Does a post-december interview mean automatic waitlist?

[Denteal]

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How does that work if you get a post december interview. I know that on dec 3 they send out more acceptances than seats in the first place. Why would they allow interviews after if they accepted like 300 people for like 110 seats. Should one assume there is a low chance of acceptance with a post december interview?

 

[deleted945327]

How does that work if you get a post december interview. I know that on dec 3 they send out more acceptances than seats in the first place. Why would they allow interviews after if they accepted like 300 people for like 110 seats. Should one assume there is a low chance of acceptance with a post december interview?

No school accepts 300 students if there is only 110 seats. That’s way too many to accept. There isn’t a “low” chance, but it definitely isn’t as good as a chance as pre-December interviews.

 

[flossy_p]

Just a guess,
but some schools accept hypothetically 50-65% initially (leaning towards the upper % range ~65%) of their class pre-dec and waitlist or reject the rest of their pre-dec.’s / apps that they don’t want

obviously some students decline their seats, so this this brings their upper range % of students accepted down to say ~low 60%,

so, they continue to interview post-dec. and as the season goes on, they fill up seats/ppl give up seats/they reject students/etc. so numbers continue to fluctuate slightly, yet steadily increase as seats continue being filled.

By the almost mid-end of pre-dec., they look at the “haven’t interviewed list of potentials” for post-dec. invites. But come March. 1, when schools know which students hold multiple seats, they adjust accordingly/ look back at their waitlisted folk, review the post-dec interviewed ppl, etc.

After interview season is over (typically end of March, beginning April) they basically have 90-93% of their class filled and by end of Apr.-May it gets to 99-100%—possibly even 101% (basically the whole class is set with a few students like 1-3 more than the class size to account for last minute fall outs, etc). If that surplus ever dips lower than their said class size they pull students from their long-ass waitlist while continuing to reject ppl.

This is the typical routine of the average school. I believe some schools might even have 70-80% of their class (maybe even 85-90%) filled pre-dec. taking into account their class size, strength/popularity of their program (i.e. Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, UCSF, etc.), sky-high tuition which deters multiple students, etc. and adjust accordingly for their school’s needs based on the infinite data from past records of their previous application processes to help them be extremely predictable, efficient, and accurate each cycle so as to prevent financial loss and wasted time.

But then again,
just my guess. 👍

 

[macsak]

Just a guess,
but some schools accept hypothetically 50-65% initially (leaning towards the upper % range ~65%) of their class pre-dec and waitlist or reject the rest of their pre-dec.’s / apps that they don’t want

obviously some students decline their seats, so this this brings their upper range % of students accepted down to say ~low 60%,

so, they continue to interview post-dec. and as the season goes on, they fill up seats/ppl give up seats/they reject students/etc. so numbers continue to fluctuate slightly, yet steadily increase as seats continue being filled.

By the almost mid-end of pre-dec., they look at the “haven’t interviewed list of potentials” for post-dec. invites. But come March. 1, when schools know which students hold multiple seats, they adjust accordingly/ look back at their waitlisted folk, review the post-dec interviewed ppl, etc.

After interview season is over (typically end of March, beginning April) they basically have 90-93% of their class filled and by end of Apr.-May it gets to 99-100%—possibly even 101% (basically the whole class is set with a few students like 1-3 more than the class size to account for last minute fall outs, etc). If that surplus ever dips lower than their said class size they pull students from their long-ass waitlist while continuing to reject ppl.

This is the typical routine of the average school. I believe some schools might even have 70-80% of their class (maybe even 85-90%) filled pre-dec. taking into account their class size, strength/popularity of their program (i.e. Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, UCSF, etc.), sky-high tuition which deters multiple students, etc. and adjust accordingly for their school’s needs based on the infinite data from past records of their previous application processes to help them be extremely predictable, efficient, and accurate each cycle so as to prevent financial loss and wasted time.

But then again,
just my guess. 👍

my guess is that the numbers on your guess are low

 

[giannis]

No school accepts 300 students if there is only 110 seats. That’s way too many to accept. There isn’t a “low” chance, but it definitely isn’t as good as a chance as pre-December interviews.

I know Temple accepts around 300 students. Class size is about 140. It really depends on the school.
NYU for example probably accepts nearly 1,000 students to fill their class.

 

[Denteal]

Just a guess,
but some schools accept hypothetically 50-65% initially (leaning towards the upper % range ~65%) of their class pre-dec and waitlist or reject the rest of their pre-dec.’s / apps that they don’t want

obviously some students decline their seats, so this this brings their upper range % of students accepted down to say ~low 60%,

so, they continue to interview post-dec. and as the season goes on, they fill up seats/ppl give up seats/they reject students/etc. so numbers continue to fluctuate slightly, yet steadily increase as seats continue being filled.

By the almost mid-end of pre-dec., they look at the “haven’t interviewed list of potentials” for post-dec. invites. But come March. 1, when schools know which students hold multiple seats, they adjust accordingly/ look back at their waitlisted folk, review the post-dec interviewed ppl, etc.

After interview season is over (typically end of March, beginning April) they basically have 90-93% of their class filled and by end of Apr.-May it gets to 99-100%—possibly even 101% (basically the whole class is set with a few students like 1-3 more than the class size to account for last minute fall outs, etc). If that surplus ever dips lower than their said class size they pull students from their long-ass waitlist while continuing to reject ppl.

This is the typical routine of the average school. I believe some schools might even have 70-80% of their class (maybe even 85-90%) filled pre-dec. taking into account their class size, strength/popularity of their program (i.e. Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, UCSF, etc.), sky-high tuition which deters multiple students, etc. and adjust accordingly for their school’s needs based on the infinite data from past records of their previous application processes to help them be extremely predictable, efficient, and accurate each cycle so as to prevent financial loss and wasted time.

But then again,
just my guess. 👍

So, i ask because I have a jan interview, should i assume theres very low chance of acceptance based on what you say?

 

[chris ergot]

So, i ask because I have a jan interview, should i assume theres very low chance of acceptance based on what you say?

correct

 

[princeafrica]

How does that work if you get a post december interview. I know that on dec 3 they send out more acceptances than seats in the first place. Why would they allow interviews after if they accepted like 300 people for like 110 seats. Should one assume there is a low chance of acceptance with a post december interview?

I don’t think all the schools give out all their seats on December 2nd. I know Colorado doesn’t accept 80 students(class size) on December 2nd. Colorado also “saves” some seats for their post December interviews for students that they give out interviews late because they submitted later.

I think generally if you have an interview you have a pretty good chance. They wouldn’t waste their time interviewing you if they didn’t think you have a shot. Give it your best!

 

[Mason91]

I know Temple accepts around 300 students. Class size is about 140. It really depends on the school.
NYU for example probably accepts nearly 1,000 students to fill their class.

Um... I don't think that's how it works... They can't accept more than their class size assuming not everyone will accept their offer... Even if 50% of them accept, that means they're overfilled.
I'm pretty certain most schools accept how many ever their class size is and then send out post-December acceptances based on how many people accept/decline.

 

[macsak]

Um... I don't think that's how it works... They can't accept more than their class size assuming not everyone will accept their offer... Even if 50% of them accept, that means they're overfilled.
I'm pretty certain most schools accept how many ever their class size is and then send out post-December acceptances based on how many people accept/decline.

Giannis didn't say they send out 300 invites on opening day
the statistics for offers are published...

 

[flossy_p]

in the end we all don't actually know because every school has different strategies and game plans
and it differs from year to year with the number of ppl who commit or not with their acceptance to each school
so lessall chillll my friends
it's almost 2020.

 

[princeafrica]

Um... I don't think that's how it works... They can't accept more than their class size assuming not everyone will accept their offer... Even if 50% of them accept, that means they're overfilled.
I'm pretty certain most schools accept how many ever their class size is and then send out post-December acceptances based on how many people accept/decline.

A few years back Stanford or Yale medical school overshot and more people than they expected accepted their offers. So they gave financial incentives to students to start later lol.

Midwestern AZ when I interviewed also mentioned they accepted more students in December than their class size

Depends on the school

 

[flossy_p]

bottom-line,
post-dec. is when they recalibrate after going back to the drawing boards and invite people for interviews
so that they can fill their class in the end and have an appropriate/healthy waitlist option that will account for any possible mishaps that arise.