Do personal statements matter that much?

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My personal statement is OK. Nothing earth shattering. I was honest when it came to my motivations for medicine, and I feel like a walking cliche. Interested in service, interested in science, blah blah. Of course it's "tailored" to my personal experiences, but that is the general vibe you get from the essay. I tried different "thematic" essays and I felt like I was being pompous and self important.

Does the PS even really matter that much?

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People spend an extensive amount of time writing and revising it. An above average mcat doesn't mean you don't have to try on the PS.
 
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What is going to make you a better student and a better physician than anyone else the school could accept? That's what you have to get across. If your PS isn't doing that, ya gotta write a new one. Don't let little tidbits of this first PS keep drawing you back in- you'll end up rewriting the same thing.
 
Lol.


Better apply caribbean

Way to contribute with a well thought out response that does anything other than ridicule.

@baratheonfire Let's say someone else is applying with the same stats as you, and similar ECs. If you're an adcom, how do you choose between two candidates, if one has a cliche PS that says "I just want to make the world a better place" while the other explains what they did to become interested in medicine, how they've learned from their medically-relevant experiences and used what they learned to make a difference. For example...let's say that I want to be a doctor because I feel a strong desire to help people like my parents who are type 2 diabetics, and my older brother, who I looked up to as a child, became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to undergo rehab for months (he's the reason I pursued neuroscience in college; I wanted to learn how the brain works and how drugs can affect it)....now, all of that is fine and dandy, and shows that I care about diseases and addiction, but none of it expresses the critically important qualities of a physician: leadership, intelligence, problem-solver, compassionate, etc...all it shows is that I am curious about illness, but it doesn't show why I am qualified to enter medical school. Does this make sense? If anyone disagrees/has something to add, please do.
 
My personal statement is OK. Nothing earth shattering. I was honest when it came to my motivations for medicine, and I feel like a walking cliche. Interested in service, interested in science, blah blah. Of course it's "tailored" to my personal experiences, but that is the general vibe you get from the essay. I tried different "thematic" essays and I felt like I was being pompous and self important.

Does the PS even really matter that much?

Just write honestly and you'll be fine. Adcoms here have stated that secondaries matter much more than personal statements, because too many people use outside services to write the PS on their behalf. These PS's end up sounding extremely fluffy and unoriginal.

@baratheonfire Let's say someone else is applying with the same stats as you, and similar ECs. If you're an adcom, how do you choose between two candidates,

Adcoms and faculty have stated that applicants aren't compared with each other but to a particular applicant field that fits the specific school's mission and goals.
 
Just write honestly and you'll be fine. Adcoms here have stated that secondaries matter much more than personal statements, because too many people use outside services to write the PS on their behalf. These PS's end up sounding extremely fluffy and unoriginal.
Didn't know that, thanks!
 
I think it can be important in that you want to come across as thoughtful (definitely not pompous), authentic, with a clear rationale for medicine, etc. I don't think it carries more weight generally than GPA/MCAT though.
 
I'd also consider the quality of your writing and how well you've articulated your thoughts in your PS. Many applicants have the same experiences, yet some PS are much better than others with the same general content. It sounds like you haven't spent too much time on yours (yet). A good PS takes time because you must parse apart "bigger" experiences (shadowing, science, blah blah, as you say) into much more refined points that convey your personal qualities, character, etc. This takes time. It's not a myriad list of things.
 
Just write honestly and you'll be fine. Adcoms here have stated that secondaries matter much more than personal statements, because too many people use outside services to write the PS on their behalf. These PS's end up sounding extremely fluffy and unoriginal.



Adcoms and faculty have stated that applicants aren't compared with each other but to a particular applicant field that fits the specific school's mission and goals.

So this is where the secondary really makes a difference, right?
 
Just write honestly and you'll be fine. Adcoms here have stated that secondaries matter much more than personal statements, because too many people use outside services to write the PS on their behalf. These PS's end up sounding extremely fluffy and unoriginal.

Adcoms and faculty have stated that applicants aren't compared with each other but to a particular applicant field that fits the specific school's mission and goals.

Lol, you don't think people use editing services for their secondaries?

Worst idea ever to tell someone to "just write honestly and you'll be fine." The reason is that most people honestly don't know where to start. OP was honest in saying that he liked helping people and had an interest in science. That's the most unoriginal thing ever and barely scratches the surface. It's like saying, plz let me be a doctor cuz I'm nice and I liek school.

How about think deeply about what matters to you -- why is helping others so important? Not enough of it? Makes you feel good? Rights social wrongs/inequities? There's a need for it?

Also why is becoming a physician is important to you? Many ways to help people out there, why does it have to be as a physician? Because disease is the worst problem ever and you only want to solve the big issues? Because you like the challenge of not always having a clear answer? Because the white coat makes you feel special?

As for interest in science -- for god sakes, it's like the boringest and most generic thing ever to say. You might win more favor by saying you hate science. How about why you think it's important to work hard to become a good scientist and what you have done to prove that you are a good one. God forbid yet another premed tells us they have taken hard premed courses, what ever should an adcom do?

Finally, if everyone is peddling the same stuff (and trust, me they are), why not wrap it up in a neat, stylish, fun-to-read package. Take it from the rest of the business world, when you're trying to sell someone a load of bs, you wrap it up in fancy paper. Duh.
 
While your PS is limited by your own experiences, really dig deep and try to make some insightful observations. IDK how important it is, but I have a difficult time turning in something that I know isn't my best work. I'm assuming, with discordant stats, you want to show them you're Mr. 520 and not Mr. 3.47.

Just write honestly and you'll be fine. Adcoms here have stated that secondaries matter much more than personal statements, because too many people use outside services to write the PS on their behalf. These PS's end up sounding extremely fluffy and unoriginal.

It already costs $700+ to have an editor make comments. I feel like unless an applicant has extremely wealthy parents, hiring a ghostwriter is very much out of the norm.
 
While your PS is limited by your own experiences, really dig deep and try to make some insightful observations. IDK how important it is, but I have a difficult time turning in something that I know isn't my best work. I'm assuming, with discordant stats, you want to show them your Mr. 520 and not Mr. 3.47.



It already costs $700+ to have an editor make comments. I feel like unless an applicant has extremely wealthy parents, hiring a ghostwriter is very much out of the norm.

Application cycle costs how much?

5,000 roughly? Whats another 10% if it gives you an edge up and helps you not have to repeat the whole process over again. Granted no one is going to ever quantify the actual benefit for you, so it comes down to personal preference.
 
Application cycle costs how much?

5,000 roughly? Whats another 10% if it gives you an edge up and helps you not have to repeat the whole process over again. Granted no one is going to ever quantify the actual benefit for you, so it comes down to personal preference.

What I mean to say is that no service out there currently writes essays for applicants. You'll have to find a Harvard grad somewhere on Craigslist and pay him $2000 for a very questionable essay lol
 
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Way to contribute with a well thought out response that does anything other than ridicule.

@baratheonfire Let's say someone else is applying with the same stats as you, and similar ECs. If you're an adcom, how do you choose between two candidates, if one has a cliche PS that says "I just want to make the world a better place" while the other explains what they did to become interested in medicine, how they've learned from their medically-relevant experiences and used what they learned to make a difference. For example...let's say that I want to be a doctor because I feel a strong desire to help people like my parents who are type 2 diabetics, and my older brother, who I looked up to as a child, became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to undergo rehab for months (he's the reason I pursued neuroscience in college; I wanted to learn how the brain works and how drugs can affect it)....now, all of that is fine and dandy, and shows that I care about diseases and addiction, but none of it expresses the critically important qualities of a physician: leadership, intelligence, problem-solver, compassionate, etc...all it shows is that I am curious about illness, but it doesn't show why I am qualified to enter medical school. Does this make sense? If anyone disagrees/has something to add, please do.

The reason I made that joke is because the thread title and post was dumb. Obviously Personal statements are gonna matter.
OP said his PS was OK and is wanting confirmation that he didn't screw up by submitting a subpar essay.
 
What I mean to say is that no service out there currently writes essays for applicants. You'll have to find a Harvard grad somewhere on Craigslist and pay him $2000 for a very questionable essay lol

So people like me?

I wish I've had the avarice to charge even close to 2000. While it's probably hard and highly risky to find someone to write your experiences for you (JFK did in Profiles in Courage), you can definitely get solid editing once you give writing a good try . Honestly, editing by a veteran hand becomes useful because the writer can get an alternate perspective on how someone else would interpret, structure, narrate that piece of writing. It helps to correct inaccuracies/inconsistencies, vague/confusing premises, etc. A lot of struggling applicants just feel pressured to finish the damn thing and assume that they can "write honestly and be fine." The reality is they get tunnel vision and fail to critically appraise their writing (and by extension, their thinking). What they end up with is a convoluted mess.
 
Poorly written PS's are useful in culling the herd.
Exceptional ones tend to be noted.

My personal statement is OK. Nothing earth shattering. I was honest when it came to my motivations for medicine, and I feel like a walking cliche. Interested in service, interested in science, blah blah. Of course it's "tailored" to my personal experiences, but that is the general vibe you get from the essay. I tried different "thematic" essays and I felt like I was being pompous and self important.

Does the PS even really matter that much?
 
The reason I made that joke is because the thread title and post was dumb. Obviously Personal statements are gonna matter.
OP said his PS was OK and is wanting confirmation that he didn't screw up by submitting a subpar essay.
I haven't submitted. But thanks for the noncontribution.
 
Please submit a mediocre essay! It's just less competition for people with identical stats.
 
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