DO vs. MD MATCH

[IdontTakeCall]

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Input please.
Applying EM - DO and MD. 10 programs for each, as the cost of one = the cost of 10. My top two choices are MD. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that these two programs are the only 2 MD interviews I will get, whereas I should get interviews at all 10 DO. So, this is premature, but assuming I do get interviews at both top MD programs, my list would be 1,2 MD. 3-12 DO, in an increasingly competetive field of EM. Unless the MD program gave me a behind the scences "withdraw from AOA your going to match here", I should take one of the 3-12 DO spots right? Dont really mind the 4th year apart from loss of salary. I DO NOT, want to scramble.

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[JaggerPlate]

You apply for PGY1 and PGY2 (derm) spot in the match. On match day, you will find out if you matched at both, one or the other, or neither.

Obviously, the most important thing would be to match in the PGY2 spot as you probably could find a PGY1 spot anywhere in the country.

If you do not match into the PGY2 spot, you will have to go through the match again during your intern year.

Are you referring to AOA or ACGME derm. For ACGME, I'm fairly certain you apply and match PGY1 and 2 during the actual match, but I was under the impression that for AOA, you only apply for a TRI then actually apply for a PGY2 AOA derm spot while in your TRI???

 

[Rollo]

Are you referring to AOA or ACGME derm. For ACGME, I'm fairly certain you apply and match PGY1 and 2 during the actual match, but I was under the impression that for AOA, you only apply for a TRI then actually apply for a PGY2 AOA derm spot while in your TRI???

Err sorta...take a look

https://www.do-online.org/pdf/acc_postdocogmefirstyearoptions.pdf

 

[JaggerPlate]

Err sorta...take a look

https://www.do-online.org/pdf/acc_postdocogmefirstyearoptions.pdf

Well ... it looks like (for now) derm is 'option 3' where you match a 'stand alone' TRI. This leads me to believe that unless you worked out some sort of unofficial deal with a derm program, your best shot is to match a TRI that is associated with the same hospital where the derm residency is based and apply to it (and probably others) during that time. It makes me wonder though ... how do audition rotations for this work? Do you audition for the TRI as a 4th year, then just apply to derm as an intern? Do you get time to 'audition' as an intern (really doubt it), or do you just do auditions for the derm residency as a 4th year???

 

[rjr2467]

I would like to know if it’s harder to get into an MD general surgery residency (and then a CT residency) having gone to a DO school (but having taken USMLE step 1 and 2 instead of COMPLEX)? Staying in my home city would be ideal for me and I would like to specifically know if I could get into a Jackson (Miami, Fl) surgery residency coming out of Nova’s DO school? If you can, how much better would your USMLE score have to be relative to someone coming out of an MD school?

 

[ShyRem]

Please. It's COMLEX. No P. (sorry, I'm tired and grumpy tonight.)

As a DO student you are REQUIRED to take comlex 1 and usually 2 to graduate. If you get into an allo residency, it is my understanding you can take and finish the USMLE series to get licensed. Someone should check on that for me, though.

Can you get into darn near any residency you want as a DO? Generally. And gen surg isn't that competitive. But no one can guarantee you getting into any med school or any residency program (not to mention it's VERY preliminary to even be thinking of residency as a PRE-med). And what the climate is now may be very very VERY different than what it is in - what, 5 years? - the time until you actually are ready to apply for a residency position. Not to mention 80% of all med students change their minds about their specialty of choice (yeah, yeah, yeah... "NOT ME!" I've heard it. You're more likely to change your mind.)

Scores aren't everything. You need a good whole package to get your top pick, particularly if it's competitive.

I know I'm not being particularly eloquent tonight - I'm pushing work hour limitations every week and I'm a little tired tonight and need to be at work tomorrow by 5am. If you do a quick search, the broad topics above have been discussed multiple times this year with some very eloquent, lucid, well thought out, and even humorous responses from interns, residents, current med students, and yes, even an occasional program director or two.

Work on getting into med school first. Then work on your first two years. Then work on passing level 1 of boards. Then work on year 3. THEN worry about residency. You are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY ahead of yourself here.

 

[golgiapparatus88]

Scores aren't everything. You need a good whole package to get your top pick, particularly if it's competitive.

Now I'm just a pre-med who's way ahead of myself also but out of curiosity, what do residencies look for besides COMLEX/USMLE scores? What counts as a "whole package?"

Thanks in advance (hope you're not grumpy when you read this). 😀

 

[ShyRem]

Whole package = everything. You. LORs. Your interview. Your PS. Your application in general. Your experience. Your suit. The way you call the secretary. Your grades. Your scores. Anything interesting about your application. Or not.

Whole package =/= only comlex/usmle scores.