a yes or no question box that asked "have you previously been accepted to an accredited US dental school?"

Why did you waste the money and apply if you aren't gonna go? It may give off a bad sense of responsibility to school. Strictly in my opinion you would be foolish to pull that move

 

[DentalLonghorn2014]

You need to have a REALLY good reason if you are to decline...

 

[basketball_grey]

This isn't for me at all, and I would never plan on doing that. I was talking with a fellow pre-dent who was considering doing something of this nature and now I have more reason to convince him to do otherwise

 

[Incis0r]

Yes, if you recall, when you filled out aadsas there was a yes or no question box that asked "have you previously been accepted to an accredited US dental school?"

Why did you waste the money and apply if you aren't gonna go? It may give off a bad sense of responsibility to school. Strictly in my opinion you would be foolish to pull that move

Thanks for sharing this. This will help me eliminate about 60% of my dental school application list.

 

[Typical Average Student]

I met a girl at my Nova interview that declined a NYU acceptance the previous cycle because it was too expensive. Not sure if she got in but since she was there at the interview, I assume turning down an acceptance wouldn't hurt you, it just shows that you have other expectations that you want to fulfill.

I know before Dec 1st, I just wanted an acceptance from anywhere so I applied broadly but after Dec 1st, I came to the realization that tuition is indeed a very big investment, I was actually contemplating reapplying to only Texas schools. Though that's only because the schools I've been accepted to are nearly double in tuition so it would have taken me twice as long to pay off my debt, so I figured taking 1 year to reapply would be a wise choice.

But I got over it. lol... The children need formula.

 

[Scumbag_Steve]

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[A Pre-dent]

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[TthDec]

I can actually speak to this. I was accepted two cycles ago and due to some very unfortunate circumstances, I had to drop out one day before school started. These are my results:

First Cycle:
Complete in Sept.
6 interviews (13-14 schools applied)

Current Cycle:
Complete in July
1 post-dec interview (19 schools applied)

Needless to say, I'm really upset with how things have turned out.

 

[darknightzzz]

I can actually speak to this. I was accepted two cycles ago and due to some very unfortunate circumstances, I had to drop out one day before school started. These are my results:

First Cycle:
Complete in Sept.
6 interviews (13-14 schools applied)

Current Cycle:
Complete in July
1 post-dec interview (19 schools applied)

Needless to say, I'm really upset with how things have turned out.

this counts as you already matriculated into a school and potential cause the school that spot loss. not just accepted and denied the offer to reapply

 

[TthDec]

this counts as you already matriculated into a school and potential cause the school that spot loss. not just accepted and denied the offer to reapply

Besides the irrelevancy of the first portion of your response, what does that last part even mean?

 

[Incis0r]

Besides the irrelevancy of the first portion of your response, what does that last part even mean?

I think what @darknightzzz is saying is that, while declining an acceptance looks bad, it looks even worse to matriculate at a school and then drop out. In the first case of dropping an acceptance, the school can readily pull from a waitlist or accept other applicants. In the second case of dropping out after matriculating, you can potentially leave a school's seat open for four years, causing it to lose about $400,000 in revenue over the four years (your tuition + fees).

Sorry to hear your cycle isn't going well. I hope you get some good news soon!

 

[darknightzzz]

Besides the irrelevancy of the first portion of your response, what does that last part even mean?

people on SDN need to chillax sometimes. My first portion is not irrevelant, excuse you.

this counts as you already matriculated into a school and potential cause the school that spot loss. not just accepted and denied the offer to reapply

aka

you gave up your spot too late, just one day before school started, I don't think the school could fill the spot from waitlist (even then, may be that will be someone the school does not really desire).

the second part means in your case, you are not just simply accepted, but you choose to deny the offer in order to reapply. your case is counted as you already matriculated, but dropped out of dental school (though technically school did notnot start yet).

what makes you think if one DS accepts you now, it would stop you from doing the same thing you did two years ago.

 

[TthDec]

I think what @darknightzzz is saying is that, while declining an acceptance looks bad, it looks even worse to matriculate at a school and then drop out. In the first case of dropping an acceptance, the school can readily pull from a waitlist or accept other applicants. In the second case of dropping out after matriculating, you can potentially leave a school's seat open for four years, causing it to lose about $400,000 in revenue over the four years (your tuition + fees).

Sorry to hear your cycle isn't going well. I hope you get some good news soon!

They were informed of the situation and had the spot filled prior to classes beginning (dates and such were altered to keep some semblance of anonymity).

 

[darknightzzz]

I think what @darknightzzz is saying is that, while declining an acceptance looks bad, it looks even worse to matriculate at a school and then drop out. In the first case of dropping an acceptance, the school can readily pull from a waitlist or accept other applicants. In the second case of dropping out after matriculating, you can potentially leave a school's seat open for four years, causing it to lose about $400,000 in revenue over the four years (your tuition + fees).

Sorry to hear your cycle isn't going well. I hope you get some good news soon!

since when I have this good of a translator.

 

[TthDec]

people on SDN need to chillax sometimes. My first portion is not irrevelant, excuse you.

this counts as you already matriculated into a school and potential cause the school that spot loss. not just accepted and denied the offer to reapply

aka

you gave up your spot too late, just one day before school started, I don't think the school could fill the spot from waitlist (even then, may be that will be someone the school does not really desire).

the second part means in your case, you are not just simply accepted, but you choose to denied the offer to reapply. your case is counted as you already matriculate, but drop out of dental school (though technically school does not start yet).

what makes you think if one DS accepts you now, it would stop you from doing the same thing you did two years ago.

So, you just made a bunch of baseless assumptions and claimed relevancy. Fine.

As for everything written past the bolded section, its too undecipherable to understand clearly. Are you referring to deferment when you say 'choose to denied the offer to reapply'? If so, the school doesn't offer deferred acceptances.

 

[darknightzzz]

So, you just made a bunch of baseless assumptions and claimed relevancy. Fine.

As for everything written past the bolded section, its too undecipherable to understand clearly. You really should do some basic proofreading before posting. Are you referring to deferment when you say 'choose to denied the offer to reapply'? If so, the school doesn't offer deferred acceptances.

probably it is too undecipherable only to you. This is probably why you only end up having 1 post dec interview by now. Good luck with that. May be all you need is 1. Excuse my baseless assumptions that may not explain your situation. I am sorry.

EDIT: i know you are frustrated with yourself and your current application cycle but if you want to take that on someone, just go do that elsewhere. You posted something and I just commented based on what I know. I didn't say my comments explained WHY, WHAT, HOW your situation is.

 

[TthDec]

probably it is too undecipherable only to you. This is probably why you only end up having 1 post dec interview by now. Good luck with that. May be all you need is 1. Excuse my baseless assumptions that may not explain your situation. I am sorry.

EDIT: i know you are frustrated with yourself and your current application cycle but if you want to take that on someone, just go do that elsewhere. You posted something and I just commented based on what I know. I didn't say my comments explained WHY, WHAT, HOW your situation is.

What? Do you really not get that what you've written is poorly constructed, riddled with grammatical errors, and makes little to no sense? Why do you need to be so insanely hostile and start with personal attacks?

 

[darknightzzz]

What? Do you really not get that what you've written is poorly constructed, riddled with grammatical errors, and makes little to no sense? Why do you need to be so insanely hostile and start with personal attacks?

report me to the Mods then if you think so. I am going to end here.

 

[TthDec]

report me to the Mods then if you think so. I am going to end here.

You're weird as **** mate.

 

[doc toothache]

This isn't for me at all, and I would never plan on doing that. I was talking with a fellow pre-dent who was considering doing something of this nature and now I have more reason to convince him to do otherwise

Your "fellow pre-dent" apparently needs help taking his first steps into adulthood and you are simply acting as his enabler/"consigliere".

 

[sumin5924]

You're weird as **** mate.

Well someone finally said it LOL

 

[Bucks783]

I know someone who got into NYU last cycle (after being on the waitlist) and declined the acceptance due to a family emergency that came up. They stayed home and took more classes to stay engaged academically and they applied to NYU now that things are better this cycle with a now higher GPA, more shadowing hours, more volunteer hours and an additional letter of recommendation and they got rejected pre-interview....that is messed up if you ask me

 

[Incis0r]

I know someone who got into NYU last cycle (after being on the waitlist) and declined the acceptance due to a family emergency that came up. They stayed home and took more classes to stay engaged academically and they applied to NYU now that things are better this cycle with a now higher GPA, more shadowing hours, more volunteer hours and an additional letter of recommendation and they got rejected pre-interview....that is messed up if you ask me

Well couldn't it be that the applicants were just more competitive this cycle?

 

[Bucks783]

Well couldn't it be that the applicants were just more competitive this cycle?

I would say for some schools....but for NYU I would say no...DAT all 20+ and 3.6 GPAs with leadership roles in ECs....I was shocked...I even got an interview with lower stats and less hours volunteers and just one EC group

 

[A Pre-dent]

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[Bucks783]

He/she couldn't accept the offer and defer matriculation by a year? I don't know whether schools do this, but frankly they should if someone has a real emergency. However, if this person didn't fully explain the situation to NYU, the rejection should be no surprise. No one trusts a flake.

Yeah no deferring was allowed. Family illness, which he said he brought up along with thanking the school and that he would reapply again if things got better. Crazy

 

[jakeyk]

That's unfair that they don't allow deferrals. Legitimate reasons do come on. I agree with other posters though, you really only should apply to schools that you would go to that year if you get accepted (although obviously sometimes life situations do change).