Do you need to do research to get a good residency?

[silas2642]

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Just wondering. I know that if you want to go into certain fields, it really helps to have some research experience under your belt. I hate research. Will skipping out on it during medical school hurt my chances for matching?

 

[Poety]

probably not, but if you want to get into a research oriented place, it will help to have some under your belt. Plus a lot of places require some during residency - so you may be able to wait until then for it. Get good board scores and have some electives in psych and I'm sure you'll be fine!

Good luck silas! 🙂

 

[freeagent]

Poety:

I agree that good boards score is the most important factor. But, if you're applying to a competitive program, you are at a definate disadvantage if you don't do any research. Most top flight schools will brag to you about their research grants so they are all "research oriented." You can always join a faculty's research project and be burried among 8 authors, so it won't be very intense research. It will still look good on paper.

 

[Poety]

Hi Freeagent!! OH yes, I think you definitely HAVE to do it for the big boys (there is even a rumor flying around this year that one particular program won't even interview you without research experience) Perhaps I misunderstood the OP, I thought he just meant a good spot, I didn't realize he wanted one of the big boys 😉

 

[RustNeverSleeps]

probably not, but if you want to get into a research oriented place, it will help to have some under your belt. Plus a lot of places require some during residency - so you may be able to wait until then for it. Get good board scores and have some electives in psych and I'm sure you'll be fine!

Good luck silas! 🙂

Hey Poety, I've always heard that board scores are relatively less important in psych compared to other fields. Is there a certain minimum score that is required/recommended?

 

[Poety]

Hi Rust,

I think the board scores are relatively less important than other specialties, but to be super competitive, they are still just as important. I don't have the best board scores and I was weeded out prior to interview (even with extensive research) so thats why I said I think the board scores may perhaps be more important in that aspect.

I think at the big boy programs (MGH, Yale, Cali schools, etc) they want to see a lot of both - scores and research. But even they may be more lax on the research - however, as Freeagent said, for programs that want researchers - they are LOOKING for research in your CV (MUSC, Pitt, UPenn - I don't know about the rest)

HTH a bit - sorry I can't give any more info since my experience is limited - perhaps others here can offer some insight too -

 

[freeagent]

The rumor is if you score under 200 for part I or II, you will not have an invited at UCLA NPI, Stanford, UCSD, and other programs of the same calibur.

 

[freeagent]

The rumor is if you score under 200 for part I or II, you will not have an invitation at UCLA NPI, Stanford, UCSD, and other programs of the same calibur.

 

[mosche]

Deleted to avoid confusion.

 

[The Pride]

If you "hate research" as you say in your OP, I'd venture to say that the places that might weed you out for it aren't the type of place that you'd be happiest doing your residency at anyway.

I didn't do research in medical school, although I did some psych research during undergrad. I have average grades at a top 20 med school, top-notch board scores, and a pretty good extracurricular record. I think the absence of research may have played a role when I didn't get interviews, but I'm not too worried about it because I'm very excited about a number of the programs that were interested in me.

Are there any programs in particular that you are interested in?

 

[nortomaso]

I'll weigh in on this, because although I would like to do research in the future, I haven't done a hell of a lot of it in the past. My impression from the places I interviewed at is that no one (even the "research oriented" places) requires or even expects you to do research. What I think that is required is some kind of demonstration of interest and commitment to the field that goes beyond the core requirments of medical school.

For example, let's say you are curious about the field of HIV psychiatry. You could write a review of the topic for your school's journal or for a psych or infectious disease interest group newsletter. You could help set up an outreach center or volunteer at one that has already been set up. You could do a senior elective in HIV psych with the NIMH. Create a strand of interest that will be visible on your resume and that will be a topic of converstaion during interviews. It doesn't mean that you will be locked into that subspecialty for the rest of your career. It is just a way to show that you are enthusiastic about psychiatry and that you are able to take initiative. It will also enable you to learn at least one topic beyond the superficial knowledge we acquire in med school.


Residency directors want candidates who are likely to make a contribution to the field. But I think they are by and large extremely open to what that contribution is. Research is one obvious way, but not the only way. The best programs are actually hoping for an eclectic group of residents. Psych is an incredibly diverse field. It reminds me of those "choose-your-own-adventure" books we had as kids. You can work in a hospital, office, prison, courtroom, classroom, drug company, laboratory, law enforcement agency....almost any setting you can imagine. So just find something you like and go have fun.

 

[mosche]

I'll weigh in on this, because although I would like to do research in the future, I haven't done a hell of a lot of it in the past. My impression from the places I interviewed at is that no one (even the "research oriented" places) requires or even expects you to do research. What I think that is required is some kind of demonstration of interest and commitment to the field that goes beyond the core requirments of medical school.

For example, let's say you are curious about the field of HIV psychiatry. You could write a review of the topic for your school's journal or for a psych or infectious disease interest group newsletter. You could help set up an outreach center or volunteer at one that has already been set up. You could do a senior elective in HIV psych with the NIMH. Create a strand of interest that will be visible on your resume and that will be a topic of converstaion during interviews. It doesn't mean that you will be locked into that subspecialty for the rest of your career. It is just a way to show that you are enthusiastic about psychiatry and that you are able to take initiative. It will also enable you to learn at least one topic beyond the superficial knowledge we acquire in med school.


Residency directors want candidates who are likely to make a contribution to the field. But I think they are by and large extremely open to what that contribution is. Research is one obvious way, but not the only way. The best programs are actually hoping for an eclectic group of residents. Psych is an incredibly diverse field. It reminds me of those "choose-your-own-adventure" books we had as kids. You can work in a hospital, office, prison, courtroom, classroom, drug company, laboratory, law enforcement agency....almost any setting you can imagine. So just find something you like and go have fun.

Excellent response! 👍

 

[Poety]

Yeah, I second what Mosche said 👍

 

[atsai3]

My impression from the places I interviewed at is that no one (even the "research oriented" places) requires or even expects you to do research.

I would agree with this to an extent. If you're really hardcore about research, many programs will have a research track with dedicated research time during PGY4 (or even PGY3, although that seems to be rare) +/- a guaranteed fully funded PGY5 year dedicated to research. None of the programs at which I've interviewed expect any of the residents to hit the ground running (i.e., during PGY1) in terms of research, and it's my impression that it might even be discouraged, since their primary aim is to make you a competent psychiatrist, and if you can squeeze in research during your downtime that would just be a bonus.

On the interview trail I found my research experience to be nothing but a bonus. Gave PDs plenty to ask about, and me plenty to talk about, during my interviews, and the feedback I've received so far suggests that it will probably help come match day. That said, I would also agree with The Pride in that if you hate research, first of all why go through the punishment during medical school?, and second of all, you probably won't be happiest at a program that is pushing/ gently encouraging you to do a 'scholarly project'.

Cheers
-AT.

 

[uams student]

I maintain a copy of Mosche's former contribution, but as to avoid more confusion now remove what I believe may have been an appropriate response.

 

[mosche]

Mosche,

I believe I am that classmate you mentioned because I, too, interviewed at Wash U and Ivy League institutions. I am offended that you have taken it upon yourself to mislead others about what you need to get a good residency by using what you thought was true about my application. I don't know where you got the erroneous information that I scored in the 210 to 220 range on USMLE exams. I seriously doubt you heard it from faculty, and I have told no one. You either made it up or someone LIED to you. I actually scored much higher-250s to be exact on step 2 and much higher than 210 to 220 on step 1. I am appalled that you would relay such false information. You may tell your scores but don't claim to share mine, PLEASE!!!!!!!! I got interviews because of not only scores but all a's and one b (in surgery, should that count?) in my 3rd year clerkships with great evaluations. I am in the top tier of my medical school class rankings (ALTHOUGH IT IS 2ND TIER). I served in several leadership roles, even as president in one, throughout my career as a medical student. You may have to forgive my hostility, but I knew that you were talking of me. You and I were the only two to receive such interviews. Please do not dispay my scores again, and if you decide to, get them right or call me first.

I am not sure who you are; however, I do have a good idea. I am sorry if you thought that I was referring to you; I was not. There were several persons who received Wash U. interviews, and several had top scores. However, there were some who had solid scores who also got interviews (one specifically got interviews because of her research -- according to her). If I in anyway outed anyone, I am sorry; however, the individual to whom I was referring has given her scores on SDN in the past. BTW, if your scores were in the upper league, why did you assume that I was referring to you?

 

[Poety]

UAMS no one here knows who you are and I don't feel Mosche "outed" anyone at all. He used bland stats to make a statement of something he knows. Also - its your post that draws attention to you - not anyone elses. I dont think anyone here would have put together UAMS with this one post Mosche made and said "Oh he got a 220" and btw, I think a 210-220 is a good score. And further, I think they have minimum scores for a reason - thats the knowledge you need to become a competant physician - I'll be so glad when these damn exams become pass/fail like they should be - like theres not enough competitiveness in medicine 🙄

 

[uams student]

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[uams student]

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[Doctor Bagel]

Mosche,

I believe I am that classmate you mentioned because I, too, interviewed at Wash U and Ivy League institutions. I am offended that you have taken it upon yourself to mislead others about what you need to get a good residency by using what you thought was true about my application. I don't know where you got the erroneous information that I scored in the 210 to 220 range on USMLE exams. I seriously doubt you heard it from faculty, and I have told no one. You either made it up or someone LIED to you. I actually scored much higher-250s to be exact on step 2 and much higher than 210 to 220 on step 1. I am appalled that you would relay such false information. You may tell your scores but don't claim to share mine, PLEASE!!!!!!!! I got interviews because of not only scores but all a's and one b (in surgery, should that count?) in my 3rd year clerkships with great evaluations. I am in the top tier of my medical school class rankings (ALTHOUGH IT IS 2ND TIER). I served in several leadership roles, even as president in one, throughout my career as a medical student. You may have to forgive my hostility, but I knew that you were talking of me. You and I were the only two to receive such interviews. Please do not dispay my scores again, and if you decide to, get them right or call me first.

This gets my vote for oddest post ever. Is UAMS that small and gossipy that you worry that everyone is talking about your board scores and spreading rumors on SDN? Yes, anonymous UAMS student, you're awesome. I was thinking bad stuff about you until you chipped in with this thread.

 

[Poety]

This gets my vote for oddest post ever. Is UAMS that small and gossipy that you worry that everyone is talking about your board scores and spreading rumors on SDN? Yes, anonymous UAMS student, you're awesome. I was thinking bad stuff about you until you chipped in with this thread.

I'm with you girl 👍 and UAMS you DID imply that 210 is LOW since you made it CLEAR Mosche shoulda got his "facts" straight AND you told all of us about your "250's" step 2 and "well over 210" for step 1 - nice attempt on the cover though - 😱 🙄

 

[uams student]

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[MDgonnabe]

wow. talk about delusions of reference.

so can someone please explain to me the rationale behind the recent emphasis on step 1 scores in psych? i've met individuals on the trail who were previously interested in derm etc (hinting at boards scores in the 230+ range). i've also met amazing clinicians who've failed the boards, some multiple times. paper testing seems like a really poor way to go about matching people to residencies, esp in psych where interpersonal skills, "emotional intelligence," should come before basic science regurgitation. is there a shred of evidence that boards scores correlate to anything more than a long attention span and excellent memorization capabilities, anyway? i'd love to know.

at any rate, i'll let everyone know how i match. i'm happy to admit that i failed step 1 the first time around due to lack of any studying effort on my part (mid-med school crisis/questioning if i even wanted to do medicine anymore). score then was a 179. got a 197 the second time around, 207 step 2. not the best scores in the world, but i thought adequate for psych. got interviews at several solid programs including one ivy. i have psychological research under my belt and have an interesting background in terms of ethnicity, so perhaps that helped? but hey, everyone's got their story, as anyone working in psych would know. bottom line: please don't freak out if your record isn't pristine. even your residency won't necessarily make or break your entire career. there are fellowships. and beyond fellowships, there's the time and effort you put into how you want to contribute to the field, as mosche stated so eloquently.

 

[Poety]

wow. talk about delusions of reference.

so can someone please explain to me the rationale behind the recent emphasis on step 1 scores in psych? i've met individuals on the trail who were previously interested in derm etc (hinting at boards scores in the 230+ range). i've also met amazing clinicians who've failed the boards, some multiple times. paper testing seems like a really poor way to go about matching people to residencies, esp in psych where interpersonal skills, "emotional intelligence," should come before basic science regurgitation. is there a shred of evidence that boards scores correlate to anything more than a long attention span and excellent memorization capabilities, anyway? i'd love to know.

at any rate, i'll let everyone know how i match. i'm happy to admit that i failed step 1 the first time around due to lack of any studying effort on my part (mid-med school crisis/questioning if i even wanted to do medicine anymore). score then was a 179. got a 197 the second time around, 207 step 2. not the best scores in the world, but i thought adequate for psych. got interviews at several solid programs including one ivy. i have psychological research under my belt and have an interesting background in terms of ethnicity, so perhaps that helped? but hey, everyone's got their story, as anyone working in psych would know. bottom line: please don't freak out if your record isn't pristine. even your residency won't necessarily make or break your entire career. there are fellowships. and beyond fellowships, there's the time and effort you put into how you want to contribute to the field, as mosche stated so eloquently.

Hey hon, don't listen to ANYONE that says board scores are the most improtant aspect of an app - you wouldn't wanna be in a program run by a PD like that anyway - if they can't see past numbers, I'd hate to work with the people they recruit.

And shes right - board scores are minimal in the whole package of whats important and whats not. Whats most important is finding a place you'll be happy at with normal non-psych needing residents themselves - which at someplaces eh eh, couldn't find them - and at others, everyone was normal and fun.

I'm praying for ya MDGONna, I know you'll get yer number one 😉

 

[OldPsychDoc]

wow. talk about delusions of reference.

so can someone please explain to me the rationale behind the recent emphasis on step 1 scores in psych? ....

Bottom line: Board scores correlate with Board scores.
Programs want to ensure that they're ranking people who can pass state licensing exams and go on to pass national psych boards.
It sucks, but that's the reason. Fortunately psych still is a place where an "amazing clinician" with mediocre scores has a chance to shine.

I look forward to having you on board!

 

[MDgonnabe]

I look forward to having you on board!

and i look forward to petting your lovely cap. 😀

hey poety, how's it going with you? has your numero uno pre-accepted you yet or what? 😛

 

[Poety]

and i look forward to petting your lovely cap. 😀

hey poety, how's it going with you? has your numero uno pre-accepted you yet or what? 😛

well, pre-accepted is relative, but I was told I was in 😀 I'm only hoping now. I'd be happy at one, two or three though in all honesty - even up to number 4 😎

what about you? any news? i know you finished your interview at the one - so how was it? and don't forget to post your review for future applicants! 😉 actually, i just wanna see what you gotta say

 

[MDgonnabe]

what about you? any news? i know you finished your interview at the one - so how was it? and don't forget to post your review for future applicants! 😉 actually, i just wanna see what you gotta say

i'd say they went well. not as well as i would've liked as they felt really rushed, but well enough. i would've written a review, but i pretty much agreed with what others have already stated, so i saw no point anymore... at the moment i'm still trying to figure out why it's such a chore for people to schedule me for second looks. makes me kinda think less of the programs. are we supposed to schedule them through the pd or the res coordinators? b/c i've tried contacting a couple coordinators and they haven't gotten back to me at all since monday. meanwhile the clock is ticking. 🙄

 

[uams student]

Mosche,

I regret that this has happened. I do not regret my response, although I removed what I could from the postings because it is not the appropriate forum for such information. I do regret that private information will remain public because I responded hastily to your “confus[ing]” post. I feel that because you have misrepresented yourself as a student (How should I know if even the misrepresentation is true? Every Mosche posting implies he is a student who actually goes on interviews and drinks Blue Ribbon.), you are at fault. Whether there really was another Wash U/Ivy League applicant is of smaller relevance now that the real falsehood surrounds the authorship of the posting anyway. In other words, how can I believe anything you say regarding these postings after learning that Mosche is a student who isn’t a student? I certainly will not hold a grudge about the matter, nor will I respond through live communication as you asked by phone because more new “truths” might be revealed. (I should not call them a lie, should I?) I have learned a lesson today. Never believe what you see, either. It might just be “confusing.”

 

[nortomaso]

Mosche,

I regret that this has happened. I do not regret my response, although I removed what I could from the postings because it is not the appropriate forum for such information. I do regret that private information will remain public because I responded hastily to your “confus[ing]” post. I feel that because you have misrepresented yourself as a student (How should I know if even the misrepresentation is true? Every Mosche posting implies he is a student who actually goes on interviews and drinks Blue Ribbon.), you are at fault. Whether there really was another Wash U/Ivy League applicant is of smaller relevance now that the real falsehood surrounds the authorship of the posting anyway. In other words, how can I believe anything you say regarding these postings after learning that Mosche is a student who isn’t a student? I certainly will not hold a grudge about the matter, nor will I respond through live communication as you asked by phone because more new “truths” might be revealed. (I should not call them a lie, should I?) I have learned a lesson today. Never believe what you see, either. It might just be “confusing.”

Mosche, how could you lie about the Blue Ribbon?!!! I'll never trust you again. 😀

 

[Doc Samson]

(How should I know if even the misrepresentation is true? Every Mosche posting implies he is a student who actually goes on interviews and drinks Blue Ribbon.), you are at fault. Whether there really was another Wash U/Ivy League applicant is of smaller relevance now that the real falsehood surrounds the authorship of the posting anyway. In other words, how can I believe anything you say regarding these postings after learning that Mosche is a student who isn’t a student?

...huh? 😕

 

[Poety]

Mosche,

I regret that this has happened. I do not regret my response, although I removed what I could from the postings because it is not the appropriate forum for such information. I do regret that private information will remain public because I responded hastily to your “confus[ing]” post. I feel that because you have misrepresented yourself as a student (How should I know if even the misrepresentation is true? Every Mosche posting implies he is a student who actually goes on interviews and drinks Blue Ribbon.), you are at fault. Whether there really was another Wash U/Ivy League applicant is of smaller relevance now that the real falsehood surrounds the authorship of the posting anyway. In other words, how can I believe anything you say regarding these postings after learning that Mosche is a student who isn’t a student? I certainly will not hold a grudge about the matter, nor will I respond through live communication as you asked by phone because more new “truths” might be revealed. (I should not call them a lie, should I?) I have learned a lesson today. Never believe what you see, either. It might just be “confusing.”

Please don't rank ANY of the programs I interviewed at - This is just obnoxious, just let it go already - no one even knows what the hell you're talking about 🙄

MOSCHE - HE'S DOING THIS TO HIMSELF - OVER AND OVER AGAIN - INSTEAD OF JUST DROPPING IT - WE LOVE YOU MOSCHE! 😍

ETA: and mosche, we don't care if you're a student pretending to be a student thats not really a student but wants to be a student ok?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

ETA: and mosche, we don't care if you're a student pretending to be a student thats not really a student but wants to be a student ok?

Lol! To use Arkansas language, them there's a head-scratcher.

 

[Poety]

Lol! To use Arkansas language, them there's a head-scratcher.

Isn't it though?


and now... wow, I'm getting private messages saying "I'm" the obnoxious one now 🙄 transferance is sumffin else!

 

[Hurricane]

I do not understand what the hell is going on in this thread.

 

[mosche]

Mosche,

I regret that this has happened. I do not regret my response, although I removed what I could from the postings because it is not the appropriate forum for such information. I do regret that private information will remain public because I responded hastily to your “confus[ing]” post. I feel that because you have misrepresented yourself as a student (How should I know if even the misrepresentation is true? Every Mosche posting implies he is a student who actually goes on interviews and drinks Blue Ribbon.), you are at fault. Whether there really was another Wash U/Ivy League applicant is of smaller relevance now that the real falsehood surrounds the authorship of the posting anyway. In other words, how can I believe anything you say regarding these postings after learning that Mosche is a student who isn’t a student? I certainly will not hold a grudge about the matter, nor will I respond through live communication as you asked by phone because more new “truths” might be revealed. (I should not call them a lie, should I?) I have learned a lesson today. Never believe what you see, either. It might just be “confusing.”

First, let me say that I am Mosche's partner -- the person who posted the original response to th OP. I realize that I should not have posted under his screen-name; and for that I am truly sorry. To those of you have supported Mosche through this whole match process: I AM VERY SORRY FOR THE MISREPRESENTATION. I realize that it will make it very difficult for this to be swept under the rug, and that's unfortunate. When I posted, I really was trying to give the OP some words of encouragement. However, under the circumstances, I realize that I did more harm than good. Therefore, after this post, I will not borrow Mosche's screen-name again. (BTW, he thinks that this whole thing is really silly, and being blown way out of proportion).

Second, to UAMS STUDENT: You are being extremely petty and narcissistic. To read an anonymous post, and then to assume that that post is about you is, in and of itself, narcissistic. To assume that only someone with your "superior" academic prowess could merit an interview at a top-program is narcissistic. But you took it even further -- you posted your scores online, in an attempt to gain validation; while, basically, insulting everyone else whose numbers are lower than your own -- that's both petty and narcissistic. When I tried to call you -- as you encouraged me to do in your now-deleted post -- you refused to allow me to explain/apologize. That's petty. Deciding, instead, to post in a "public" forum while, at the same time, pretending that you are so upset that such things are being made public. That's just plain crap! Finally, I'm glad that you, a fourth year medical student, have realized that online fora are not always as they seem.

To everyone else: Again I apologize for posting under Mosche's screen-name. As a partner who is also enduring this process, I thank you for all of your insights/kindness (especially those of you who have sent ME and Mosche PMs saying that this whole UAMS STUDENT indignation is bogus -- Mosche agrees with you, by the way). That having been said, I will not do this again!

 

[Poety]

First, let me say that I am Mosche's partner -- the person who posted the original response to th OP. I realize that I should not have posted under his screen-name; and for that I am truly sorry. To those of you have supported Mosche through this whole match process: I AM VERY SORRY FOR THE MISREPRESENTATION. I realize that it will make it very difficult for this to be swept under the rug, and that's unfortunate. When I posted, I really was trying to give the OP some words of encouragement. However, under the circumstances, I realize that I did more harm than good. Therefore, after this post, I will not borrow Mosche's screen-name again. (BTW, he thinks that this whole thing is really silly, and being blown way out of proportion).

Second, to UAMS STUDENT: You are being extremely petty and narcissistic. To read an anonymous post, and then to assume that that post is about you is, in and of itself, narcissistic. To assume that only someone with your "superior" academic prowess could merit an interview at a top-program is narcissistic. But you took it even further -- you posted your scores online, in an attempt to gain validation; while, basically, insulting everyone else whose numbers are lower than your own -- that's both petty and narcissistic. When I tried to call you -- as you encouraged me to do in your now-deleted post -- you refused to allow me to explain/apologize. That's petty. Deciding, instead, to post in a "public" forum while, at the same time, pretending that you are so upset that such things are being made public. That's just plain crap! Finally, I'm glad that you, a fourth year medical student, have realized that online fora are not always as they seem.

To everyone else: Again I apologize for posting under Mosche's screen-name. As a partner who is also enduring this process, I thank you for all of your insights/kindness (especially those of you who have sent ME and Mosche PMs saying that this whole UAMS STUDENT indignation is bogus -- Mosche agrees with you, by the way). That having been said, I will not do this again!

I agree, and we love ya both anyway so who cares who posts 😉

 

[Hurricane]

mosche's partner: May I suggest separate logins if you're sharing a computer, or just sign your posts "mosche's partner" if you're going to borrow his screen name...

uams student: Don't you see that you make yourself look worse with every reply? Let. it. go.

I don't get the obsession with scores anyway. It's not like you can do anything about them after the fact. People should just chill and apply to the residencies they are interested in and see what happens. Que sera, sera.

 

[Poety]

mosche's partner: May I suggest separate logins if you're sharing a computer, or just sign your posts "mosche's partner" if you're going to borrow his screen name...

uams student: Don't you see that you make yourself look worse with every reply? Let. it. go.

I don't get the obsession with scores anyway. It's not like you can do anything about them after the fact. People should just chill and apply to the residencies they are interested in and see what happens. Que sera, sera.

👍

 

[uams student]

You all ask me to let it go, yet you continue to post how wrong, petty, and narcissistic I am. Mosche's partner, you said in your now deleted e-mail that you were a student and claimed to have classmates. That was a lie. It was a lie that caused problems. I do not seek validation or would have shared my scores with people personally. No students at UAMS know what they are other than you. I hope they never do know them. Also, I never claimed that I was superior or that interviews I obtained were received only because of scores. Scores are not who I am. They are merely one representation of how hard I work. Because I earned them, I need no validation (I don't think this forum has given me any trophies, anyway). Nor did I join the forum to seek it. I joined to correct you. You can be done with me if you want, I don't care. Maybe you will be honest from now on. It may be silly to you and whomever, but truth is always best.
Hurricane, Poety, you could let it go, too.

 

[nortomaso]

You all ask me to let it go, yet you continue to post how wrong, petty, and narcissistic I am. Mosche's partner, you said in your now deleted e-mail that you were a student and claimed to have classmates. That was a lie. It was a lie that caused problems. I do not seek validation or would have shared my scores with people personally. No students at UAMS know what they are other than you. I hope they never do know them. Also, I never claimed that I was superior or that interviews I obtained were received only because of scores. Scores are not who I am. They are merely one representation of how hard I work. Because I earned them, I need no validation (I don't think this forum has given me any trophies, anyway). Nor did I join the forum to seek it. I joined to correct you. You can be done with me if you want, I don't care. Maybe you will be honest from now on. It may be silly to you and whomever, but truth is always best.
Hurricane, Poety, you could let it go, too.

Hey everyone, this is Nortomaso's partner. I'm also a Yoga instructor. Let's all just let it go. All this animosity is really just a failure to stretch properly.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Hey everyone, this is Nortomaso's partner. I'm also a Yoga instructor. Let's all just let it go. All this animosity is really just a failure to stretch properly.

🙂 Gotta start doing my yoga again.

 

[Hurricane]

🙂 Gotta start doing my yoga again.

Me too. I have a yoga-pilates-ballet combo DVD that I need to blow the dust off. That thing makes you hurt. But in a good way. 🙂