Does a B in English look bad?

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Well, I'm currently in my first semester of freshman year.
I'm having issues in English and all of the other students have
told me that it is really hard to get an A in her class because she
is VERY picky, which she is. One boy even receive -250 on an essay,
she docks -20 for a fragment sentence, -3 for any type of misplaced word
or punctuation. When she handed me my paper back yesterday, she marked
that a word was wrong, then I showed it to her and explained it, and she then
said it is right.

I go to a school with a VERY new science program and it isn't very known,
I am just here because I live two miles from campus and I'm on a full ride
scholarship, but I am transferring for my major.

I'm scared that JUST a B is going to look bad in the class.

Any advice?

I'm literally, dying here. I have no weekends, no free time, no off time, all I do is study in order to get an A in every class for veterinary school admissions. I over-do myself in everything.

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No, a B is not going to kill you, esp in English. I actually took 1 English class pass/fail (which is actually a big no no), and the only school that was hung up on it was Cornell. My second English class was similar to yours. First day of class, my professor said that everyone should take the class pass/fail because he's only given one A in his entire teaching career 😱. At that point, I could not risk taking a second English pre-req class pass-fail, so I took it for credit and of course I get a B...

Don't worry about needing to get all A's. Seriously, as long as you have about a 3.6, I don't think your gpa is something you need seriously fret about. I mean obviously do your best and strive for the 4.0... but if you don't achieve it, it's really not the end of the world.
 
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Thanks, everyone.

As I said, my school isn't that well known, which scares me, even thought I'm just taking general studies/some Pre-Veterinary (except for advanced science), veterinary schools probably won't be familiar with the curriculum, so they wouldn't understand why I received a B.
 
Thanks, everyone.

As I said, my school isn't that well known, which scares me, even thought I'm just taking general studies/some Pre-Veterinary (except for advanced science), veterinary schools probably won't be familiar with the curriculum, so they wouldn't understand why I received a B.

If you were saying C or D then maybe I would suggest retaking it, but a B is totally acceptable. Don't be too hard on yourself....try to enjoy college please 🙂
 
Thanks, everyone.

As I said, my school isn't that well known, which scares me, even thought I'm just taking general studies/some Pre-Veterinary (except for advanced science), veterinary schools probably won't be familiar with the curriculum, so they wouldn't understand why I received a B.
My university is very small and only 10 years old... So very unknown. I was accepted to Ohio State this week. It doesn't matter WHERE you go, but what YOU make of yourself while you are there. Don't get hung up on the "I go to an unknown school, so I'll never get in" idealogy. I did that and made myself miserable haha I'm proof that its possible to get in, so make yourself the best you can be at your school!
 
I'm literally, dying here. I have no weekends, no free time, no off time, all I do is study in order to get an A in every class for veterinary school admissions. I over-do myself in everything.


This may not be a popular opinion, but... don't do that. Especially not in your freshman year. If you keep it up, I can almost guarantee that you will burn out and get very depressed.

Sure, it's important to have good grades. But a handful of B's (and even a C or two, especially in something like ochem) are not going to kill your application. In fact, I would say that a student with a 3.5 and lots of extracurriculars is actually a better applicant than a student with a 4.0 and nothing else.
And sure, vet school is very academic and you need good study skills and blah blah blah, but you can't give up your life for it. They actually really encourage us to cultivate hobbies and social lives outside of school, because there's no way you can stay sane if you do nothing but study.

I applaud you for being so disciplined, but I encourage you to remember to have fun.
Learning how to take care of yourself is SO important!



And btw, I don't think any vet school is going to give a flying you-know-what if you get a B in freshman english. 😛
 
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It's a B. A single B. You'll be FINE. You are completely overreacting.

I'm literally, dying here. I have no weekends, no free time, no off time, all I do is study in order to get an A in every class for veterinary school admissions. I over-do myself in everything.

And I echo what Owl and Pussycat said. If you keep on the track you are describing, you WILL burn out. I can practically guarantee it. And even miraculously, somehow you don't, getting straight As does NOT guarantee you a spot in vet school by any means. You NEED work activities, extracurriculars, etc to get experience. There are many other things just as important to both your sanity and your application as grades are.

If you do nothing but study and flip out, not only will you not have enough time to gain veterinary experience, but you are also completely isolating yourself socially. Part of being a vet is being able to be social. If you're recluse who holes herself away to study and never does anything, your social abilities will suffer, you will become anxious and depressed, and they will be able to tell this at interviews. Relax a little.

If you are this swamped and stressed, you need to reevaluate your study habits. They are obviously not efficient. If it's this bad in undergrad, it will only get worse in vet school when you are talking 20+ credit hours.
 
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I've gotten Bs and Cs, and I was accepted- I'm sure most other people here have similar experiences of a few "bad" (a B is not bad!) grades not standing in the way of an acceptance.

As for your school being new, I don't think that matters so much- there are schools that look at "academic rigor" but I think that's more about the types of classes you take, not the school's reputation. So when you're planning your undergrad coursework, take some upper-level science courses (300 or higher).

And to echo everyone else- relax and enjoy college. if not just for your happiness, but for your academic career- extracurriculars are important! try to join a pre-vet or pre-med group at your school and talk to some of the other members; they can tell you all about some hidden gems like cool animal science electives, opportunities for research/animal work, etc.
 
Did you just start this class? Can you drop it without a W? I would get out of it. Professors like that are not worth it... It's can be good to be pushed, but some profs just get on power trips!

Have you discovered ratemyprofessor.com? I wish I new about before my last semester of undergrad. I would have saved my self a lot of heartache and plenty of wasted time! It's not so much looking for the easy professors (they tend to make me lazy and then I do get a B, lol), but reading the reviews and finding a prof with a class structure and personality that you think you'll work well with.

Good luck and relax. My best semesters were always when I stressed the least about grades. I wish I could find this article I read once. It basically put students into two groups: 1) students were told grading will be curved on a bell, so only 5% can earn an A and 2) students were told everyone could earn an A and everyone that wanted one should be able to earn one. The classes were identical (material, prof, tests, ect). Guess which class did significantly better when looking at raw scores? The second group's class average was almost 20 percentage points higher! Crazy what our minds do!
 
Thanks, everyone.

As I said, my school isn't that well known, which scares me, even thought I'm just taking general studies/some Pre-Veterinary (except for advanced science), veterinary schools probably won't be familiar with the curriculum, so they wouldn't understand why I received a B.

Even if your school is very well known, adcoms still know that grades differ between professors at the same school. So to think that way is silly and to be frank they don't really care. I had classes with extra difficult professors too, but when it comes down to it your grades will still be compared, whether your professor was less difficult than mine, or not. Just the way it goes. The only thing you can do is your best. So focus on that and stop stressing yourself out. You will go crazy before you even get through undergrad.
 
She didn't have a profile on RMP, actually. She is very elderly, but also sweet and willing to help. I think she's hard on everyone because our first day, we had to write "introductory papers" and she listed everyone's errors. College students had spelled words such as: "opportunit," "passionit," "wilinly," etc.
I think the people actually sufficient in English are getting the "left overs" because most everyone in the class is kinda, well...not too sufficient.
In order to have an honors English course, there must be freshmen with 23+ ACT English.
My ACT English is 29, the highest in the school. Before I came, the highest was 23. However, some of the classes ARE tough.
 
I did have multiple extracurriculars (musically related) but I dropped them for college. I do have over 1,500 hours in a small animal clinic, but the veterinarian said I could put them down as ALL college (I started in the tenth grade) when I apply to veterinary school. There is no large animal or exotic veterinarians anywhere around here, unfortunately.

There are only two Pre-Veterinary students here, including myself. The only clubs and organizations are government and religious.

I do have large animal experience, but it isn't with a veterinarian :/ it was showing, wrangling, and working on an alpaca farm. I also have about 10,000 of work in a entrepreneur fish hatchery in which I bred bettas for people and to distribute to pet shops, a dog kennel, groomers, and as an AKC certified handler and trainer.
 
I did have multiple extracurriculars (musically related) but I dropped them for college. I do have over 1,500 hours in a small animal clinic, but the veterinarian said I could put them down as ALL college (I started in the tenth grade) when I apply to veterinary school. .


if by this you mean you plan on lying on your application I certainly wouldn't recommend it.
 
Why don't you start a pre-vet club? That will demonstrate your leadership (and many other things), which the adcoms LOVE 👍 You have to think out side of the box if there aren't many opportunities. You have four years to make yourself a great applicant!
 
Keep in mind that a lot of people who end up in vet school were never on the "pre-vet" track. I would suggest trying to venture outside your closed box of doing anything and everything for veterinary school and enjoy yourself.
 
I didn't plan on lying, that's just what he said I could do.

I've ALWAYS been on the pre-vet track. It's never been anything else. I knew coming into college that I'd have to give it my all.

There has to be a minimum of five people in a club for it to be considered a club. I've thought about it several times, however, there were ZERO science majors during the fall semester, and the ONE pre-vet is transferring to UGA.
My school is EXTREMELY religious and is very strict with the clubs they let in... so far, none. Unless it's the college's idea, then forget about it.
 
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I do have over 1,500 hours in a small animal clinic, but the veterinarian said I could put them down as ALL college (I started in the tenth grade) when I apply to veterinary school.

At least for the VMCAS this year there was absolutely no difference between whether the experience was done in college or high school or whenever. All you had to do was list the beginning and end dates (or month/year I believe) of the experiences and how many hours you accumulated.

Also, at the vet school admission seminar I attended at the U of MN they encouraged you to list high school experiences as well, so I think this is a moot point.

Back to the main topic, don't stress about a B! Especially freshman year - you're still getting used to the transition between high school and college level academia.

Hope you do well in college and are joining a vet class in a few years!
 
I've ALWAYS been on the pre-vet track. It's never been anything else. I knew coming into college that I'd have to give it my all.

I think you're missing the point here . . .

There has to be a minimum of five people in a club for it to be considered a club. I've thought about it several times, however, there were ZERO science majors during the fall semester, and the ONE pre-vet is transferring to UGA.
My school is EXTREMELY religious and is very strict with the clubs they let in... so far, none. Unless it's the college's idea, then forget about it.

Again, you're missing the points that other members have been trying to make. You don't HAVE to start a pre-vet club specifically. The point is that you should look into extracurricular activities. It doesn't necessarily have to be a school-sanctioned club. It could be a book club off-campus, a hobby, a fun volunteer position - look for things that interest you outside the veterinary world. Vet schools like to see well-rounded applicants with experience and knowledge about all facets of the world they live in. Locking yourself in your room, studying constantly, and obsessing about veterinary medicine does NOT make you well rounded. It makes you look insane. 🙄
 
I do have large animal experience, but it isn't with a veterinarian :/ it was showing, wrangling, and working on an alpaca farm. I also have about 10,000 of work in a entrepreneur fish hatchery in which I bred bettas for people and to distribute to pet shops, a dog kennel, groomers, and as an AKC certified handler and trainer.

I just have a quick question. Are you older, non-traditional? Because 10000hrs is roughly 5 yrs of 40hr work weeks or I guess it could be 10yrs of 20hr work weeks which seems more reasonable. I was just wondering because if you are younger I don't know how you can have this much with school and everything (maybe I am calculating mine wrong). I am also asking because I am still fuzzy on how you calculate pet ownership and breeding. I have bred, showed, sold poultry since I was 10 and I am 28 now. How would I calculate this time spent or does it even count since I own the animals. I also breed cornsnakes so how you calculated the betta breeding hours could be of help to me.Thanks in advance!
 
Well,
I took professional instruction and performed music since 1999 (stopped instruction in 2011). I recently played in an orchestra and wind ensemble.
I worked as a pharmacy technician (it was first volunteer in high school), I've volunteered for local churched, I voluntarily fixed computers for people and elders as a side hobby, and I worked as a web programmer for a few websites. I see your point, though.

My family owned the kennel, as well as the groomers. I'm a traditional student. ALMOST EVERY day I was required to help in the kennel and the groomers, for a few hours. It was like a chore, in a way. It's been almost ten years now.

Well, wouldn't it be considered as animal experience?

I would spend about two hours a day, cleaning the tanks, keeping records, sorting out everything, etc.
 
Does your school have an honors society/club? At my community college, because the turnover is so high (people transfer in two years), I was the only returning member of the honors society and became de facto president. I ended up recruiting somewhere around 15 members and putting on some events and it became a major accomplishment for my transfer application. For some reason though...most of the new recruits were bio majors. Wonder how that happened? =P

You don't have to limit yourself to pre-vet. Try a general biology club, or a journal club where you review a journal article every meeting (and have someone present it). Do you have an honors society? If so, you could join that. If not, look into starting a Phi Beta Kappa chapter (the national honors society).

But it sounds to me like you might be getting a little overwhelmed with the pressure of everything. Don't be afraid to take a deep breath and relax. If you don't feel comfortable getting into extracurricular activities right now while you're still adjusting to coursework, it can definitely wait a semester.

My first semester was very similar...study study study. Mostly it was because I have trouble making friends right away and honestly I didn't have much else to do. It was really frustrating at first because I wanted to be living the typical college life that you see in the movies and it wasn't working like that. But I found out that's totally fine. It just might take you a little longer to get into the groove of everything. Just don't do it your whole college career, or you won't have any hair left cuz you'll have pulled it all out. 🙂
 
You don't have to limit yourself to pre-vet. Try a general biology club, or a journal club where you review a journal article every meeting (and have someone present it). Do you have an honors society? If so, you could join that. If not, look into starting a Phi Beta Kappa chapter (the national honors society).

or a ballroom dancing club or a photography club or whatever you find interesting. believe other people when they say that other interests are super important. >75% of what i've discussed at interviews i've been at so far have not been vet-related, so there's that also. life experiences, sanity, etc. etc.

(and as a side note, PBK chapters are started by faculty at the college/university and it's a multi-year process.)
 
I'm literally, dying here. I have no weekends, no free time, no off time, all I do is study in order to get an A in every class for veterinary school admissions. I over-do myself in everything.

If you're killing yourself now you'll be too burnt out by the time 1st semester vet school starts to do well in that program. Not to mention vet admissions doesn't require 4.0's; if you look at the minimum GPA, they accept as low as 2.8 at some schools. A competitive GPA is closer to a 3.6-3.7, which is doable in 4 years with plenty of extra-cirriculars on the side; this is true, because this is an average applicant.

I didn't plan on lying, that's just what he said I could do.

Lying is when you don't tell the truth. It's still lying even if someone else told you to do it. For your sake I hope VMCAS doesn't ask you to differentiate between high school and college experience.


Take a deep breath.


If you college campus is restricting your ability to start up clubs you would find interesting, look to the outside community. Does the town rent out its community center or town hall for meetings? Advertise to the population at large, see what you can do there.

It seems to me like you've got tunnel vision. I can appreciate the dedication, but girl, you need to relax a little bit. This is your life. It needs to be lived! More and more vet schools are targeting well-rounded applicants; VMRCVM has turned down 4.0 applicants in favor of those with more diverse experiences - even (and in some cases especially) outside of the realm of veterinary medicine.

Be passionate and be dedicated but good lord be good to yourself, too.
 
I've gotten Bs and Cs, and I was accepted- I'm sure most other people here have similar experiences of a few "bad" (a B is not bad!) grades not standing in the way of an acceptance.

As for your school being new, I don't think that matters so much- there are schools that look at "academic rigor" but I think that's more about the types of classes you take, not the school's reputation. So when you're planning your undergrad coursework, take some upper-level science courses (300 or higher).

And to echo everyone else- relax and enjoy college. if not just for your happiness, but for your academic career- extracurriculars are important! try to join a pre-vet or pre-med group at your school and talk to some of the other members; they can tell you all about some hidden gems like cool animal science electives, opportunities for research/animal work, etc.

I have to agree. I had multiple C's on my transcript: Physics, Calculus, Orgo I.... In my case, C is for Cornell! So don't freak out. Just choose challenging classes that will allow you to figure out how you study well and handle stress. Doing extra curricular activities is not just to make your application look better. The whole reason it looks good is because it shows that you do things outside of veterinary school prep- which is going to help you with stress management. So, take a deep breath and walk away from your desk 😉
 
One B definitely won't kill you. My overall GPA when I applied was about a 3.65, but I definitely have some B's. I even have a C+ in Physiology. I haven't been accepted anywhere yet, but I've been invited to 3 interviews so far. They didn't even ask about the C at the two that I've had.

I also go to a school that is not very well known and very religious. One of my interviewers at my IS yesterday even told me that he never met anyone from my school. He did ask me some questions about it, but he seemed okay with my answers. Additionally, my school also doesn't have many pre-vets. There were maybe 4 other girls in my year that were pre-vet at one point, but I'm the only one applying from my school this year and nobody from my school applied to vet school last year. However, there was a girl who graduated 2 years ago and went to Auburn, there is another girl from my school at Tufts, and one of the relatively young vets that I've shadowed before went to my undergrad. So, I don't think that going to an unknown college will hurt you too terribly much.

I also agree with everyone else that you should definitely have some sort of activities outside of college. At my interview yesterday, other then the questions about my school, all of the questions that they asked me had to do with my experiences and my extracurriculars. We even talked about painting for a bit.

I was a lot like you my freshman year where I studied constantly (but I was on the cross country team at least) and freaked out over grades, but its gotten a lot better since then and I'm a lot happier. I would also say that my best semesters were the ones where I was the least concerned about grades and had a lot of things going on outside of school.

Good luck:luck:
 
Thanks so much, everyone. It means a lot that you all took the time to help me.

I WILL get back into my extra-curriculars that are outside of veterinary medicine to show a variety of interests and experience, but I would rather wait a bit to get myself settled down and to learn how to effectively manage my time correctly.

As for honors society...
I'm just going to say that my school is best defined as a rich kid's daycare. I'm lucky enough to be here on a full scholarship.
There's a boy in my college algebra class (I have to take it to get into Pre-Calculus. School policy) who is a senior and has failed the class three times.
No one here really cares (alas, I'm sure a few do, but still), as long as they're not living with mommy and daddy.

I'm actually being really social lately. I make friends easily here.

I'm not VERY religious, however, I would like to try to build up a more religious foundation for myself, but I'm scared to because most of the veterinary school are public and I fear if I have religious activities, they'll think that I cannot think logically or scientifically (I've heard people say that if you came out of school still believing in God, then you didn't learn anything :/ ).

My main goal is UGA's CVM (also for in-state purposes) and the average GPA is a 3.5

When I started college, I knew of all the stories the pre-vet people on here have posted about how they wished they had focused more and so on. I just wanted to try to make my grades look as good as possible and build up good study habits for veterinary school. I guess I AM over-doing it.
 
Thanks so much, everyone. It means a lot that you all took the time to help me.

I WILL get back into my extra-curriculars that are outside of veterinary medicine to show a variety of interests and experience, but I would rather wait a bit to get myself settled down and to learn how to effectively manage my time correctly.

As for honors society...
I'm just going to say that my school is best defined as a rich kid's daycare. I'm lucky enough to be here on a full scholarship.
There's a boy in my college algebra class (I have to take it to get into Pre-Calculus. School policy) who is a senior and has failed the class three times.
No one here really cares (alas, I'm sure a few do, but still), as long as they're not living with mommy and daddy.

I'm actually being really social lately. I make friends easily here.

I'm not VERY religious, however, I would like to try to build up a more religious foundation for myself, but I'm scared to because most of the veterinary school are public and I fear if I have religious activities, they'll think that I cannot think logically or scientifically (I've heard people say that if you came out of school still believing in God, then you didn't learn anything :/ ).

My main goal is UGA's CVM (also for in-state purposes) and the average GPA is a 3.5

When I started college, I knew of all the stories the pre-vet people on here have posted about how they wished they had focused more and so on. I just wanted to try to make my grades look as good as possible and build up good study habits for veterinary school. I guess I AM over-doing it.
I think you should try and worry about creating your own path to achieving your DVM, instead of worrying about what you "heard" you should/shouldn't do. No two paths are the same.

Most of the vets I know or have worked for are religious and they are EXCELLENT doctors. They even console their clients by telling them their pets will be with a higher power etc when dealing with euthanasia/terminal illness... So, I think that your belief that having religion in your life might impede you from getting into vet school/become a good doctor is pretty ridiculous.. IMO

Start figuring out your own path rather than trying to create the "perfect path" you have put together from what you hear you "should do". Your unique path will be more interesting and you'll enjoy the journey more 🙂
 
I'm not VERY religious, however, I would like to try to build up a more religious foundation for myself, but I'm scared to because most of the veterinary school are public and I fear if I have religious activities, they'll think that I cannot think logically or scientifically (I've heard people say that if you came out of school still believing in God, then you didn't learn anything :/ ).

I actually go to UGA for my undergrad. In our intro bio class (BIOL 1107) my freshman year, we had an entire class discussion regarding religion before starting the topic of evolution and Darwin. Our professor turned our attention to numerous books by scientists who still believe in God and practice some kind of faith. I myself am not religious, but when you go to school in the South, you'll encounter some practicing Methodist/Baptist/whatever doctors, vets, etc. I bring this up only because if your goal is to go to UGA for vet school and they're giving us class lectures like this, clearly they don't care if you went to a religious school or participated in religious activities.
 
I think that your B in English won't be as much of an issue as that you need more varied experience. You have a little while to get it it sounds like, but finding things that are uncommon for people to have on their applications. At least that is the advise I've chosen to take. Your GPA is important, but without really really good experience it won't matter. YKWIM? Any zoos around you could try to weasel into? 🙂
 
I actually go to UGA for my undergrad. In our intro bio class (BIOL 1107) my freshman year, we had an entire class discussion regarding religion before starting the topic of evolution and Darwin. Our professor turned our attention to numerous books by scientists who still believe in God and practice some kind of faith. I myself am not religious, but when you go to school in the South, you'll encounter some practicing Methodist/Baptist/whatever doctors, vets, etc. I bring this up only because if your goal is to go to UGA for vet school and they're giving us class lectures like this, clearly they don't care if you went to a religious school or participated in religious activities.

It's not just in the south. There are plenty of religious people in vet school. Most vet schools I think have a Christian Veterinary Fellowship club, and in some schools it is very active. Becoming a scientist/doctor does not mean you have to renounce your faith.

Once you are a vet, as long as you practice according to your state practice act, you can believe in whatever you'd like. When you're in vet school, it doesn't matter what your belief is as long as you are able and willing to perform essential functions required by each vet school.

Obviously, if you came right out during your interview and said something along the lines of how you don't believe in antibiotic resistance because you don't believe in evolution or something... then that might adversely affect your chances of getting in. But being religious on its own won't matter. They really don't care. In fact, they're not even allowed to ask you about it. If anything, I'm sure that saying you were heavily involved in a church community, or religious club at school will be seen positively because it shows commitment and makes you a real-person and not a pre-vet machine.
 
I live in the boondocks.
The vets here are old fashioned and they don't believe in "fixing" they believe if they can't give an animal what's in their cabinets or what they have there, you might as well just euthanize. They aren't detective-like, they don't like solving the problem, they just want to finish the day so they can go play golf or get home to a supper of collard greens, sweet tea, and country fried steak.

Unfortunately.

They don't go out on farms. We really don't have veterinarian farm service here because people do their own vaccines and if something is wrong with the cow, they just take it to the slaughter, even if it won't be used for meat or anything.
They don't do anything here, however, I did receive my thousand hours worth of experience, still :/
 
I live in the boondocks.
The vets here are old fashioned and they don't believe in "fixing" they believe if they can't give an animal what's in their cabinets or what they have there, you might as well just euthanize. They aren't detective-like, they don't like solving the problem, they just want to finish the day so they can go play golf or get home to a supper of collard greens, sweet tea, and country fried steak.


I'd be a little more reluctant, if I were you, to be so quick to criticize people that are likely to be your future peers. Especially when you really have no clue what business pressures they might be under.

I can think of all sorts of good reasons that those vets may not be practicing the level of medicine that in your inexpert option you'd like to see.
 
I'd be a little more reluctant, if I were you, to be so quick to criticize people that are likely to be your future peers. Especially when you really have no clue what business pressures they might be under.

I can think of all sorts of good reasons that those vets may not be practicing the level of medicine that in your inexpert option you'd like to see.

I have to agree. If you live in a what appears to sound like a rural (and therefore likely poor), very religious, old fashioned place, a lot of clients simply aren't willing to pay a vet to do much beyond the basics on the shelf. It may not be them not bothering to do more, but they they can't because of the client's own finances/opinions of the animal's worth. Trust me from having lived in the deep South for a while - many people will laugh at you if you even suggest spaying something or taking a tumor off something. They just want you to give it a show of antibiotics and move on. Sucks, but that's how it goes.
 
just wanted to agree that a B in one class, especially non-science, will certainly not kill you. I had an entire 2.0 semester (including 3 Cs and 1 D) in law school, and while it pulled down my GPA, it didn't kill my chances. i got a bunch of interviews and got accepted to at least one school this cycle. so just concentrate on getting the best grades and experience you can while staying happy and social, and a B or two (or more) won't matter too much. you'll find a school that wants you for you! i know it seems daunting at first, but with a couple of semesters under your belt, i think you'll be a lot more comfortable with the gazillion things to do before you get admitted.
 
I'd be a little more reluctant, if I were you, to be so quick to criticize people that are likely to be your future peers. Especially when you really have no clue what business pressures they might be under.

I can think of all sorts of good reasons that those vets may not be practicing the level of medicine that in your inexpert option you'd like to see.

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From what you've told us, your experience is almost solely small animal. You have to understand that companion animal medicine and production animal medicine are VASTLY different fields. Small animal medicine is entirely focused on the individual, and some owners will even have a "spare no expense" attitude towards their pet's care. On the farm, you have to prioritize, and the health of the herd often has to come before the health of an individual. Should the farmer spend thousands on a DA surgery for a mid-range producing dairy cow, at the risk of not being able to afford vaccinations for his calves next month? Often slaughtering that animal and getting a couple bucks for her meat makes a lot more sense, and an LA vet knows this. At this point in time, as a freshman in undergrad, it's really not your place to pass snap judgments on that vet's choices. ESPECIALLY since you may find yourself counting on those same veterinarians to help you get experience in the future.


I'm going to make an observation that's going to sound mean, but I promise it isn't meant to be. I've noticed a trend in several of your threads: you start by asking for help or advice, then quickly turn to blaming everyone else (your professors, your school, your local vets) for everything (your grades, your lack of extracurricular activities, trouble finding experience). In order to really be successful in this or any field, you really need to accepting responsibility for your actions, and take control of your own path. You can point fingers all you want, but in four years when you're sitting in an interview for your top school, they' re going to want to know what YOU'VE done to prepare yourself for this career. They aren't going to tolerate excuses, and they certainly aren't going to appreciate you criticizing the practices of other vets.

As someone who was once a freshman and did a lot of blaming other people herself, I can tell you from experience that things will go a lot more smoothly for you once you stop pointing fingers and start holding yourself accountable for your own education and experiences. 🙂
 
Keep in mind that a lot of people who end up in vet school were never on the "pre-vet" track. I would suggest trying to venture outside your closed box of doing anything and everything for veterinary school and enjoy yourself.

True fact. While you are getting your pre-reqs taken care of, do you best to find great experiences that make you stand out from the robot biology/animal-science crowd. And not just animal/vet experiences, although those hours are important. Maybe if you love something else as well as vet med, major in a non-science! You can knock out those prereqs, take some high-level grad courses to show you have the ability, and you'll stand out from the crowd when you apply.

Also, CHILL OUT. If you're wound this tight when you hit vet school you will fail. Learn to roll with the punches, especially if you know you did your best work. Because this is probably not the last B you'll get.
 
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From what you've told us, your experience is almost solely small animal. You have to understand that companion animal medicine and production animal medicine are VASTLY different fields. Small animal medicine is entirely focused on the individual, and some owners will even have a "spare no expense" attitude towards their pet's care. On the farm, you have to prioritize, and the health of the herd often has to come before the health of an individual. Should the farmer spend thousands on a DA surgery for a mid-range producing dairy cow, at the risk of not being able to afford vaccinations for his calves next month? Often slaughtering that animal and getting a couple bucks for her meat makes a lot more sense, and an LA vet knows this. At this point in time, as a freshman in undergrad, it's really not your place to pass snap judgments on that vet's choices. ESPECIALLY since you may find yourself counting on those same veterinarians to help you get experience in the future.


I'm going to make an observation that's going to sound mean, but I promise it isn't meant to be. I've noticed a trend in several of your threads: you start by asking for help or advice, then quickly turn to blaming everyone else (your professors, your school, your local vets) for everything (your grades, your lack of extracurricular activities, trouble finding experience). In order to really be successful in this or any field, you really need to accepting responsibility for your actions, and take control of your own path. You can point fingers all you want, but in four years when you're sitting in an interview for your top school, they' re going to want to know what YOU'VE done to prepare yourself for this career. They aren't going to tolerate excuses, and they certainly aren't going to appreciate you criticizing the practices of other vets.

As someone who was once a freshman and did a lot of blaming other people herself, I can tell you from experience that things will go a lot more smoothly for you once you stop pointing fingers and start holding yourself accountable for your own education and experiences. 🙂

Well, the vet that is here does do mainly small animal, because he's elderly and doesn't tend to go out to the farms, but when he does, it's euthanasia and no "fixing." However, as far as advice goes, he does help, he is also helpful since he used to run the interviews for UGA when they had interviews, but as far as the action goes, not really. My family has known both of the vets for fourteen years, so I do know of how they like to do things, as I spent right at three years working with them, however, since they are PAST retirement age, they still like to do things old-fashioned and it seems as if they've always been about the money in regards to it. He even told me the story about how when he was in the 11th grade, at the counselors office, he saw a brochure about veterinary, saw the salary listed, and right then and there, he made the decision to pursue it.
One time, I brought a client back because an out of town client wanted us to give the cat a pill (a pill that the client had, we didn't have to furnish). He shoved it down the cat's throat and said, "put down twenty dollars," so I said, "twenty?" he said, "if he scratched me, it would've been forty." That's something that could of been done for free and it wouldn't of bothered anyone. Most of the money he makes is from out of town clients, since this town is where you have to go through in order to get to the tourists destinations. So, he does make a lot of money, but many people have said he's kind of lost his heart over the years because of the money. We, unfortunately, had no official vet tech. Most of the girls that were there came there as teenagers and dropped out of high school. The highest education is failed massage therapy school...and the minimum wage in the state is $5.15 (below federal) so the employees literally do get whatever job they can with their education background. I just wish it was different, but it isn't. However, since I still am thinking about transferring for my major, there will be more opportunities made available (excuse my mild rant).


I did say cows in my last part of the statement, however, as far as discovering the reason of the illness, it was mainly in reference to horses. And yes, we do slaughter horses here.


But thank you, I appreciate it.
Truthfully, I'm just messed up beyond belief right now. All I do is worry if I'm getting into veterinary school or not. I'm also going to be taking twelve credit hours in the summer (eight hours a day, five days a week). And yes, I did have a ton of extra-curriculars, but I dropped them because I wanted to study. And yes, before you ask, I do have friends, and a pre-vet boyfriend who is just like I am.

I'm also taking classes outside of my major and pre-reqs. I'm going for a Business Administration minor.

But you are right. I do tend to point the fingers a lot. My stress is causing me a lot of anger.
 
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One time, I brought a client back because an out of town client wanted us to give the cat a pill (a pill that the client had, we didn't have to furnish). He shoved it down the cat's throat and said, "put down twenty dollars," so I said, "twenty?" he said, "if he scratched me, it would've been forty." That's something that could of been done for free and it wouldn't of bothered anyone.



I have to step in here, because this is a VERY important part of veterinary economics.

We already get paid pittance for what we do. We simply cannot afford to give things away for free, be they nail clips, pilling, hygienic grooming, etc.

He provided a service. He should be paid for that service, no matter how small.

This was beaten into my head in my veterinary economics seminars. Do not give things for free. You paid in insane amount for your education, you and your staff cannot afford to give things away.

We as vets tend to throw in a lot of "freebies" and ultimately it really hurt the practice. Because once you give one person a freebie, you start giving everytbody freebies. A nail trim is free...heck, maybe he can just lop off that little skin tag for free, etc...you see what I mean?
 
I have to step in here, because this is a VERY important part of veterinary economics.

We already get paid pittance for what we do. We simply cannot afford to give things away for free, be they nail clips, pilling, hygenic grooming, etc.

He provided a service. He should be paid for that service, no matter how small.

This was beaten into my head in my veterinary economics seminars. Do not give things for free. You paid in insane amount for your education, you and your staff cannot afford to give things away.

We as vets tend to throw in a lot of "freebies" and ultimately it really hurt the practice. Because once you give one person a freebie, you start giving everytbody freebies. A nail trim is free...heck, maybe he can just lop off that little skin tag for free, etc...you see what I mean?

Agreed, that is definitely gonna be the hardest part for me but you would never find a human doctor giving away free things. They bill what they perform, and there is nothing wrong with veterinarians doing the same. If you don't want to pay for it, you can go home and do it yourself. (I mean that in the nicest way possible). 😀
 
I have to step in here, because this is a VERY important part of veterinary economics.

We already get paid pittance for what we do. We simply cannot afford to give things away for free, be they nail clips, pilling, hygienic grooming, etc.

He provided a service. He should be paid for that service, no matter how small.

This was beaten into my head in my veterinary economics seminars. Do not give things for free. You paid in insane amount for your education, you and your staff cannot afford to give things away.

We as vets tend to throw in a lot of "freebies" and ultimately it really hurt the practice. Because once you give one person a freebie, you start giving everytbody freebies. A nail trim is free...heck, maybe he can just lop off that little skin tag for free, etc...you see what I mean?

I understand how a nail trim or any other thing takes time and such, but simply putting a pill in a cat's mouth? And if you take into consideration the price difference of education forty years ago compared to now, it's very significant. But I do understand what you mean.
 
I understand how a nail trim or any other thing takes time and such, but simply putting a pill in a cat's mouth? And if you take into consideration the price difference of education forty years ago compared to now, it's very significant. But I do understand what you mean.

But clearly the owner wasn't going to do it himself. If he sought out the professional to perform the task because HE couldn't do it, he should pay for it.
 
I understand how a nail trim or any other thing takes time and such, but simply putting a pill in a cat's mouth? And if you take into consideration the price difference of education forty years ago compared to now, it's very significant. But I do understand what you mean.

The clinics I worked at charged for pilling animals too. It wasn't a big charge, but it was still a service that we provided. If the animal was being hospitalized that was often part of the "nursing" charge, if the owner was brining the pet in to be given medication then there was a small fee for the tech to do that.
 
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