Defer for 2 years for Rhodes or Marshall?

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Has anyone had any luck getting a deferment from a medical school for two years in order to take advantage of a Rhodes or Marshall scholarship?

 

[lord_jeebus]

If you get a Rhodes, don't worry if you can't defer. They'll accept you again for sure, as will many places that didn't consider you before.

 

[solitude]

Has anyone had any luck getting a deferment from a medical school for two years in order to take advantage of a Rhodes or Marshall scholarship?

every school I've contacted has said that they will grant such a deferral. If you win one of these it is essentially a golden ticket into any medical school in the country.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

I hear Rhodes was established to spread British hegemony through out its colonies.

 

[Law2Doc]

Has anyone had any luck getting a deferment from a medical school for two years in order to take advantage of a Rhodes or Marshall scholarship?

I'm pretty sure someone on SDN got a Rhodes deferral a year or so ago.

 

[solitude]

I hear Rhodes was established to spread British hegemony through out its colonies.

Not really. Rhodes wanted all of the future world leaders to congregate at his alma mater, with the idea that they would develop strong enough ties there that they would cooperate throughout their lives to promote world peace, etc.

 

[MWK]

My sister was a Marshall and got a couple deferrals, including a full ride + deferral. She turned it down and is at P&S right now.

Harvard has a habit of turning down one Marsh/Rhodes per year.

 

[cheezer]

threads like this make me feel dumb

 

[MWK]

threads like this make me feel dumb

Try having one in your family!

 

[bubabugster]

Wow- a Rhodes scholar- impressive! Yeah- deferment should not be a problem.

 

[mordounhas]

It's not like Rhodes carved out his own private kingdom in the middle of Africa for his own benefit, he did it for others.

Avoiding the topic of imperialism, I'd just call and ask the schools you're interested in. That's the easiest way to get a realistic answer.

 

[postbacker]

Has anyone had any luck getting a deferment from a medical school for two years in order to take advantage of a Rhodes or Marshall scholarship?

Since Rhodes awards are not determined until late November / early December, can we assume you are not currently a Rhodes Scholar? If you were, you would have known this in December 2006 - so why would you have applied this cycle?

Or are you counting your chickens before they hatch? Are you currently in the Rhodes competition and the med app cycle? Because you have a LONG way to go before worrying about this problem...

Seems like you will have something VERY interesting to talk about in your interviews if this is the case if you do win...and a good time to ask the ADCOM yourself...

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Not really. Rhodes wanted all of the future world leaders to congregate at his alma mater, with the idea that they would develop strong enough ties there that they would cooperate throughout their lives to promote world peace, etc.

A Pax Britannica? Rhodes was a white supremacist, an ardent imperialist, and definitely no hero in my book that's for sure.

 

[solitude]

A Pax Britannica? Rhodes was a white supremacist, an ardent imperialist, and definitely no hero in my book that's for sure.

I am not denying that Rhodes was a white supremacist, an ardent imperialist, the spawn of Satan, etc. But the stated purpose of his bequest was not to ensure British hegemony, and I can think of many better ways that he could have used his fortune to foster British domination than to fund a scholarship fund to Oxford. In fact one could argue that his scholarship has actually done a lot of good for the world, whatever (or, despite) his motives.

He was a nefarious man, but in the worlds of Maebea, who only posts on the MD/PhD forum (and posted the following when this topic came up a few months ago):

"There's a lot of blood on the hands of benefactors of many universities. Leland Stanford was a railway robber baron who made a lot of his money on the backs of chinese workers. Duke's money came from a tobacco fortune. In more modern times, David Geffen (UCLA) and Sandy Weill (Cornell) have not been sunday school teachers either. These guys may not be quite in Lord Cecil's league, but they certainly have a stench about them.

We would be remiss if we did not tip our hat in the direction of Alfred Nobel, whose wonderous invention of dynamite greatly expanded the killing potential of war, ensuring that the dead would maimed beyond recognition, while providing international recognition and a fat check to so many bright people toiling away in academic obscurity.

Perhaps Shaw's Undershaft should be our hero for having no pretense about his willingness to sell weapons to anyone who had the money to pay, and for not feeling the need later in life to rehabilitate his image by giving vast fortunes to universities and medical schools to secure naming rights."

 

[mordounhas]

You forgot Johnny D Rockefeller and his donations to the University of Chicago, but it's a pretty good list. Many men who became rich through interesting means have tried to wash their hands of it later by donating money to schools or libraries. Let's blame it on Carnegie.

 

[pennquaker08]

You forgot Johnny D Rockefeller and his donations to the University of Chicago, but it's a pretty good list. Many men who became rich through interesting means have tried to wash their hands of it later by donating money to schools or libraries. Let's blame it on Carnegie.

And then there are Thomas Jefferson (U Virginia), Alexander Hamilton (Hamilton College), and, of course, Benjamin Franklin, founder of my beloved soon-to-be alma mater 😀.

 

[MossPoh]

We can throw in vanderbilt...unless someone mentioned him and I didn't see it.

 

[okay]

It seems that students who have begun the medical/ graduate school are also eligible to apply for the Rhodes scholarship. Does anyone know if med schools are willing to allow students to take two years off after they have completed their first or second year?