Does your mcat score correlate to your USMLE

[immanuel11421]

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I did ok in BS and PS in Mcat. But I really sucks at Verbal. I was planning to go to Carribean for MD if not one accept me in US.

But does the how well u do in Mcat correlate to how well u'll do in medical school and USMLE?
I don't want to go to medical school and not be able to graduate and practice medicine, that will be a disaster....
English is not my first language. I speak and read fine but never fast enough like most native speakers.
Is that going to be a problem in medical school?
In general, can u kind of predict how well someone will do in medical school based on their previous mcat score?

 

[Naijaba]

I did ok in BS and PS in Mcat. But I really sucks at Verbal. I was planning to go to Carribean for MD if not one accept me in US.

But does the how well u do in Mcat correlate to how well u'll do in medical school and USMLE?
I don't want to go to medical school and not be able to graduate and practice medicine, that will be a disaster....
English is not my first language. I speak and read fine but never fast enough like most native speakers.
Is that going to be a problem in medical school?
In general, can u kind of predict how well someone will do in medical school based on their previous mcat score?

In general, yes.

here. ya. go.:

http://pdfs.journals.lww.com/academ...iIYTCGiEX23hvUO;hash|AAnR6CcejnMbZwmWVli1Ww==

 

[Omni]

I believe AAMC found a noticeable correlation between MCAT VR and how the doctor performs in terms of reading on the job and on the USMLE etc.

 

[DRMRL]

BS has a strong correlation

 

[MilkmanAl]

No, BS has the strongest correlation, but the link is still pretty weak. I think it was r=.5 or something.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

r=0.7 from what i remember.

 

[apumic]

I did ok in BS and PS in Mcat. But I really sucks at Verbal. I was planning to go to Carribean for MD if not one accept me in US.

But does the how well u do in Mcat correlate to how well u'll do in medical school and USMLE?
I don't want to go to medical school and not be able to graduate and practice medicine, that will be a disaster....
English is not my first language. I speak and read fine but never fast enough like most native speakers.
Is that going to be a problem in medical school?
In general, can u kind of predict how well someone will do in medical school based on their previous mcat score?

It's totally understandable, but your post alone tells us your English skills are subpar, which may be prohibitive to your medical career. Obviously, you will have difficulty on the USMLE if you're reading is subpar, but you will likely also find it difficult to write satisfactory medical reports (i.e., both understandable and clearly written with brevity and proper detail), communicate w/ patients in English when you need to use layman's language to simplify complex medical conditions, etc. I suspect that if your English is weak, these and other tasks may be extremely difficult for you to perform satisfactorily. How long have you lived in an English-speaking country? I would expect that if your language skills are weak it would be hard for you to pass a medical school interview without some concern by your interviewers even if your MCAT were strong besides an average VR section. (Obviously, a strong VR section w/ a strong writing section score as well would probably discount those questions.)

 

[MilkmanAl]

r=0.7 from what i remember.

0.553, according to some study I Googled.

 

[Rawls87]

If you read among these forums, you'll hear from many medical students that many of their classmates who scored well below 30 on the MCAT have ended up doing superb on the USMLE. Medical school, once you get in, is a clean slate for people and when they realize that it's like their a new and rejuvenated person.

If you're asking this question because you're worried you might not do well on Step 1, my suggestion is to not worry about one bit and wait till the day comes when you're actually learning the material for that exam.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

0.553, according to some study I Googled.

i'll look this up tomorrow, but there are varying figures and the most recent one was definitely higher

 

[MilkmanAl]

Even so, .7 isn't really all that impressive for something that seems like it should be intuitive.

 

[apumic]

Even so, .7 isn't really all that impressive for something that seems like it should be intuitive.

Considering that most psychometrics don't have test-retest reliability on the same test (by definition) of much higher than .7-.9 (w/ intelligence psychometrics being closer to .9), this actually isn't as bad as you make it out to be. It means that ~50% of the variance is accounted for by the test itself and not other factors. I doubt the USMLE Step 1 or MCAT itself is much above .8 on its reliability, although I could certainly be wrong as I haven't gone and looked it up. When looking at such things as psychometrics (which is covered by the research methods of psychology), the expectations aren't the same as when doing research in a field like chemistry, biology, or physics. Obviously, if we found that, holding all else constant (e.g., vasoconstriction/dilation), the correlation between blood volume and blood pressure was only .7, we'd probably have some questions, but testing how a person performs on a test is a bit more complicated since a human being's performance on a psychometric evaluation is affected by so many external (and oftentimes unknown) factors.

 

[bannie22]

even if its .5, i think thats a very very strong correlation.

 

[J ROD]

For me, I hate Physics and just dont get it easily.

Step 1 does not have that, right! So, I expect overall to do better but then you are also going against med students and not premeds...higher caliber of students.

In the end, it is just an other obstacle but this time I am not fighting to get in. Plus, I want only mildly competitive residencies and could live with some of the bottom ones....so I feel alot less pressure like I did when thinking about the MCAT. 👍

 

[J ROD]

good standardized testtakers usually remain good standardized testtakers.....🙂

 

[Depakote]

good standardized testtakers usually remain good standardized testtakers.....🙂

I agree with this.

If you nail the MCAT on your first go, you'll probably do well on Step I and probably adapt well to NBME shelf exams. The material you study is different, but you can approach the tests roughly the same way.

 

[ezsanche]

i would think that only the scores from the biology section of the mcat would be a decent predictor of usmle step 1 scores since that section is the only thing on the mcat that is even remotely similar to the step 1 test.