Does it really matter where you went for your dds/dmd?

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i am planing to go cheapest dental school. My family cant support me. i am the oldest kid and i don't wanna get a lot of loan. therefore, i am deciding to go to cheap dental school. will it affect my career? does school name matters?
 
i am planing to go cheapest dental school. My family cant support me. i am the oldest kid and i don't wanna get a lot of loan. therefore, i am deciding to go to cheap dental school. will it affect my career? does school name matters?

BRAVO, someone who is thinking about how they can lower their education costs. The name of your dental school makes no difference out in practice.
 
No.

Your interpersonal communication skills matter 100x's more than where you went to school.
 
This has been discussed more than once. Cost is a large consideration but it is foolish too think that where you go to dental school has no influence on your career. And i find it strange regmata that you put such a huge emphasis on where your residency is at but think dental school doesnt matter. Non sensical to me.
 
I am not entirely sure what you are referring to when you state that I place a huge emphasis on where someone does their post-graduate training. However, I will contend that differences in post-grad programs are larger than differences in dental schools. The potential for differences between programs is particularly high with OMFS, due to a broad scope that not all programs cover. Thus, if you want to do head and neck or cosmetic surgery, where you train will have a huge impact on your ability to practice. Where you went to dental school will not.

Nor will where you went to dental school have much, if any impact on your career as a general dentist. There is very little variation between dental school curriculums.

Furthermore, the OP did not expressly ask if the dental school he or she chooses will effect his or her ability to specialize. If they had, I suppose my answer would change to minimally. It is my position that ones ability to specialize comes from their own abilities, dedication and hard work rather than the name of a school on their transcript. If the OP is subject to financial hardship, then the difference of impact between the cost of a high priced, big name university versus a lower cost dental school on their career will not provide a benefit that outweighs the insurmountable cost.
 
I was referring to your contention that OSU DA trains better than Pitt

And you think the scope of omfs is broader than dental school? I tend to disagree. I think omfs is more difficult, but doing an endo compared to making a denture? There's very little skill overlap. I think where you go to school can influence your skills for a long time out of school.

Someone who saw no rotary molar endo in dental school isnt very likely to do any after graduation. Someone who never restored an implant isnt going to start straight out. A school that gives the students the ability to work on sedated patients will be far more comfortable doing so when they come out.

I dont think what school you go to will make or break you, but i still say it matters.
 
This has been discussed more than once.

Actually this issue has been beaten to death, it comes up like every other week. If these new posters would actually do a search, they would see the answers they seek regarding this topic.
 
If I recall, I said that since both programs provide similar training, I would have to consider OSU the better program because it provides comparable training in 27 months vs. 36.

It seems that you misunderstood my previous post, so I will break it down for you. I didn't claim that OMFS residency covers a broader scope than dental school (although I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who had a reasonable understanding of the two that would argue otherwise). I stated that oral surgery is such a broad specialty that not all programs cover the entire scope and thus, where you train greatly impacts your scope of practice. You can't take a weekend CE course to learn head and neck cancer or face lifts.

All dental schools cover endo, pros, periodontal and to some degree, implants. Scope aside, the curriculum between dental schools is nearly identical. I would wager that there us not a dental school in the country that adequately covers implant placement or restoration, leaving graduates having to seek further education anyway. As for rotary endo, it is a hell of a lot easier than hand files. Just watch the dvd that comes with the kit and go to town. If you get into trouble, it is probably because you tried to tackle a tooth that was beyond your skill level, not because your school didn't cover rotary files.

Fact is that dental school gives you a basic set of skills that enables you to go out into the world and practice dentistry, but largely leaves you unprepared to practice the breadth of the field. All recent grads, hell, all dentists must commit to continually furthering their education and skill set throughout their careers.
 
I would wager that there us not a dental school in the country that adequately covers implant placement or restoration, leaving graduates having to seek further education anyway.

From what I've heard and seen, Creighton gets pretty darn close
 
"No" for patients who don't care.
"Yes" for patients that look up a dentist's credential and specialty program admissions.
 
I don't think going to cheap school will affect your career.
However your patients may ask you about it in future.
 
Someone who saw no rotary molar endo in dental school isnt very likely to do any after graduation. Someone who never restored an implant isnt going to start straight out. A school that gives the students the ability to work on sedated patients will be far more comfortable doing so when they come out.

I dont think what school you go to will make or break you, but i still say it matters.

It's called "Continuing Education." There are many dentists out there who graduated in the days of hand filing but use rotary filing now because they did some CE to learn how. Actually, there are even more that graduated when doing bridges was the standard because implants didn't exist yet those same guys now know how to restore implants and many even got the training to place the implants themselves.

If you go to the cheaper school, you will have money left when repaying your loans to take some quality CE courses and keep up with the changing practice of clinical dentistry throughout your career.
 
It's called "Continuing Education." There are many dentists out there who graduated in the days of hand filing but use rotary filing now because they did some CE to learn how. Actually, there are even more that graduated when doing bridges was the standard because implants didn't exist yet those same guys now know how to restore implants and many even got the training to place the implants themselves.

If you go to the cheaper school, you will have money left when repaying your loans to take some quality CE courses and keep up with the changing practice of clinical dentistry throughout your career.

So you think you should save money in school and do continuing ed with that
Money instead?
 
It's called "Continuing Education." There are many dentists out there who graduated in the days of hand filing but use rotary filing now because they did some CE to learn how. Actually, there are even more that graduated when doing bridges was the standard because implants didn't exist yet those same guys now know how to restore implants and many even got the training to place the implants themselves.

If you go to the cheaper school, you will have money left when repaying your loans to take some quality CE courses and keep up with the changing practice of clinical dentistry throughout your career.

While this may appear true, most CE courses are weekend jobs that often focus more on location, social events and obtaining "credits for state boards" rather than course content. Very few courses have true hands-on direct learning.

Learning in an academic setting cannot be fully replaced by CE alone. Starting with rotary endo from the beginning or having implant dentistry throughout when you are learning tooth dentistry is awesome. These things become routine and if you have the opportunity, it's better to pick this up in dental school than "having to take CE." It's easier said than done taking time out of your practice schedule to attend meaningful CE courses vs. "weekend-warrior" courses.

I really studied the cost-benefiit analysis of years of expensive CE and salary vs. no salary (being a resident) and I went back for prosthodontic education. Best decision I ever made. 30+ years of CE in 3 years and they paid me to do it. Granted I miss out on 3 years of private practice income, there are studies clearly demonstrating the value.

With all of this being said, the best decision you can make is to go to the cheaper school, within reason. Meaning, if it costs 30k a year to go to an average to below average clinical school and 35k a year to go to a better clinical school... spend the extra 5k a year. It is probably worth it... but be careful because you may be swindled into thinking that a major city school (NYU, USC) will provide you with a better education than a cheaper in-state school. Remember, they need to create value in an 80k+ tuition program vs. in-state schools 🙂
 
Location , location, location! You want to attend the school that is in the middle of low-income area. Most patients can't afford private practice fee, they don't have a job and so they can afford to spend hours and hours of fun in your chair! I was able to find my board patients at my state school and drive them with me to the next state to take the board exam. I paid them $50 a day (there were two) and they were so happy to be dental patients! Plus, it was easy to meet all the clinical requirements way ahead of the schedule as well!

On the other hand, my friends from UCLA dental school (near Beverly Hills) said it was tough to meet their clinical requirements because there were so few patients! USC grads were more confident in their clinical experience (can't verify this though, never worked with a USC grad directly...)
 
"No" for patients who don't care.
"Yes" for patients that look up a dentist's credential and specialty program admissions.

Right on.

Also, everyone is always going to disagree on this.
I feel that it can go either way.
If you are applying for a position whether it be for to be an associate or for a residency position and whoever is looking at your application happens to care about where you went, then yes it does matter.
To be honest, if I were deciding between 10 people for a position and each of them had a 3.7 gpa and the same standardized exam scores, and similar EC's then yea, where they went to school will be the another tool that I would use to select for them. In addition, I would regard somewhere like UCLA higher than Western.
 
Right on.

Also, everyone is always going to disagree on this.
I feel that it can go either way.
If you are applying for a position whether it be for to be an associate or for a residency position and whoever is looking at your application happens to care about where you went, then yes it does matter.
To be honest, if I were deciding between 10 people for a position and each of them had a 3.7 gpa and the same standardized exam scores, and similar EC's then yea, where they went to school will be the another tool that I would use to select for them. In addition, I would regard somewhere like UCLA higher than Western.

It seems that the next criteria would be what their department faculty thinks of the said candidate. Many faculty and directors of these specialty programs have friends at other schools that they talk to to see if the applicant is up to snuff.
 
Question comes up every few weeks and the overwhelming response from us dentists is NO.
 
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