Does there need to be more lesbian/gay issues taught in medical school?

[Pharmavixen]

A study has found that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender related content gets barely any time in medical schools.

44 medical schools reported dedicating no teaching time to LGBT-related content during clinical years, and in preclinical curricula, nine medical schools reported spending no time on LGBT issues, according to a study published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

Surveys used in the study were distributed to all 176 allopathic (conventional) and osteopathic medical schools in the U.S. and Canada, and 85% of schools responded.

Across all medical schools that participated, the median time spent on LGBT-related content was just five hours, though time spent varied widely by school.

Question for folks: is more time needed to treat these patients effectively?

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[dynx]

A study has found that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender related content gets barely any time in medical schools.



Question for folks: is more time needed to treat these patients effectively?

What? you'd put it back in the DSM?

 

[Pharmavixen]

What? you'd put it back in the DSM?

😀

Thanks for that! I've already been called insensitive in another forum for insisting that LGBT is not a disorder requiring medical treatment.

 

[dpmd]

I guess it would be stuff like types of activities engaged in by lesbian/gay individuals and how this affects their risk of certain diseases. Or how to deal with complications that might occur due to hormone therapy for transgender individuals. Maybe there is some other stuff that makes a difference that I just never heard of. They could put it in the same section where I learned little tibdits like certain cultures don't want me to shake hands with them, others still believe in the sin origin of disease, and some medications work better for certain races than others. You know, that same class where you have to read "The Spirit Catches You And You Fall Down" and talk about taking care of a patient when the parent's don't believe what you say. I never really knew how to feel about that stuff, but learning about issues unique to Hmong people is certainly less likely to be directly useful to me as opposed to LGBT folks (who I actually have taken care of in residency)

 

[Socrates25]

while we're at it we should cut out pathophysiology so we can learn about the "down low" subculture of gay african americans so we can relate to them better. there's a very important social dynamic there that doctors dont learn in med school, and its racist to lump them in white caucasian LGBT community 🙄

God I swear some of you people want us to turn med school into nursing school so that we can claim we provide "holistic care for all populations" just like the NP mantra. Unbelievable.

Feel free to pony up another 50k for an extra year of med school so you can learn how to sing cumbayah in arabic, let you offend your muslim patients because you dont speak their language.

 

[Instatewaiter]

while we're at it we should cut out pathophysiology so we can learn about the "down low" subculture of gay african americans so we can relate to them better. there's a very important social dynamic there that doctors dont learn in med school, and its racist to lump them in white caucasian LGBT community 🙄

God I swear some of you people want us to turn med school into nursing school so that we can claim we provide "holistic care for all populations" just like the NP mantra. Unbelievable.

Feel free to pony up another 50k for an extra year of med school so you can learn how to sing cumbayah in arabic, let you offend your muslim patients because you dont speak their language.

This PC BS has already started to creep its way into Hopkins and supplant core clnical education. Instead of spending a few months doing a clinical skills course during their second year, the students have to learn about all sorts of touchy feely bullshit in an effort to make them better physicians. The ironic thing is that this is making them worse clinically. Multiple attendings have complained that the third years are poorly prepared compared to previously.

Thank goodness they will be able to hold their patients' hands and cry with them while their incompetence kills the patient...

 

[DoctwoB]

This PC BS has already started to creep its way into Hopkins and supplant core clnical education. Instead of spending a few months doing a clinical skills course during their second year, the students have to learn about all sorts of touchy feely bullshit in an effort to make them better physicians. The ironic thing is that this is making them worse clinically. Multiple attendings have complained that the third years are poorly prepared compared to previously.

Thank goodness they will be able to hold their patients' hands and cry with them while their incompetence kills the patient...

Agreed. All the touchy-feely stuff comes down to two main points. Respect and Empathy. And while those are both very important, good luck trying to teach them.

 

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[DreamingTheLive]

A study has found that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender related content gets barely any time in medical schools.



Question for folks: is more time needed to treat these patients effectively?

No. That's a "You" problem, not a "Medicine" problem. A few craggy 60-year old physicians don't like LGBT patients, and now our generation gets to pay for it in spades.....with endless fruitless powerpoints, lectures, discussions.......😴

 

[lee9786]

Homosexuals by and large don't seem to believe anything is wrong with them so why waste time teaching it in med school? I guess they could point out the human genome project didn't identify a "gay" gene. If there is something wrong, would popping a pill help any?

If the biblical view is correct which many including scientists (read in 6 days) believe it is the source of absolute truth, homosexuality is suggested to be a generational curse with sin as the source.

Not a popular message in our Anti-Christ super culture.

 

[Instatewaiter]

Homosexuals by and large don't seem to believe anything is wrong with them so why waste time teaching it in med school? I guess they could point out the human genome project didn't identify a "gay" gene. If there is something wrong, would popping a pill help any?

If the biblical view is correct which many including scientists (read in 6 days) believe it is the source of absolute truth, homosexuality is suggested to be a generational curse with sin as the source.

Not a popular message in our Anti-Christ super culture.

I would like to point out that there is a difference between being christian and being so much of an idiot that you take a figurative book literally.

 

[Apollyon]

Homosexuals by and large don't seem to believe anything is wrong with them so why waste time teaching it in med school? I guess they could point out the human genome project didn't identify a "gay" gene. If there is something wrong, would popping a pill help any?

This is possibly the most cogent viewpoint on this topic.

In another thread, some poster was going on about "problems unique to the LGBTQAA (yes) community". What unique problems are there, that non-heterosexuals only get? None. Not one. There are health conditions more often represented in various subgroups, for various reasons (like HIV and anal warts in male receptive anal sex practitioners, and heart disease in lesbian females, due to not seeing health care practitioners regularly and in a timely manner, and depression and other mental illness due to societal & internal pressures), but none are unique to the non-hetero group, except maybe gender identification disorder (ipso facto).

But what about Tay-Sachs? Sickle cell anemia? Again, problems more highly represented in certain groups, but not unique to them.

Did I receive any education in "lesbian/gay issues" in med school? No. Did I want any? No. Does it affect my perceptions of my patient base (with, especially, transgender represented in my island community)? No. What issue would be discussed? If they're not medical issues - which can be covered in one lecture - then, are they even germane? What about when some student complains that he is not getting lectures on Republican or Communist issues?

 

[Socrates25]

This PC BS has already started to creep its way into Hopkins and supplant core clnical education. Instead of spending a few months doing a clinical skills course during their second year, the students have to learn about all sorts of touchy feely bullshit in an effort to make them better physicians. The ironic thing is that this is making them worse clinically. Multiple attendings have complained that the third years are poorly prepared compared to previously.

Thank goodness they will be able to hold their patients' hands and cry with them while their incompetence kills the patient...

I know, I graduated from Hopkins. Let me guess, they still make you do that stupid bull**** where you have to go "spend an evening" with a gay person so you can "relate" to their struggles. I also seem to recall a tall/thin black dude with crazy colored hair who served as one of their standardized actors. Hopkins used to do a "breaking bad news" patient scenario where you had to tell him he was HIV positive. He would criticize anybody who didnt give him a hug because "you didnt make me feel welcome unless you put your hands on me."

There's a couple of psycho bitch faculty (adolescent medicine and ob/gyn I think?) who used to run that patient/society crap over there. The real issue is that the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation keeps giving Hopkins milllions of dollars to run these bull**** programs because they are firm believer that its more important to cry with your patient than to actually know any medicine.

 

[Instatewaiter]

I know, I graduated from Hopkins. Let me guess, they still make you do that stupid bull**** where you have to go "spend an evening" with a gay person so you can "relate" to their struggles. I also seem to recall a tall/thin black dude with crazy colored hair who served as one of their standardized actors. Hopkins used to do a "breaking bad news" patient scenario where you had to tell him he was HIV positive. He would criticize anybody who didnt give him a hug because "you didnt make me feel welcome unless you put your hands on me."

There's a couple of psycho bitch faculty (adolescent medicine and ob/gyn I think?) who used to run that patient/society crap over there. The real issue is that the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation keeps giving Hopkins milllions of dollars to run these bull**** programs because they are firm believer that its more important to cry with your patient than to actually know any medicine.

No it's worse than when you were a med student. Much apparently.

 

[DOC PENGUIN]

No it's worse than when you were a med student. Much apparently.

Agreed. Medical school should be about medicine not personal items.

 

[PetMySausage]

Luckily, this isn't an issue in vet. med, except for that one pair of penguins that made the news.