DO Internships

[jcr_massage]

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I have heard allot of people talking about a one year internship after graduation before they went into their residency. Yesterday a D.O / Hospitalist came to my school to discuss her job and her education and even she mentioned that after graduation from wvcom I think, she did a 1 year internship before doing a internal medicine residency. Are D.O's required to do a one year inernship before entering residency? Or is that part optional?

Blessings
Bodyworksweety

 

[OSUdoc08]

I have heard allot of people talking about a one year internship after graduation before they went into their residency. Yesterday a D.O / Hospitalist came to my school to discuss her job and her education and even she mentioned that after graduation from wvcom I think, she did a 1 year internship before doing a internal medicine residency. Are D.O's required to do a one year inernship before entering residency? Or is that part optional?

Blessings
Bodyworksweety

It depends on the specialty. Orthopedic surgery and neurology don't have to do one for example. All of the primary care specialties do.

This is only required, however, if you do an AOA residency and/or you want to be licensed/certified by the AOA.

If you do an ACGME residency, and do not want to be part of the AOA, then you do not have to do this. This does exclude you from practicing in the 5 states that require AOA. however.

Here is an example:

AOA Emergency medicine residency: 1 year of linked specialty emphasis internship + 3 years of residency = 4 years

ACGME Emergency medicine residency = 3 years of residency

 

[Jezzielin]

Here is an example:

AOA Emergency medicine residency: 1 year of linked specialty emphasis internship + 3 years of residency = 4 years

ACGME Emergency medicine residency = 3 years of residency

Do you know what states? that ACGME keeps you from practicing in?

 

[community]

It is not absolutely required. There is now a resolution you can apply for 2-3 months before you start your ACGME residency program, where you can petition for the AOA to have your first year of the ACGME residency program count as your rotating internship. You can get more info on this on:

http://www.do-online.osteotech.org/

I hope this helps!

 

[OSUdoc08]

Do you know what states? that ACGME keeps you from practicing in?

Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Florida
West Virgina

You can still do an ACGME residency and practice in these states. You simply must do an AOA internship year prior to entering the ACGME residency.

 

[jcr_massage]

So that means that if I did family practice, internal medicine or peds which is where my interests are then I would end up eith 1 year internship and 3 years residency right? I'm not real familiar with residency requirements but I think that those are all normally 3 year ones right?

Blessings
bodyworksweety

 

[OSUdoc08]

So that means that if I did family practice, internal medicine or peds which is where my interests are then I would end up eith 1 year internship and 3 years residency right? I'm not real familiar with residency requirements but I think that those are all normally 3 year ones right?

Blessings
bodyworksweety

Yes,

FM, IM, PEDS, & EM = 1 year internship + 3 years residency with AOA

 

[DrMom]

Yes,

FM, IM, PEDS, & EM = 1 year internship + 3 years residency with AOA

Actually, most FM, IM, & Peds programs meet the qualifications of the AOA intern year, so you generally don't have to do any extra time in residency. Instead you can apply to the AOA to have your ACGME intern year count as your AOA intern year. Also, a number of FM programs are dually accredited which means that the AOA already accepts the intern year.


Also, for clarification, the 5 states that require the osteopathic internship do not do this because the ACGME has anything to do with it. It is the osteopathic community who has set the requirement.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Actually, most FM, IM, & Peds programs meet the qualifications of the AOA intern year, so you generally don't have to do any extra time in residency. Instead you can apply to the AOA to have your ACGME intern year count as your AOA intern year. Also, a number of FM programs are dually accredited which means that the AOA already accepts the intern year.


Also, for clarification, the 5 states that require the osteopathic internship do not do this because the ACGME has anything to do with it. It is the osteopathic community who has set the requirement.

Could you do this if an AOA residency was available in the same area as the ACGME residency?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Could you do this if an AOA residency was available in the same area as the ACGME residency?

I think so. I know someone who went to OSUCOM and did an fp residency at OU and got her internship year at OU to count for the requirement. Since she was in Tulsa, it's not like there was a shortage of AOA internships in the area.

 

[DrMom]

Could you do this if an AOA residency was available in the same area as the ACGME residency?

In the past I would have said yes, but this past summer the AOA got stricter with some of the applications for resolution 42 and declined at least some because they *could* have done a residency in the same geographic area in the same specialty.

At this point, if you want to work in one of the 5 states, I'd recommend against doing an ACGME residency within 90 miles of an AOA residency in the same specialty. Things change...who knows what standards they'll use in coming years.

 

[DrMom]

I think so. I know someone who went to OSUCOM and did an fp residency at OU and got her internship year at OU to count for the requirement. Since she was in Tulsa, it's not like there was a shortage of AOA internships in the area.

The OU family medicine program in Tulsa is dually accredited, so it counts as doing an AOA internship.