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Wait, it's 2010 and you want me to think for myself?

Nonsense. I'll let the media, and in this case, SDN, tell me what I should do.

Yeah there are way too many people that just regurgitate what they hear on the news. I heard one person Say I motherf****n hate Obama.

So I ask them why do u hate him? (I'm not Obama fan either)

Response: Uh………….. and then they gave me some bs because they didn't even know why they hate him. They weren't even smart enough pull the card "he's a socialist" or even worse, he's a bloody red communist.

You'll get the same response on the other side the spectrum why one hates GW.

I sure wish people would use that thing god gave them called a brain more often, and think for themselves.
 
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4. For those going to USN and don't know what to believe then I encourage you to ask USN students to list 5 things that they like about the school and see what you get. Do this at the interview!!!!! I would be shock if anyone can list 5 things with ease. "Group work" doesn't count because no one likes group work at that school. Its just busy work that waste time. Also "non-competitive nature" doesn't count because drug charts are shared to help those with summers not get kicked out. Its an us verses them attitude at that school.

I want to wish everyone the best of luck on there future endeavors, Whatever they may be.

I don't think I could even name 3 things I liked about undergrad haha. Umm..the fact that I didn't have to work a crappy full time job that I hated and could make my classes in the afternoons is what I did like. Other than that, I don't really like school..do you?

There's way more stuff I DIDN'T like..(gen-eds, idiot lab partners using needles to innocculate cultures on plates and poking 590386t09328 holes in the media, parking 5 miles away and hiking up a huge hill and sweating by the time I got to class...on and on)

This is true of any person currently in school or working. Who REALLY wants to be in school, or working? I'd rather be sitting on a beach drinking till I passed out everyday, but its not realistic...
 
All I've gathered is that OP thinks the curriculum is too hard... well, I say cry more! :cry:
 
OP. sigh. you're doing it all wrong sweetie.

to be effective, you only need to warn us ONCE. not 5, 10 times. People desensitize you know.
 
I want to make a couple of comments then I really need to stop posting and study.

1. Those people not at USN or planning on going to USN need to get off this thread and find something better to do. This matter does not concern you!!!!!

2. I speak the truth and those people who don't believe me will find out after the first few months that USN is not what it seems. I am only giving people the warning that I wish I had received.

3. Everyone studies everyday period. Those who say otherwise are lying. As everyone on this thread says this is a professional program and of course you have to study. Don't let people fool you into thinking this is easy because its not.

4. For those going to USN and don't know what to believe then I encourage you to ask USN students to list 5 things that they like about the school and see what you get. Do this at the interview!!!!! I would be shock if anyone can list 5 things with ease. "Group work" doesn't count because no one likes group work at that school. Its just busy work that waste time. Also "non-competitive nature" doesn't count because drug charts are shared to help those with summers not get kicked out. Its an us verses them attitude at that school.

I want to wish everyone the best of luck on there future endeavors, Whatever they may be.

You keep making these sweeping generalizations. I don't study everyday. I get my three day weekends every time so I skip studying on the Friday after the exam and usually two out of my three days off and sometimes all three. I also usually skip studying on the Thursday before our IPPE and I almost never study on that Friday. I do very light studying on the weekend unless it feels like a harder exam and sometimes I take another whole day off from studying. So in a two week period, I typically take off about five or six days out of fourteen.

How do I manage this? I don't waste time recopying notes and I generally skip making flash cards unless they decide to make me learn 150+ drugs for one exam and then I'll cave. If the material is a bit more challenging, I find a chart in my email. How cool is that?

Plus the exams are multiple choice. The answer is right there in front of you. Sometimes you only have to know that the drug starts with an F or ends with pril to get the right answer. If I ran the school, I'd totally ban the whole testing format because being able to recognize an answer on the page in front of you isn't the same as being able to reproduce an answer. I had to do that for my undergrad work. Multiple choice exams are easy compared to that.

Maybe I'm the only person in the whole school who takes days off from studying but I doubt it. Before I applied to USN, I remember reading a post by this student who was talking about how easy the school was. I'll have to dig it up. But I don't mean to mislead anyone. Some find USN to be very hard; others not so much. I fall into the latter category.

Oh and here is my top five in no particular order:

1. Three day weekends!!! I love my three day weekends.
2. Multiple choice exams and almost nothing else besides an IPPE assignment that I do at the pharmacy. I never dreamed that school would be show up to class, study and take an exam. I was expecting much more busy work. It is like a dream school for a slacker like me who tests well.
3. Drug charts in my email. This does count because it saves me time and that makes me happy because I can take whole days off from studying.
4. Regular, predictable exams with no crazy midterm and finals weeks.
5. Students are so friendly unlike those people who want to stab you in the back at my alma mater.

I also like the daily quizzes with no penalty whatsoever if you miss answers. It tells you what kind of questions the prof asks so you get an idea if you need to know every minor detail on a slide or just the main concepts. That's another time saver. I also love the block system. You only have to worry about one topic at a time so you can focus better. Plus if they finish lecturing early, you get that time off. There have been a surprising amount of days that we were done by noon. Ooh, and I forgot the no textbook thing. I hated, hated, hated buying those overpriced textbooks every semester. Now I don't have to.

See, making that list wasn't so hard.
 
Ah, here is the post I was talking about from a couple of years ago. I study more than this guy but I believe that he was telling the truth. People can have completely different experiences at the same school depending on how easily they pick up information.

Hey guys, just wanted to update you on my experience so far as a pharmacy student at University of Southern Nevada. I am a couple months away from finishing my first year of pharmacy school!! That means i am HALFWAY done with lectures, yup 3 year programs ROCK!

First, I'll tell you a little bit about the school. USN is ACCREDITED and is a 3 year school. The school operates in a block format, which makes it freaken easy for you and me. If you dont know what this is, basically, instead of taking 5+ courses simultaneously during the semester like undergrad, you divide the semester into 5 blocks (2-3 weeks/block). During those 2 weeks, all you do is study ONE class, subject. Sounds hard, nope, very very easy. After the end of those 2 or 3 weeks, you take an exam. Once you pass it, YOU NEVER worry about that subject again. Did i tell you all the exams are multiple choice? And no grading system, just PASS or NO PASS. Then after taking the test, you start the next series or course on the following Tuesday. YUp, 3 day weekend every other week. Also, it is IMPOSSIBLE to fail and get kicked out. You literally have to quit yourself and say I want to do something else. You get like infinite chances to pass. The mult choice tests are straightforward, no tricky, and if you attempted to study, you will get it. So once im done with my exam, i go back to socal where i live and party hard and not have to worry about a single thing because i have completed a course and the next doesnt start til tuesday. So once you've finished the first year, school ends around MAY. You then do 6 weeks of intern work (for me, i chose to do it back in socal where im from). you can do it anywhere you want. AFter you finish those 6 weeks, you then have about 2 months summer vacation! Seriously, i did not think a 3 year school allowed this but i was wrong. Then you go back to school in late August and teh cycle starts again. Then thrid year, you do rotations and you are then DONE!!

My Daily Life: I go to school 8-3pm, with 1 hr lunch. In class, i sleep, play internet games, chat to friends, talk to friends, talk in discussion groups for 20 mins about pharmacy then other subjects. I go home at 3 and then do whatever i want for the rest of the night. No studying is done until a couple days before the exam. For me, i can memorize well, for others, they study for 30mins and then hit the shopping center, go out for dinner, catch a movie, do their hobbies, whatever. Vegas is lively so there's a lot to do. Then on the Friday of exam, i take exam and then go back to socal and spend weekend 3 days with my family. Cycle repeats.

THE ADVANTAGES 3 years, and I'm done. I will get out and work for 120K/year. That is the going rate in Vegas and nearby places. Im freaken serious. Dont believe me, just message me and we can talk about this more and i can PROVE this to you. One of the third year at our schools just got a job offer for 110K with 10k signing bonus at a local retail. So while I get 120k, my friends at UCSD, UCSF, or other 4 year cali schools are still doing their rotations. Worse, they PAY 35K to the school for tuition while I get 120K!!!! That's 155K differential and lost for them! They also do more studying, more hours in school, more stress, while we all basically learn the same stuff! Think about this a lot of the stuff they learn they are NOT going to remember it. It's just for knowledge and you DO NOT USE IT EVER again in pharmacy. Why waste your time learning it. USN just teaches you the important stuff and skips the minute details that you dont need. Also, retailers or people generally DO NOT CARE where you went to school. Sure, UCSF is great, you will get a very good education, but I have not met one pharmacist who needs to know physical chemistry (one of the course in ucsf pharm) to do well on the job EVER. Sure, it's good to know but dont you think it's just a waste of time? If you decide to become a researcher then MAYBE you need it but by that time, you aint gonna remember anything anyways. So it's just a WASTE OF TIME!!!! Also, 100% of USN grads passed the pharm test so no, that means we do learn what we need to know and can perform the job. No diss to UC's and other schools but, why owe 200k for 4 yrs and learn BS stuff you dont need when you pay 90K and graduate in 3 yrs and then make 120K and you basically can pay off tuition in a year! Well, that is my long update.

P.S. H.S. GPA 2.6, SAT 910, College GPA 3.2, USN PASS without difficulty/stress = PRICELESS
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=258934&highlight=usn
 
Good to know that USN is not as difficult that the OP makes it out to be.

But on a side note, umm that person had a 910 SAT score?? I had a 1350 and I thought mine was a bit on the low side.
 
Ah, here is the post I was talking about from a couple of years ago. I study more than this guy but I believe that he was telling the truth. People can have completely different experiences at the same school depending on how easily they pick up information.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=258934&highlight=usn

This was back before they started to count remediations. Up until 2004 or 2005, Monday remediation use to be an all day lecture with no test at the end. Obviously they changed that. Now you are lucky if you pass on Monday. No group points and a much harder test than Friday. And there have been multiple test p1 year were there has been HUNDREDS (try 300) of drugs. I cannot believe that you have not had a test with that many drugs. 150 drugs would be a pleasure. Also, there are 2 to 3 courses ran separately throughout the year with there own test and projects plus a counted cumulative final at the end. Frankly, I question whether or not you even go to USN. And I love how everyone is calling me stupid on here. Here's a question for you......if I am so dumb why would you want to go to a school that accepted someone as stupid as me???????????
 
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You think by partying on the strip can pass you any other pharmacy program? Seriously, you went to USN because you thought you could party on the strip all the time? USN really made a wrong decision by admitting you! If you don't realize how ridiculous you sound, I really hope you are the one getting kicked out so you won't harm other people as a pharmacist.

I went to USN because I thought it would be a good school......WRONG!!!!!! For some students it was a deciding factor. Many thought that they would pass their test (the interview leads you to believe that this is the case every time), get a 3 day weekend, and party on the strip. Who doesn't want to spend there 20s on the strip. Students turned down some really prestigious schools to go to USN and kick themselves everyday for doing so. However, I am certainly glad that someone as "diligent, brilliant, and hard working" like yourself can comment on something that doesn't concern you.
 
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I can't believe all the conspiracy theories over this post! Get a life people!! Honestly, if anyone here cared enough to really find out if he's USN crapping or a student, why not ask identifying questions (Whats the room number of a random pharmacy lab?).

Seems like everyone here is more interested in their own opinions and less interested in what the thread was actually meant for. Leave the OP alone unless you have something viable to add to this conversation!
 
This was back before they started to count remediations. Up until 2004 or 2005, Monday remediation use to be an all day lecture with no test at the end. Obviously they changed that. Now you are lucky if you pass on Monday. No group points and a much harder test than Friday. And there have been multiple test p1 year were there has been HUNDREDS (try 300) of drugs. I cannot believe that you have not had a test with that many drugs. 150 drugs would be a pleasure. Also, there are 2 to 3 courses ran separately throughout the year with there own test and projects plus a counted cumulative final at the end. Frankly, I question whether or not you even go to USN. And I love how everyone is calling me stupid on here. Here's a question for you......if I am so dumb why would you want to go to a school that accepted someone as stupid as me???????????

Oh sure, I'm making the whole thing up. I have over one thousand posts, including ones where I talked about applying to USN, getting interviewed by USN, being accepted by USN, and attending USN. You, on the other hand, just started an account to bash USN. If anything, people should be questioning whether or not you are a student there. I'm a P1 and I don't remember any exams with 300 drugs on it. There was a Ziance exam with maybe 200 drugs but that was an anomaly. Most exams have far less drugs than that.

If you are a real student, you find USN to be hard. We get it but not everyone finds it that difficult like you claim. Future students should know that they might have to study all the time but they might not. If a person picks up information quickly and likes multiple choice exams, USN is not hard, at least in the P1 year. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is easy because you do need to put in the necessary time but I walk into every exam knowing I'm going to pass and get a three day weekend. How many schools out there reward you with time off for passing an exam? That part totally rocks.
 
Oh sure, I'm making the whole thing up. I have over one thousand posts, including ones where I talked about applying to USN, getting interviewed by USN, being accepted by USN, and attending USN. You, on the other hand, just started an account to bash USN. If anything, people should be questioning whether or not you are a student there. I'm a P1 and I don't remember any exams with 300 drugs on it. There was a Ziance exam with maybe 200 drugs but that was an anomaly. Most exams have far less drugs than that.

If you are a real student, you find USN to be hard. We get it but not everyone finds it that difficult like you claim. Future students should know that they might have to study all the time but they might not. If a person picks up information quickly and likes multiple choice exams, USN is not hard, at least in the P1 year. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is easy because you do need to put in the necessary time but I walk into every exam knowing I'm going to pass and get a three day weekend. How many schools out there reward you with time off for passing an exam? That part totally rocks.

This is true. Although I'm not a student at USN, my friend who is a P1 student did confirm that there was an exam with about 200 drugs, but not 300. It was back in January right?
 
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This is true. Although I'm not a student at USN, my friend who is a P1 student did confirm that there was an exam with about 200 drugs, but not 300. It was back in January right?

I think it was December. The blocks sort of all blend together now but I'm pretty sure it was before our winter break.
 
I went to USN because I thought it would be a good school......WRONG!!!!!! For some students it was a deciding factor. Many thought that they would pass their test (the interview leads you to believe that this is the case every time), get a 3 day weekend, and party on the strip. Who doesn't want to spend there 20s on the strip. Students turned down some really prestigious schools to go to USN and kick themselves everyday for doing so. However, I am certainly glad that someone as "diligent, brilliant, and hard working" like yourself can comment on something that doesn't concern you.
Yes Dr. Deyoung did say in the interview if you pass Friday test you will get a 3 day weekend. But if you believe this means everyone should get a 3 day weekend, then you really have problem comprehend. If everyone can pass Friday, why do they have Monday Reassessment? Also for majority of the Friday Assessment, only 10% to 20% of people don't pass. You have to be the bottom 10% to 20% to fail a test. Everyone can figure out here that you don't have to be "diligent, brilliant and hard working" to have the three day weekends. Maybe you should spend your 20s partying on the strip. Come back to Pharmacy school when you are ready to study.
 
Yes Dr. Deyoung did say in the interview if you pass Friday test you will get a 3 day weekend. But if you believe this means everyone should get a 3 day weekend, then you really have problem comprehend. If everyone can pass Friday, why do they have Monday Reassessment? Also for majority of the Friday Assessment, only 10% to 20% of people don't pass. You have to be the bottom 10% to 20% to fail a test. Everyone can figure out here that you don't have to be "diligent, brilliant and hard working" to have the three day weekends. Maybe you should spend your 20s partying on the strip. Come back to Pharmacy school when you are ready to study.

Half the p1 class will remediate the first and second test and a lot of summers will go out!!!! The bottom 10 to 20%???? Remediation can happen to anyone. There is no such thing as a curve at USN so I don't even know where you got that. I do not expect to pass every time, but there are people in class who did not expect to remediate all the time!!!! I also said that I wasn't one of the people who wanted to party on the strip so I don't know why you are stuck on that concept. On average, 30 people will remediate a test. Some test will be more and some will be less, and most will remediate over 1 or 2 badly written questions that the class thought was unclear, but the teacher thought was clear even with the high miss rate. Since you obviously have no brain, i would highly recommend that you don't go to USN because you will fail out your first year.
 
1.. .I am a current student. Admission phone calls don’t go out until the first of April and the waitlist follows. How can I be an angry person on the waitlist if the waitlist isn’t out?
2.. .USN is not easy and don’t let anyone fool you to believe otherwise. IF you have an easy time p1 year, doesn’t mean that easy time will continue p2 year. The current p3 class lost 5 people their p2 year. At least 10 will graduate 12 weeks late because they could not pass there summers and had to take the test a fourth time during the school year. Those 10 are the lucky ones because p1s that can’t pass their test in the summer are held back an entire year!!!!!!!!!! The current p2 class lost a few people due to that. Who knows what will happen to the p1 class. All I know is that they never mentioned that at the interview. That “3year program” can quickly become 4.
3.. .I never said anything about SATS…..reread my post.
4.. .I said more about USN than the test being hard and partying on the strip…..go reread the post.
5.. .I really don’t care if anyone believes me. Those that do are smart and those that don’t will find out what USN is about when they start.
6.. .Why does my post count matter and how does having more post counts make someone more credible than me……..it doesn’t. No one knows who anybody is or that they are what they say they are!!!!!! Why would post count mater?????
7.. .Once again, if you are not a student or applying to USN get out of this thread. Why are you wasting your time commenting on things that don’t concern you?
 
all my vegas friends avoid the strip like the plague, haha... I usually go to the M resort when I'm there anyway, the strip is for losers sometimes.

But yeah... other schools, I think a minimum 10% attrition rate is normal.

And whoever made the assumption that USN grads stay in NV obviously has never spent time in Vegas/NV... most of the grads will leave and go to your state, easy.
 
Half the p1 class will remediate the first and second test and a lot of summers will go out!!!! The bottom 10 to 20%???? Remediation can happen to anyone. There is no such thing as a curve at USN so I don't even know where you got that. I do not expect to pass every time, but there are people in class who did not expect to remediate all the time!!!! I also said that I wasn't one of the people who wanted to party on the strip so I don't know why you are stuck on that concept. On average, 30 people will remediate a test. Some test will be more and some will be less, and most will remediate over 1 or 2 badly written questions that the class thought was unclear, but the teacher thought was clear even with the high miss rate. Since you obviously have no brain, i would highly recommend that you don't go to USN because you will fail out your first year.
You really don't know how to comprehend. I said majority of the assessments have 10-20%. First and second tests may have half of the class coming back, but that's not majority of the tests! You said 30 people on average, so 30/145 is roughly 20%. USN doesn't curve, but it doesn't mean there is no bottom 20% on each test. I know a lot of people never had remediation so it doesn't happen to everyone!
 
I would think that the exams at USN are designed for the straight A student in mind (3.7+ gpa).

thus if you've been working your butt off and only pulling in 3.5's or less as an undergrad then you will have trouble on the exams compared to yoru classmates who's gpa is 3.7 (since that is the average and I'd think the deviation isn't much due to the way scoring is done to gain acceptance)

imagine looking back at your undergrad courses in which you got 3.5's. ask yourself how much harder do you thikn you would have to work to get that 3.7 for all the science classes you took. That is how much effort you're going to have to put in for every exam at USN.
If you've been pulling 3.7's with ease then your transition will be fine. otherwise they may have picked the wrong person for the curriculum so you shouldn't complain about how hard it is at USN.

OP what is your undergrad GPA and major?
 
You really don't know how to comprehend. I said majority of the assessments have 10-20%. First and second tests may have half of the class coming back, but that's not majority of the tests! You said 30 people on average, so 30/145 is roughly 20%. USN doesn't curve, but it doesn't mean there is no bottom 20% on each test. I know a lot of people never had remediation so it doesn't happen to everyone!

30/140 is a little over 20%. I make it out of 140 to account for all the students lost over the year so far, although the class has lost more this year than that. Your past post make it sound like its more like 10%, which it isn't. Also, let me break down the numbers more. Of those "20%" remediating about 50-75% will pass. That means that out of the entire class, 5-10% will get a summer for a given test on average. With the schools 5 summers then your out policy, I don't like those odds, especially since there is no such thing as "weak" people remediating only. Remediating is nondiscriminatory....everybody is at risk! Also, I would bet that by the time students graduate only 5% have made it through without remediating and at least 50% has had 1 summer. This last part is just speculation though. I don't know the real stats. This is what I have heard from students more in the know than me. I hope you are able to comprehend that!
 
30/140 is a little over 20%. I make it out of 140 to account for all the students lost over the year so far, although the class has lost more this year than that. Your past post make it sound like its more like 10%, which it isn't. Also, let me break down the numbers more. Of those "20%" remediating about 50-75% will pass. That means that out of the entire class, 5-10% will get a summer for a given test on average. With the schools 5 summers then your out policy, I don't like those odds, especially since there is no such thing as "weak" people remediating only. Remediating is nondiscriminatory....everybody is at risk! Also, I would bet that by the time students graduate only 5% have made it through without remediating and at least 50% has had 1 summer. This last part is just speculation though. I don't know the real stats. This is what I have heard from students more in the know than me. I hope you are able to comprehend that!
First of all, your stats are biased because you believe everybody is at risk. I would say at least 50% of students never come back on Monday. They study hard and don't whine about it. They know what it takes to go through a pharmacy school. Second of all, 5-10% getting summer is not bad. Other pharmacy schools have about 10% attrition rate too! Those odds are there in any school no matter you like it or not. Lastly, grow up! No pharmacy school is easy. Paying 40k per year doesn't mean you can just buy your diploma and don't need to do any work!
 
First of all, your stats are biased because you believe everybody is at risk. I would say at least 50% of students never come back on Monday. They study hard and don't whine about it. They know what it takes to go through a pharmacy school. Second of all, 5-10% getting summer is not bad. Other pharmacy schools have about 10% attrition rate too! Those odds are there in any school no matter you like it or not. Lastly, grow up! No pharmacy school is easy. Paying 40k per year doesn't mean you can just buy your diploma and don't need to do any work!

If I pay 40k, there is nothing wrong with expecting good teachers, and a highly professional atmosphere.

The school with 20 students drop out in the first semester really give me a bad impression.
 
1.I am a current student. Admission phone calls don’t go out until the first of April and the waitlist follows. How can I be an angry person on the waitlist if the waitlist isn’t out?
2.USN is not easy and don’t let anyone fool you to believe otherwise. IF you have an easy time p1 year, doesn’t mean that easy time will continue p2 year. The current p3 class lost 5 people their p2 year. At least 10 will graduate 12 weeks late because they could not pass there summers and had to take the test a fourth time during the school year. Those 10 are the lucky ones because p1s that can’t pass their test in the summer are held back an entire year!!!!!!!!!! The current p2 class lost a few people due to that. Who knows what will happen to the p1 class. All I know is that they never mentioned that at the interview. That “3year program” can quickly become 4.
3.I never said anything about SATS…..reread my post.
4.I said more about USN than the test being hard and partying on the strip…..go reread the post.
5.I really don’t care if anyone believes me. Those that do are smart and those that don’t will find out what USN is about when they start.
6.Why does my post count matter and how does having more post counts make someone more credible than me……..it doesn’t. No one knows who anybody is or that they are what they say they are!!!!!! Why would post count mater?????
7.Once again, if you are not a student or applying to USN get out of this thread. Why are you wasting your time commenting on things that don’t concern you?


Interesting, do you own the thread? You are right, you are a complete waste of time. Who cares if you are so mad? What a loser.
 
If I pay 40k, there is nothing wrong with expecting good teachers, and a highly professional atmosphere.

The school with 20 students drop out in the first semester really give me a bad impression.

You are taking the word of a person who is really prone to exaggeration that 20 people have dropped out. This student also said that 100% of the students are massively angry and that everyone has to study everyday and if anyone says otherwise, they are lying. Do you believe that too?

Now I don't know the exact numbers but 20 seems really high. I suppose it is possible but I wouldn't take the word of a person who has an agenda and is pretty careless when it comes to making accurate statements.
 
So I was checking my email today and here is the message that was sent out to the P1s from one of my profs.

Please don't hesitate to email if you have questions at any time. Whenever I get access to email I will respond to your questions immediately. Thanks


I didn't contact him to get this email. He just sent it out. Isn't that nice?

And then a few messages down, someone else sent me a drug chart to help me study for our exam this week. Did I ask for this? No, someone just passed it on because they thought I might find it useful. It is the second one I have received for the same lecture. Things like this make me happy I chose USN.
 
I would not respond to this idiot any more. Just let the thread die. You have been on this blog for some time and are very credible.
 
I would not respond to this idiot any more. Just let the thread die. You have been on this blog for some time and are very credible.

We could do that...but based on his motives, I have a feeling he might just infect another thread.
 
I'm new to this site and I've never posted on any site before but I felt a need to reply to this posting.
USN is not for everyone. I cannot back up the veracity of the claim that 20 students have already been dropped from the program but if that is indeed true then this school has a problem as that is a much higher non-retention rate than when I attended the school. Maybe things have changed alot there. Or maybe I was lied to. I have no way to know. I attended USN and I withdrew from the program because I thought it was likely that I would wind up getting kicked out eventually due to too many NP's(that's no pass) NP means anything less than an A(or a middle B if you're work group does well). I hated the school. I felt misled about the helpfulness of the instructors( posters are correct though, the other students will help all that they can). The instructors were rude and demeaning (with the exception of the president of the school) and very few students will stick up to them so If you have a beef be ready to go it alone. Most students just want to lay low and pass! The replies to the original post are just obnoxious. No-one goes to USN thinking they are going to spend their time partying every weekend. I wasn't misled about that. I was told it was a difficult program but I was also told that the instructors really wanted you to succeed. I did not find that to be true at all. I do, however, agree that if you go into an accelerated program that you better be prepared to work very hard. It's actually worse than most realize. People say it's a 4 year program condensed to 3 but that isn't really true. You 3rd year is the same as the 4th year at another school so really it's 3 years of bookwork crammed into 2. That is alot of information. I wasn't up to the task so I left. My choice and I don't regret it (most of the time). But do not believe the hype that USN is this caring wonderful place. It is not. Your classmates may care but the administration and faculty does not. By the way. I wasn't bombing. My NP's were B+'s. I have a Composite PCAT of 92% and a 3.8 science GPA. I thought I'd be fine but a B might as well be and F at USN. Good luck to you if you decide to attend. And those of you who pass the first time and party your weekends away...bully for you🙂
 
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