Different GPA/MCAT ratios, same LizzyM?

[chinesedude]

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According to the LizzyM calculator, could someone explain how the same LizzyM is viewed in these scenarios? Thank you!

1. 3.9 and 515 = LM 73
2. 3.7 and 518 = LM 73

I am personally in situation #2 and have many friends in situation #1. However, my advisor advised me against applying to any top 20's, whereas my colleagues were advised to. I would like to know SDN's opinion on this matter.

 

[ChymeofPassion]

You're both competitive for top 20's. You are probably more competitive.

 

[MareNostrummm]

According to the LizzyM calculator, could someone explain how the same LizzyM is viewed in these scenarios? Thank you!

1. 3.9 and 515 = LM 73
2. 3.7 and 518 = LM 73

I am personally in situation #2 and have many friends in situation #1. However, my advisor advised me against applying to any top 20's, whereas my colleagues were advised to. I would like to know SDN's opinion on this matter.

Higher MCAT is more competitive.

 

[dr_kateb]

According to the LizzyM calculator, could someone explain how the same LizzyM is viewed in these scenarios? Thank you!

1. 3.9 and 515 = LM 73
2. 3.7 and 518 = LM 73

I am personally in situation #2 and have many friends in situation #1. However, my advisor advised me against applying to any top 20's, whereas my colleagues were advised to. I would like to know SDN's opinion on this matter.

lmao

 

[E.Hemingway]

For what it’s worth, I have a 3.6 and 519 (which I think is LizzyM 73) and I got two top 20 IIs.

Edit: Actually, I just looked them up to make sure - one of them is top 20, the other top 25.

 

[Lawpy]

According to the LizzyM calculator, could someone explain how the same LizzyM is viewed in these scenarios? Thank you!

1. 3.9 and 515 = LM 73
2. 3.7 and 518 = LM 73

I am personally in situation #2 and have many friends in situation #1. However, my advisor advised me against applying to any top 20's, whereas my colleagues were advised to. I would like to know SDN's opinion on this matter.

Admissions is driven by MCAT scores because they are standardized and objective. This is why someone with a 3.4/526 can get into WashU, Pritzker, Penn, NYU but someone with a 4.0/506 may get completely shut out by US MD.

 

[Goro]

According to the LizzyM calculator, could someone explain how the same LizzyM is viewed in these scenarios? Thank you!

1. 3.9 and 515 = LM 73
2. 3.7 and 518 = LM 73

I am personally in situation #2 and have many friends in situation #1. However, my advisor advised me against applying to any top 20's, whereas my colleagues were advised to. I would like to know SDN's opinion on this matter.

Both of those people will go to med school, and a top one at that. Maybe #1 won't get into Harvard/Stanford class schools, but definitely Keck class.

Your adviser is data point #34937805783635299 that most pre-med advisers are absolute *****s.

 

[lol_new_user]

I do know someone with a LizzyM 74.5 with an MCAT considered more 'competitive' than his GPA. He has interviews from a handful of top 20s (one of them top 10). Definitely higher MCAT looks more impressive, because it is standardized.

 

[deleted804295]

lmao

Advisers in general are pretty useless, eh?

 

[BombsAway]

I Interviewed at a top 15 with a 502 (I'm as white as rice before you ask). Maybe there's more to it

 

[PreMedMissteps]

I Interviewed at a top 15 with a 502 (I'm as white as rice before you ask). Maybe there's more to it

Tell us more ....


As for the OP.....your MCAT would likely be viewed as more valuable. I don't think adcoms really diffentiate that much between a 3.7 and a 3.9. Is this cum or BCPM or both? In which classes did you not get A's?

Just curious....What are the rankings of your instate SOMs?

Are you saying that you all had the same advisor and he/she told those in situation #1 to apply to top 20, but told you not to? Are you a ORM? Do they have some hook?

Do you attend a top private or public Univ?

 

[chinesedude]

Tell us more ....


As for the OP.....your MCAT would likely be viewed as more valuable. I don't think adcoms really diffentiate that much between a 3.7 and a 3.9. Is this cum or BCPM or both? In which classes did you not get A's?

Just curious....What are the rankings of your instate SOMs?

Are you saying that you all had the same advisor and he/she told those in situation #1 to apply to top 20, but told you not to? Are you a ORM? Do they have some hook?

Do you attend a top private or public Univ?

My cGPA is 3.7, my sGPA is a little lower at 3.6. I got B's and C's in all my 101 science classes (Bio 1, Chem 1, Calc 1). Freshman year was hard. Did well in the weed-out classes (got A's in orgo, biochem, etc). I don't know how that is viewed.

My home state is NJ with childhood ties to NY so I plan to apply to both.

My advisor doesn't seem too fond of me, not sure why. She just thought my stats were average (might be due to my poor freshman grades).

I attended a top 25, not HYP.

 

[BombsAway]

Do you have insane ECs? I know a guy with a 510 right now, applied to 15 low-mid tier schools and he has 1 II and last he said 3 R's. You have 8 II from MD alone.

Yeah, I do. That's all there is to it: be exceptional at something. That thing could be the mcat/gpa, or it could be something else. Carry on.

 

[PreMedMissteps]

I Interviewed at a top 15 with a 502 (I'm as white as rice before you ask). Maybe there's more to it

Yeah, I do. That's all there is to it: be exceptional at something. That thing could be the mcat/gpa, or it could be something else. Carry on.

You already have 8 MD II's and 2 acceptances.

What is your exceptional?

 

[PreMedMissteps]

My cGPA is 3.7, my sGPA is a little lower at 3.6. I got B's and C's in all my 101 science classes (Bio 1, Chem 1, Calc 1). Freshman year was hard. Did well in the weed-out classes (got A's in orgo, biochem, etc). I don't know how that is viewed.

My home state is NJ with childhood ties to NY so I plan to apply to both.

My advisor doesn't seem too fond of me, not sure why. She just thought my stats were average (might be due to my poor freshman grades).

I attended a top 25, not HYP.

Your science GPA may be one reason and being an ORM may be another reason why the advisor suggested that you not apply to top programs. Sure, you can go ahead and do so, but if your school writes committee letters and this advisor will be providing input regarding the level of your recommendation, then she may be essentially telling you, "don't apply high because your CL will include a lukewarm endorsement."

It sounds like you got Bs and Cs in bio I, bio II, gen chem I, gen chem II, physics I, physics II, calc I....for an ORM traditional applicant, that could be your problem.

 

[deleted804295]

Your science GPA may be one reason and being an ORM may be another reason why the advisor suggested that you not apply to top programs. Sure, you can go ahead and do so, but if your school writes committee letters and this advisor will be providing input regarding the level of your recommendation, then she may be essentially telling you, "don't apply high because your CL will include a lukewarm endorsement."

It sounds like you got Bs and Cs in bio I, bio II, gen chem I, gen chem II, physics I, physics II, calc I....for an ORM traditional applicant, that could be your problem.

To me it doesn't seem like a problem especially since he got straight As in his upper divisions which were significantly harder. His grades show an upward trend.