do i need to retake a D+ in bio?

[equityrange]

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so i got a D+ in bio I a few semesters ago. do i need to retake this since med school want to see C or better?

also, i took Slavic Literature, and i'm not sure if that counts as English. So i'm planning to take ENG courses at local community college. is that ok? i attend a 4 year university fwiw.

 

[ksmi117]

Yes, retake it. And no, Slavic literature wouldn't count as English since it's not in English.

 

[orthomyxo]

Definitely retake that Bio course!!

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Yes, retake it. And no, Slavic literature wouldn't count as English since it's not in English.

yes.. cuz this guy understands russian,ukranian, slovakian, finish. we read crime and punishment and tolstov in russian not english ... and they have never ever discovered a proper device to translate the former languages into english

yes you retake bio over the summer get A! anything below a C in a pre-req is equated to a failure

 

[ksmi117]

yes.. cuz this guy understands russian,ukranian, slovakian, finish... and they have never ever discovered a proper device to translate the former languages into english

Regardless of whether he translates it to English, it's not an English course.

 

[theWUbear]

Similar question...I got a D+ in Bio 1 a few years ago. However, I have an A in cell bio and an A in microbio. I'm taking neurobio, immunology, A&P next semester. Leave that D+ alone, or retake?

 

[ksmi117]

Similar question...I got a D+ in Bio 1 a few years ago. However, I have an A in cell bio and an A in microbio. I'm taking neurobio, immunology, A&P next semester. Leave that D+ alone, or retake?

Retake it.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Regardless of whether he translates it to English, it's not an English course.

So when my english teacher who teachs litt of the world EN218 makes us read Tolsov, art of war, Voltaire, crime and punishment.. we're no longer taking a english class..

 

[tennisball80]

Similar question...I got a D+ in Bio 1 a few years ago. However, I have an A in cell bio and an A in microbio. I'm taking neurobio, immunology, A&P next semester. Leave that D+ alone, or retake?

How did you get an A in cell bio and an A in microbio with a D+ in freshman chemistry?

I thought you need a good understating of basic things before going further.

 

[equityrange]

so is taking the ENG prereq at a CC acceptable? can it be any ENG, even ENG 1?i dont want to take it at my university because of graduation/unit issues.

 

[AlanAlanine]

And no, Slavic literature wouldn't count as English since it's not in English.

This would be true if Slavic Literature were actually not taught in English. Otherwise, I'd have to disagree. Many reading/writing courses are not titled "English #" e.g. Slavic 5A. At my school Slavic Literature will fulfill a reading/writing requirement just as an English class would. When med schools list their English requirement, they often state that classes with a substantial reading/writing component fulfill the requirement. I'd say it's fine, especially if it counts toward your college's reading/writing requirement.

and re: your last question, OP, english at a CC is fine.

 

[ksmi117]

So when my english teacher who teachs litt of the world EN218 makes us read Tolsov, art of war, Voltaire, crime and punishment.. we're no longer taking a english class..

Dude, what's your problem? All I'm saying is that if the stuff you're physically reading in the literature class is in English, it's an English class. If you're reading books in Russian, it's a Russian class. Hell, if it's in Vulcan, it's a Vulcan class.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Dude, what's your problem? All I'm saying is that if the stuff you're physically reading in the literature class is in English, it's an English class. If you're reading books in Russian, it's a Russian class. Hell, if it's in Vulcan, it's a Vulcan class.

no problem but you kinda just looped..
you before said even if the books translated its not english
now your saying if your reading a book written in english then everything is alright.

i dont mean to be offensive or anything
im just saying many of the famous books we read in english were once writen in different languages
like crime and punishment was originally in russian, but in 1930 was translated into english and hailed as one of the most famous books in the world and read by most english comp classes in my state.

again.. im not trying to be pompus im just trying to put my point across.

 

[orthomyxo]

Dude, what's your problem? All I'm saying is that if the stuff you're physically reading in the literature class is in English, it's an English class. If you're reading books in Russian, it's a Russian class. Hell, if it's in Vulcan, it's a Vulcan class.

I think I'd have to agree with this.

 

[ksmi117]

I have to disagree. Many reading/writing courses are not titled "English #". At my school Slavic Literature will fulfill a reading/writing requirement just as an English class would. When med schools list their English requirement, they often state that classes with a substantial reading/writing component fulfill the requirement. I'd say it's fine, especially if it counts toward your college's reading/writing requirement.

The reason they have an English requirement is to make sure you are capable of communicating in English. I'm pretty sure it means substantial reading/writing in English.

According to AMCAS (http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/amcas2010instructions080409.pdf), you would classify foreign language literature classes as "Foreign Language/Linguistics/Lit." You would classify the ones that fulfill the req. as "English Language and Literature."

 

[ksmi117]

no problem but you kinda just looped..
you before said even if the books translated its not english
now your saying if your reading a book written in english then everything is alright.

i dont mean to be offensive or anything
im just saying many of the famous books we read in english were once writen in different languages
like crime and punishment was originally in russian, but in 1930 was translated into english and hailed as one of the most famous books in the world and read by most english comp classes in my state.

again.. im not trying to be pompus im just trying to put my point across.

I said if he translated it himself (but the book itself is still in another language), it's not English.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I said if he translated it himself (but the book itself is still in another language), it's not English.

on this i can agree..

 

[ksmi117]

so is taking the ENG prereq at a CC acceptable? can it be any ENG, even ENG 1?i dont want to take it at my university because of graduation/unit issues.

That should be fine, just be ready to answer questions about the CC in an interview. I don't think it'll be a huge problem. I think a lot of schools require two English courses, though.

 

[ksmi117]

Ok, let me clarify, if the books you read in the Slavic literature were actually in English, then yes, it's an English class. If the books are in a Slavic langauge, it's not. Are we all on the same page now?

I suppose it's silly of me to assume that the OP would be able to understand Slavic languages, but I guess I wouldn't expect someone to think that an English literature class doesn't count as English. Oops. 😳

 

[equityrange]

Ok, let me clarify, if the books you read in the Slavic literature were actually in English, then yes, it's an English class. If the books are in a Slavic langauge, it's not. Are we all on the same page now?

I suppose it's silly of me to assume that the OP would be able to understand Slavic languages, but I guess I wouldn't expect someone to think that an English literature class doesn't count as English. Oops. 😳

Ok sorry for the confusion. my Slavic Literature class is all in English. All the books/lectures/discussion/papers were in English. It completed my university's 1year of reading and composition requirement. On the transcript it says, SLAVIC - READING AND COMPREHENSION. it does not says ENG

Its just that i saw this link http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/amcas2010instructions080409.pdf and thought that Slavic Literature would be considered foreign language/linguistics/literature(FLAN page 54).

So conclusion is that Slavic Literature is most likely ENG right, even though its not in the ENG department?

 

[ksmi117]

Ok sorry for the confusion. my Slavic Literature class is all in English. All the books/lectures/discussion/papers were in English. It completed my university's 1year of reading and composition requirement. On the transcript it says, SLAVIC - READING AND COMPREHENSION. it does not says ENG

Its just that i saw this link http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/amcas2010instructions080409.pdf and thought that Slavic Literature would be considered foreign language/linguistics/literature(FLAN page 54).

So conclusion is that Slavic Literature is most likely ENG right, even though its not in the ENG department?

Yes, I'd classify it as English.

 

[WashMe]

so i got a D+ in bio I a few semesters ago. do i need to retake this since med school want to see C or better?

also, i took Slavic Literature, and i'm not sure if that counts as English. So i'm planning to take ENG courses at local community college. is that ok? i attend a 4 year university fwiw.

Similar question...I got a D+ in Bio 1 a few years ago. However, I have an A in cell bio and an A in microbio. I'm taking neurobio, immunology, A&P next semester. Leave that D+ alone, or retake?

Neither one of you has to retake those classes.







Unless you want to get into medical school. Ok, that was harsh and maybe not true. It depends on why you got the bad grades.

I will say, though-- sometimes retaking a class that is part of a series requires you to retake the subsequent courses in the series, even if you already passed them. For instance, if I had retaken o-chem 2 (which I almost did) during, say, my senior year, I would have had to retake o-chem 3 again for credit even though I did really well in it as a sophomore.

 

[nonsciencemajor]

i would go on with bio II for now and make sure you get an A in the class. Get done with the pre-req's before senior year!

That does not mean you will not have to retake Bio I. However, retake it between the summer of your junior and senior year after having completed all the pre-req's.

Also make sure from now on, you do well in all the other science pre-req's.

 

[nonsciencemajor]

Similar question...I got a D+ in Bio 1 a few years ago. However, I have an A in cell bio and an A in microbio. I'm taking neurobio, immunology, A&P next semester. Leave that D+ alone, or retake?

I hate to say this, but I strongly believe that the most important courses med schools look at is general bio, chem, orgo, and physics. These introductory science courses I think are even more important than upper level science courses.

For example, look at SUNY Upstate. On their FAQ admissions page (http://www.upstate.edu/com/admissions/faqs.php) they write,

" Can other science courses like Bio Chem or Microbiology be used to complete your pre-requisites? No. We will not accept any other science courses as substitutions for our required pre-requisites." (http://www.upstate.edu/com/admissions/faqs.php)



Why? I think this is because nonscience majors like me only do these required courses, and these courses are the best way to standardize applicants from all majors. Non-science majors are not held accountable for not having taken upper level science courses since these courses are not REQUIRED, but any applicant (regardless of major), is expected to do well in the REQUIRED courses which generally includes general bio I.

I would highly recommend retaking this course. But in the summer between your junior and senior year. This way the retake grade will show up when applying to medical schools, and this timing will not delay your application in any way.

 

[lkorovin]

yes.. cuz this guy understands russian,ukranian, slovakian, finish. we read crime and punishment and tolstov in russian not english ... and they have never ever discovered a proper device to translate the former languages into english

yes you retake bio over the summer get A! anything below a C in a pre-req is equated to a failure

Silly, Finnish isn't a Slavic language, it's a Finno-Ugric language. Furthermore, he's Tolstoy, not Tolstov!

 

[riverjib]

If you got less than a C in a pre-med course, I'm pretty sure you have no choice but to retake it and make sure you do really well. Upper-level science courses help, but aren't counted into your BCPM GPA.

 

[Evergrey]

At any rate, D+ is technically a failing grade (med schools won't give you credit for it right? or am I offbase here?). You must retake it and get a passing grade.

 

[ksmi117]

If you got less than a C in a pre-med course, I'm pretty sure you have no choice but to retake it and make sure you do really well. Upper-level science courses help, but aren't counted into your BCPM GPA.

Not true. Every science/math course you take is counted in your BCPM GPA.

 

[Geekchick921]

Neither one of you has to retake those classes.

Unless you want to get into medical school. Ok, that was harsh and maybe not true. It depends on why you got the bad grades.

I will say, though-- sometimes retaking a class that is part of a series requires you to retake the subsequent courses in the series, even if you already passed them. For instance, if I had retaken o-chem 2 (which I almost did) during, say, my senior year, I would have had to retake o-chem 3 again for credit even though I did really well in it as a sophomore.

I thought the same thing when I read the title.

 

[Everglide]

At any rate, D+ is technically a failing grade (med schools won't give you credit for it right? or am I offbase here?). You must retake it and get a passing grade.

That's what I came here to say and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned earlier.

I thought most schools required pre-reqs to have a minimum 2.0 to even count, let alone be competitive. D+ being less than 2.0? (I don't know +/- letter grades tbh)