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Dr.Optic

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Hey, guys! So I recently went to my dentist to get my usual cleaning and when he walked in I told him that I was considering ophthalmology or dentistry. He looked at me, sighed and said, "I would go eye surgery". He then said dentistry had good pay and a great growth rate, and if I picked dentistry he wished me best of luck. I was wondering if he was trying to drive me away from dentistry for some reason? Is dentistry going downhill or something? I would love everyone's input!
 
Who knows. Maybe he just wishes he would have went the MD/DO route? He could also be an older dentist who thinks that the cost of certain dental schools is too much nowadays. Or maybe he views the rise of corporate dentistry as a deterrent.

Also, not sure if you knew this, but ophthalmology is a residency that comes after medical school. I think the consensus among medical students is to wait until after the Step I exam and third year rotations before committing to a specialty. Of course, there are medical students that enter medical school knowing they've always wanted to enter a specific specialty, and end up doing so.
 
The problem with dentistry is its debt to income ratios, and unfortunately, there has been a steady decrease in the average income of dentists with a huge increase in educational debt over the last decade.

Some dentists are quite optimistic, others not so much. Corporate dentistry is on the rise and this has limited the incomes of practitioners, either directly as an employer or as competition. Saturation of cities is also a concern, but there are pressing needs for dentistry outside of them.
 
He assumes that ophthalmology is easier/more profitable then dentistry
 
Who knows. Maybe he just wishes he would have went the MD/DO route? He could also be an older dentist who thinks that the cost of certain dental schools is too much nowadays. Or maybe he views the rise of corporate dentistry as a deterrent.

Also, not sure if you knew this, but ophthalmology is a residency that comes after medical school. I think the consensus among medical students is to wait until after the Step I exam and third year rotations before committing to a specialty. Of course, there are medical students that enter medical school knowing they've always wanted to enter a specific specialty, and end up doing so.

Well, I am not setting ophthalmology in stone, but it is something that has fascinated me since I went to an ophthalmologist when I was younger. I know I have to get to med school, residency, and so forth, but you know just something to think about.
 
The problem with dentistry is its debt to income ratios, and unfortunately, there has been a steady decrease in the average income of dentists with a huge increase in educational debt over the last decade.

Some dentists are quite optimistic, others not so much. Corporate dentistry is on the rise and this has limited the incomes of practitioners, either directly as an employer or as competition. Saturation of cities is also a concern, but there are pressing needs for dentistry outside of them.

Do you think that dentistry in the midwest is going to be taken over by corporate? I know that where I live in the midwest there is a need for doctors of all types.
 
Well, I am not setting ophthalmology in stone, but it is something that has fascinated me since I went to an ophthalmologist when I was younger. I know I have to get to med school, residency, and so forth, but you know just something to think about.

If you do decide to pursue this, keep in mind that it's one of the most competitive medical specialities and you most likely have to go to a MD school (NOT DO) to match into it.
Yes Medicine offers a much better ROI compared to private dental schools.
 
Dentistry is not on the decline perse, but it isn't quite what it used to be 10+ years ago. Incomes are on a steady decline as insurances slash reimbursements. Delta, UC, and UHC just shaved 15-25% of already meager payouts. We're at pre-1990 payment levels in my area. Most patients are brainwashed into needing to use their insurance and believing that is the only way they are able to get dental care. So there is definitely an income cap. As an associate, there is little job security unless you find that unicorn practice that needs someone and is willing to work with you. And the ROI is rapidly dwindling as student loans are ballooning. But the flexibility can't really be matched with working as much as you want to.

Medicine has more job security and higher payscales. But the hours are intense, the insurance hoops you need to jump through are crazy and the amount of training needed to get there are trying. I had a medical resident in my chair yesterday and I was surprised by the hours that she was clocking during her residency. And any speciality that you think you may want now is not set in stone. Lots of things are dependent on your grades, Step exams, and honestly, how you feel as you progress through your career in medicine. Of the people I know who went to med school, only 1 ended up in the speciality he wanted BEFORE he started school.

As far as corporate dentistry taking over the Midwest, they are popping up everywhere. Even in areas where you wouldn't think there was much need for it, they are popping up like crazy.

Both have risks and rewards. Just remember that wherever you end up, the grass is always greener on the other side. I'm happy with dentistry overall, but am hating watching corporate dentistry and the insurance companies run our profession into the ground.
 
He wants YOU to make that decision.
 
The chances of becoming an ophthalmologist are low, and that's the truth. Going to dental school, you are guaranteed to graduate as a dentist. Going to medical school, you have no guarantee you will be an ophthalmologist. This is something you need to keep in mind. It is a VERY difficult specialty to match.
 
I've shadowed quite a few different dentists. They each have their own perception if dentistry is "worth it" so to speak. The next dentist might be all optimistic and have a completely different outlook.
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