Is that possible? I posted this earlier in Match forum but noone knows the answer. So I post i here again hoping someone knows the answer to this.
DO doing MD residency and DO fellowship later???
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I know someone who did an MD IM residency and a DO cardiology fellowship. I imagine it is program specific, but it isn't impossible at this point.
In order to apply for DO fellowship you need completed DO internship. There is a way you can count your MD internship as a DO, but you have to go to AOA conference, and prove that you didn't have opportunity to finish standard DO internship.
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Only partially true.
Basically, in order to do that, you have to prove to AOA that your internship AND residency are equivalent to an AOA approved internship AND residency to apply for fellowship. Then you need to sit for the osteopathic boards in your specialty (e.g. ABOIM for IM) and if you pass, then it is MY UNDERSTANDING that you can apply for AOA fellowships. You also then have to re-certify in both worlds (e.g. ABIM and ABOIM) for the rest of your life to keep them both!
To get your internship approved you need to apply through Resolution 42. Contrary to the previous post, as of few years ago you NO LONGER need to prove hardship just equivalence (i.e. you no longer need to have a reason for attending ACGME programs). To get your residency approved you need to apply through Resolution 56.
Now there was an AOA resolution that would've automatically recognized some ACGME residencies as equivalent to AOA residencies which included IM but again it is MY UNDERSTANDING that it was voted down.
So, to summarize, as it currently stands, it is MY UNDERSTANDING that you are able to apply for AOA fellowships if your resolutions 42 AND 56 applications are approved by the AOA after completing your ACGME training. But you should always check with AOA if that is something you are seriously considering.
thanks for all the replies so far. My goal is to do a GI or Pulm/CC fellowship after residency. I don't really care if it's a DO or MD fellowship. My only concern is that those MD fellowships would not accept an DO into their program even if that DO completes an MD residency. Does anyone know anyone who successfully enter MD fellowships as a DO?
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Is this a serious question? There are plenty of DOs in allopathic fellowships, especially in Plum/CC. There are also DOs in GI fellowships. Some at very competitive places. BTW you can get all this info. from NRMP match data for fellowship (how many DOs have applied/to what/how many were accepted).
Also, I would assume that unless you are accepted to a competitive ACGME program you have less chances at AOA fellowships than ACGME fellowships since those programs would probably prefer AOA trained residents!
There are numerous ACGME fellowship programs that would kill for a DO or anyone who has a license and speaks English to apply to their programs.
The same way that not all allopathic schools are created equal, not all ACGME residencies/fellowships are created equal. So, just going to an ACGME program is not the only requirement for getting an ACGME fellowship. But again, as I have stated previously, if you "just" want a residency/fellowship with little to no interest in opportunities for research/academics then you are very likely to get one!
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To answer the original question posted, yes it is possible to do an ACGME residency then an AOA fellowship. You may have to jump through hoops as mentioned above. It is actually easier in many ways to just apply for ACGME fellowships though. Depending on competitiveness a good amount of DO applicants match into ACGME fellowships yearly. The NRMP site has the stats for osteopathic applicants if you want actual data.
You do not have to have passed this exam in order to apply to or start a fellowship. Once you start fellowship you typically take it that first year.
I am a GI fellow at an osteopathic program and we have multiple fellows in all of our fellowships that have graduated from allopathic programs. It is surely a possibility. For GI & Pulm/CC there are limited spots so it is still difficult but not out of reach. good luck.
You will find a DO in any specialty. With that said, it is extremely difficult for anyone to get an allopathic GI fellowship. Being an osteopathic graduate does make it more difficult. The DOs that you find at any allopathic GI or even pulm/cc fellowship are usually quite exceptional.
This is not true. This is completely dependent on the program. My GI PD cares less where you did your training. I have also heard of a few Michigan programs that frequently accept allopathic-trained candidates.
If you are talking about endocrinology....maybe. In regards to GI and pulm/cc, this statement is 100% false.
