DO Chances/Low Tier

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Here it goes:
cGPA 3.5
sGPA 3.1
MCAT 20N
BS Biology
BA Spanish
Both from a state school graduated 2012

Do I have any shot whatsoever at being admitted to a DO school? I was considering applying to MarianU because it is new and a few other of the "lower tier" schools such as Pikeville, West Virginia, and possibly LECOM. I read somewhere that school automatically screen out applicants that have MCAT scores under 22; I find that hard to believe, however, considering that Pikeville's average is (or at least was) 24. Would taking a year off, doing well in a post-bacc program and retaking the MCAT be necessary?
 
I guarantee you that at our school you're be automatically rejected because of that MCAT score.

Some of the new schools might give you an interview, but you are close to the bottom of acceptability, unless it was your VR score that dragged you down, and you're an ESL person.

So suggest applying only to those schools whose avg MCAT score is closer to 24 and lower.

Here it goes:
cGPA 3.5
sGPA 3.1
MCAT 20N
BS Biology
BA Spanish
Both from a state school graduated 2012

Do I have any shot whatsoever at being admitted to a DO school? I was considering applying to MarianU because it is new and a few other of the "lower tier" schools such as Pikeville, West Virginia, and possibly LECOM. I read somewhere that school automatically screen out applicants that have MCAT scores under 22; I find that hard to believe, however, considering that Pikeville's average is (or at least was) 24. Would taking a year off, doing well in a post-bacc program and retaking the MCAT be necessary?
 
Do NOT apply this cycle. Study for the MCAT for 6 months and retake it and aim for 28+. Retake science courses you did the worst in and be SURE to get A's.

As you stand now, you will seriously just waste all of your money applying. Your MCAT, sorry to say, is just pitiful. You have to remember that there are thousands of people applying for only 100-200 seats in a class.

-Are you a URM?
-Please list your EC's with amount of hours
-How did you study for the MCAT the first time?
 
Do NOT apply this cycle. Study for the MCAT for 6 months and retake it and aim for 28+. Retake science courses you did the worst in and be SURE to get A's.

As you stand now, you will seriously just waste all of your money applying. Your MCAT, sorry to say, is just pitiful. You have to remember that there are thousands of people applying for only 100-200 seats in a class.

-Are you a URM?
-Please list your EC's with amount of hours
-How did you study for the MCAT the first time?

Goro, your thoughts echoed mine exactly, unfortunately...

Gmcguitar4, I am not a URM unless you consider being gay to fall under this category. My EC's are very lacking as I was not originally considering med school. I think this area could easily be improved upon thankfully. I used Examkrackers to study for the MCAT and took the MCAT before I had taken physics 1 and 2. Bio was 7, verbal was 6, and physical sciences was 7. I did not spend all that much time studying and I had been doing better on the AAMC practice tests (mid 20s). I'm not sure what happened on test day because I do not normally have problems with taking exams.
As far as retaking science classes goes, I originally got a C+ in Gen Chem II and a C+ in Cell Bio. I have A- in the majority of my science classes with a few Bs thrown in. This 3.1 science average was calculated by the AACPM, which takes into consideration Calculus (B- in both 1 and 2). I don't fully understand why it is so low because my school's degree audit says I have a (3.4 GPA in Biology). Do DO schools consider Calculus as part of the science GPA? I also read that they allow "true" grade replacement. Say i retake cell bio, in which I originally got a C+, and get an A; does the application service only take in to consideration the A, or an average of the two grades?
 
If being gay was URM than every male applicant would suddenly change their sexuality lol. I agree with goro but I would say dont apply with a 20 mcat that will demolish you. I think with a 26+ youd be ok applying. its only a 6 point increase, you can do it if you work hard. Going from a 20 to a 26 is way easier than from a 28 to 34, lol.
 
I know the responses you're getting are all over the place but here's my two cents.

Apply this cycle but only focus on low tier/ new schools. Also retaking the MCAT is a must. Prepare for your MCAT as you're going with the application process. Also, consider retaking science classes that you didn't do so well in. That way if you have to become a reapplicant for next cycle, your improved MCAT/sGPA score will be very helpful. And if you do get any interviews this cycle, you can show them that you're up for improvement with what you're doing.

Best of luck. 👍
Don't get discouraged if this cycle doesn't work out.
 
Dude you won't get in anywhere with a 20 MCAT and such low gpa. This isn't the Caribbean you're talking about...
 
With those numbers you are looking at DPM right now.
 
dont waste your money applying until your MCAT score has improved dramatically. I know some schools are low tier but even they wont take anyone with a 20. sorry, dude. study again, reevaluate what went wrong. I jumped from a 22 to a 32 on my retake and i am no genious. if i can do it, then anyone can. best of luck👍
 
Here it goes:
cGPA 3.5
sGPA 3.1
MCAT 20N
BS Biology
BA Spanish
Both from a state school graduated 2012

Do I have any shot whatsoever at being admitted to a DO school? I was considering applying to MarianU because it is new and a few other of the "lower tier" schools such as Pikeville, West Virginia, and possibly LECOM. I read somewhere that school automatically screen out applicants that have MCAT scores under 22; I find that hard to believe, however, considering that Pikeville's average is (or at least was) 24. Would taking a year off, doing well in a post-bacc program and retaking the MCAT be necessary?

This shouldn't be hard to believe and your info on Pikeville's average is outdated. Numerous schools dont even have their own school's websites updated with their most recent stats. Call them and ask.
 
This shouldn't be hard to believe and your info on Pikeville's average is outdated. Numerous schools dont even have their own school's websites updated with their most recent stats. Call them and ask.
Pikeville still has a 24 average because they have regional bias. But 20 is too low even if OP is from KY. OP should retake the mcat and aim for 26+.
 
Pikeville still has a 24 average because they have regional bias. But 20 is too low even if OP is from KY. OP should retake the mcat and aim for 26+.

Wow, really! No wonder the national MCAT Average score for DO schools hasn't been increasing in recent years.
 
Yes, if you retake a class only the new grade will count toward your GPA on AACOMAS. Also retake the MCAT when you know you can hit high 20's.


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dont waste your money applying until your MCAT score has improved dramatically. I know some schools are low tier but even they wont take anyone with a 20. sorry, dude. study again, reevaluate what went wrong. I jumped from a 22 to a 32 on my retake and i am no genious. if i can do it, then anyone can. best of luck👍
How did you improve your score so dramatically? What did you use to study and what did you do differently the second time if you don't mind my asking? Congrats to you!
 
Here it goes:
cGPA 3.5
sGPA 3.1
MCAT 20N
BS Biology
BA Spanish
Both from a state school graduated 2012

Do I have any shot whatsoever at being admitted to a DO school? I was considering applying to MarianU because it is new and a few other of the "lower tier" schools such as Pikeville, West Virginia, and possibly LECOM. I read somewhere that school automatically screen out applicants that have MCAT scores under 22; I find that hard to believe, however, considering that Pikeville's average is (or at least was) 24. Would taking a year off, doing well in a post-bacc program and retaking the MCAT be necessary?

Like you said yourself man, you didn't study that much for the mcat. That's concerning, since it's arguably one of the most important exams you'll ever take, and you need to be able to strap down and spend all your free time studying if you want to succeed through medical school. Your GPAs are fine, but retake that mcat with a serious attitude, and you can reapply very hopefully next cycle.

I'm not saying don't apply this cycle either, you might just get lucky.

Best of luck


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Like you said yourself man, you didn't study that much for the mcat. That's concerning, since it's arguably one of the most important exams you'll ever take, and you need to be able to strap down and spend all your free time studying if you want to succeed through medical school. Your GPAs are fine, but retake that mcat with a serious attitude, and you can reapply very hopefully next cycle.

I'm not saying don't apply this cycle either, you might just get lucky.

Best of luck


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Two year old thread...
 
You know, I wonder if s/he is in medical school now. All they really had to do was retake the test and go for it.

These sorts of things make me so contemplative. This was a snapshot into a person's history, a fragment of their story, and here we are reading it two years later. What happened to the OP? What are they doing now?

That could be the midnight brain talking, Dr. Synth. ^^;
 
You know, I wonder if s/he is in medical school now. All they really had to do was retake the test and go for it.

These sorts of things make me so contemplative. This was a snapshot into a person's history, a fragment of their story, and here we are reading it two years later. What happened to the OP? What are they doing now?

That could be the midnight brain talking, Dr. Synth. ^^;

Me too! Wonder where his/her story's at now.

Here it goes:
cGPA 3.5
sGPA 3.1
MCAT 20N
BS Biology
BA Spanish
Both from a state school graduated 2012

Do I have any shot whatsoever at being admitted to a DO school? I was considering applying to MarianU because it is new and a few other of the "lower tier" schools such as Pikeville, West Virginia, and possibly LECOM. I read somewhere that school automatically screen out applicants that have MCAT scores under 22; I find that hard to believe, however, considering that Pikeville's average is (or at least was) 24. Would taking a year off, doing well in a post-bacc program and retaking the MCAT be necessary?

Op pls respond


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You know, I wonder if s/he is in medical school now. All they really had to do was retake the test and go for it.

These sorts of things make me so contemplative. This was a snapshot into a person's history, a fragment of their story, and here we are reading it two years later. What happened to the OP? What are they doing now?

That could be the midnight brain talking, Dr. Synth. ^^;

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I just have to respond...I really hope that wherever the OP is, s/he is happy with their choices. I wonder if they're currently studying for some med school exam. On a side note, I'm so glad I opened an SDN account. It'll be my personal time capsule. When I'm 85, retired from my career as a (hopefully successful) physician, I will look back on all of my posts (especially my WAMC post) and laugh softly at how much time I spent worrying when everything eventually worked out. OP, I hope you read this someday and are proud at how far you've come since this little post. On an additional side note, Good luck, everyone! I hope we all end up where we want to! 🙂

....Jeez.....contemplative much?? haha. sorry guys, internal monologue going on up here.
 
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