Dr. beary?

[b&ierstiefel]

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How was the thesis defense?

 

[beary]

How was the thesis defense?

Thanks for remembering - it went fine!! I sure was nervous that day, but once I got up there and started talking I was fine. The defense only took about half an hour.

I am having a blast these last two days with parties, dinners, and just relaxing!

I am really happy it is over - though sort of sad to be wrapping things up in the lab. I am heading home to see my family for the next week.

Hope things are going well for you in Boston! Good luck with the house!

beary, Ph.D. 😀

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Thanks for remembering - it went fine!! I sure was nervous that day, but once I got up there and started talking I was fine. The defense only took about half an hour.

I am having a blast these last two days with parties, dinners, and just relaxing!

I am really happy it is over - though sort of sad to be wrapping things up in the lab. I am heading home to see my family for the next week.

Hope things are going well for you in Boston! Good luck with the house!

beary, Ph.D. 😀

How could I forget a thesis defense of a fellow mudphud compatriot!

I'm glad it went smoothly and well and that you enjoyed yourself afterwards.

Good luck with the house? Oh no no no...I won't be buying a house. Those things are really expensive. I'm currently trying to get this phat 2br $349K condo off the market and get the ball rolling for the ultimate closing date in end of may/beginning of june. I am hoping that by tomorrow morning, the seller will have accepted my bid, signed the offer, and I can get on with my life.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

The defense only took about half an hour.

Now Dr. beary...and you know I'm gonna ask this...

How long was the part AFTER the public defense seminar. 😀

 

[beary]

Good luck with the house? Oh no no no...I won't be buying a house. Those things are really expensive. I'm currently trying to get this phat 2br $349K condo off the market and get the ball rolling for the ultimate closing date in end of may/beginning of june. I am hoping that by tomorrow morning, the seller will have accepted my bid, signed the offer, and I can get on with my life.

I hope the seller accepts your bid!! I can't believe the housing costs out there - I have a nice little 2br condo in Iowa City that cost me $85K. 🙂 Sounds like I will be in for bigtime sticker shock if I go to a big city for residency.

 

[beary]

Now Dr. beary...and you know I'm gonna ask this...

How long was the part AFTER the public defense seminar. 😀

That was the part that was half an hour!! 😎

My seminar was about 40-45 minutes. It was supposed to be a bit longer, but I talk faster when I'm nervous.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I hope the seller accepts your bid!! I can't believe the housing costs out there - I have a nice little 2br condo in Iowa City that cost me $85K. 🙂 Sounds like I will be in for bigtime sticker shock if I go to a big city for residency.

Yeah...I guess that's the easy part.

During my PGY-1 year, my wallet's gonna take hell of a beatin'. But I am reassured that I will spend many hours in the hospital which means that I won't be spending too much money cuz I won't have much time to do so 😉

All I'm telling myself is that I gotta get through PGY-1 year...it's gonna be challenging financially and intellectually. But it's just one year...1 yr...12 months...365 days...wahhhhhhhhh

 

[beary]

All I'm telling myself is that I gotta get through PGY-1 year...it's gonna be challenging financially and intellectually. But it's just one year...1 yr...12 months...365 days...wahhhhhhhhh

At least we're not doing an internship! 👍

 

[b&ierstiefel]

That was the part that was half an hour!! 😎

My seminar was about 40-45 minutes. It was supposed to be a bit longer, but I talk faster when I'm nervous.

That's cool. My experience was quite similar. I made my seminar short...and it was about 40 minutes too. The closed door session with the thesis committee lasted about 30 minutes. Basically my boss was in a hurry to get out of there so after a short discussion, he said, "Anything else? Good. He's done. And we're done."

 

[b&ierstiefel]

At least we're not doing an internship! 👍

hold on....*catches breath*



......

i remember a conversation i had with a friend going into radiology:

Rads-boy: So what are you applying to?
Me: Pathology.
Rads-boy: That doesn't require an intern year does it?
Me: An intern-gigga-who?
Rads-boy: Lucky basterd.
Me: Do you have to do one?
Rads-boy: Yeah, either that or a transitional year. *looks down, shakes head*
Me: I can see you want to cry. Do you need a hug?
Rads-boy: **** you.
Me: Seriously, your tears of unfathomable sadness and sorrow are so yummy and sweet...

 

[deschutes]

I can't believe the housing costs out there - I have a nice little 2br condo in Iowa City that cost me $85K. 🙂

Right next to a cornfield 👍

I remember those numbers. A friend of mine bought a condo for $89k in Coralville.
I also remember the residents saying how ridiculously expensive it was to live in Iowa City (compared with the rest of Iowa) 😀

Congratulations on the defense!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

85K? 89K?

That's insane!

OK, jeff2005 has no excuse not to buy a condo. She could probably have an easy time buying a house!

 

[beary]

Right next to a cornfield 👍

I actually am right next to the hospital! It is less than a ten minute walk. I love living so close to work - I can even pop home for lunch sometimes.

Though the corn is within biking distance. 😉

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I actually am right next to the hospital! It is less than a ten minute walk. I love living so close to work - I can even pop home for lunch sometimes.

Though the corn is within biking distance. 😉

i consult my crystal ball and see...home call in Dr. beary's future...

 

[beary]

85K? 89K?

My condo just got assessed for $115K, so I was all excited about walking away with around $30K for a little nest egg for wherever I go next. But then seeing the prices you are throwing around makes $30K seem piddly. 😱

 

[deschutes]

Me: Seriously, your tears of unfathomable sadness and sorrow are so yummy and sweet...

The interns were (once again) talking about how post-call days weren't as bad as post-post-call days.

Poor poor interns. I guess they don't have much else to talk about.

I may work 18-hour days on surg path. But I will sleep in my OWN BED at the end of those days.

2 more nights of call. And thereafter, no more thin-walled call rooms! No more waking up frozen stiff! No more going unshowered for 30+ hours!

 

[beary]

i consult my crystal ball and see...home call in Dr. beary's future...

Yes!!! When I did my medicine rotation a few times I got away with sneaking home for a few hours and nobody knowing. I am definitely going to try that again.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

My condo just got assessed for $115K, so I was all excited about walking away with around $30K for a little nest egg for wherever I go next. But then seeing the prices you are throwing around makes $30K seem piddly. 😱

well, keep this on the down-low...but the condo i'm trying to get now was appraised at $403K according to the little sheet that the seller's agent gave me.

you did the smart thing though by buying a condo during your mstp years. i should have and easily could have done the same thing in ann arbor. but noooo...i had to piss my money away by renting for 7 years 👎

how much money do you plan to get back when you sell your condo?
edit: oh duh, you answered this in your post.

walking away with $30K is awesome. you could easily use that for your next downpayment wherever you go next! of course, if you stay in iowa, your property will probably continue to appreciate nicely 🙂

 

[beary]

The interns were (once again) talking about how post-call days weren't as bad as post-post-call days.

I may work 18-hour days on surg path. But I will sleep in my OWN BED at the end of those days.

Why are post-post-call days worse than post-call days? Because it is a full day and you're still beat?

Sleeping in my own bed makes all the difference to me too. No matter how my day is going, I can always tell myself that soon I will be home and in my own bed. It makes everything so much better!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

The interns were (once again) talking about how post-call days weren't as bad as post-post-call days.

Poor poor interns. I guess they don't have much else to talk about.

I may work 18-hour days on surg path. But I will sleep in my OWN BED at the end of those days.

2 more nights of call. And thereafter, no more thin-walled call rooms! No more waking up frozen stiff! No more going unshowered for 30+ hours!

Amen sista!

Plus, you can never really sleep well in the hospital anyway! 👎

The post-post call days at UMich are brutal. I wonder if they do things up there similarly to here. For example...let's take IM residents here at UMich. Let's say Day 1 is Long call (overnight) and day 2 is postcall. Day 3 is Short call. Ain't that a bitch! Day 4 is precall. And then it starts over again. What kind of **** is that! Admitting patients every 2 days sucks ass.

 

[beary]

you did the smart thing though by buying a condo during your mstp years. i should have and easily could have done the same thing in ann arbor. but noooo...i had to piss my money away by renting for 7 years 👎

I am really glad that I did buy. I sort of didn't want to at the time (I don't remember why looking back - I think I was intimidated by mortgages and all that stuff) but my folks really encouraged it - and they helped me out with the down payment, which of course I didn't have! So now I have gotten used to having 2 bedrooms all to myself. Sounds like that may be in your future as well! 🙂

 

[beary]

The post-post call days at UMich are brutal. I wonder if they do things up there similarly to here. For example...let's take IM residents here at UMich. Let's say Day 1 is Long call (overnight) and day 2 is postcall. Day 3 is Short call. Ain't that a bitch! Day 4 is precall. And then it starts over again. What kind of **** is that! Admitting patients every 2 days sucks ass.

That's the schedule at Iowa too.

 

[deschutes]

What is short call? and pre-call?

I spent a freakin' 3 hours admitting a patient last night. Maybe 20 minutes of that time was actually spent with the patient.
I spent 28 hours on service. Maybe 1 1/2 hours of that time was actually spent with patients.

My anti-clinical medicine sentiments are pervasively invading all threads.

 

[beary]

What is short call? and pre-call?

Short call (at least here) is when that team admits patients until 4 pm. Then the long call team takes over. But if you are getting patients that are coming in just before 4, you don't get done with admitting them until mid-evening at the earliest. So that's another really long day.

 

[deschutes]

Why are post-post-call days worse than post-call days? Because it is a full day and you're still beat?

I think what tends to happen is that you use your post-call afternoon to do all the stuff that you can't normally do during waking hours like going to the bank/the dentist/the registry office/the grocery store. That night you go to bed and get your usual maybe 6-7 hours max. So you never make up for the sleep you lost on call.

Repeat ad infinitum.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I am really glad that I did buy. I sort of didn't want to at the time (I don't remember why looking back - I think I was intimidated by mortgages and all that stuff) but my folks really encouraged it - and they helped me out with the down payment, which of course I didn't have! So now I have gotten used to having 2 bedrooms all to myself. Sounds like that may be in your future as well! 🙂

That's IF the seller accepts our bid

I think we have a fighting chance though. One bidder must have bid too low cuz the seller's agent turned that bid away without even talking to the seller. Our bid however has the agent trying to get a hold of the seller. Our bid is still below asking price though so the seller may tell us to either take a hike or to increase our bid. Hopefully we find out tomorrow morning what the dealio is.

The master bedroom is nice. The second bedroom is pretty small. I envision using that as an office with my desktop and/or guest bedroom for when friends come into town. What's amazing is that the kitchen was completely redone and the dining area is pretty big. I'm trying to think what exactly I'm gonna do with that room. Any suggestions?

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Short call (at least here) is when that team admits patients until 4 pm. Then the long call team takes over. But if you are getting patients that are coming in just before 4, you don't get done with admitting them until mid-evening at the earliest. So that's another really long day.

yep...same here...except short call here ends at 3 pm.

deschutes, short call is considered a buffer for the long-call team. this is because the shortcall team has a cap...usually 4 patients admitted. if shortcall team hits the cap before 3 pm (or 4 pm at iowa), then the longcall team has to admit the rest of the patients. if the shortcall team doesn't cap, then the longcall team can chill and do work rounds until 3 pm (or 4 pm) without having to admit patients.

precall is the day before call (day between short and long call). usually a pretty cush day with just work rounds responsibilities. they call it cush. i call it suck.

 

[beary]

The master bedroom is nice. The second bedroom is pretty small. I envision using that as an office with my desktop and/or guest bedroom for when friends come into town. What's amazing is that the kitchen was completely redone and the dining area is pretty big. I'm trying to think what exactly I'm gonna do with that room. Any suggestions?

This is exactly my setup! I even got a twin bed for the office/guest room so that is always there for when I have guests. Do you have a kitchen table to put in your dining room? I just got a cheap (but fine) table and chairs at ShopKo. It is nice for when I have people over for dinner. But most of the time I eat in front of the TV and my table is a storage area for bills, junk mail, and magazines.

 

[beary]

precall is the day before call (day between short and long call). usually a pretty cush day with just work rounds responsibilities. they call it cush. i call it suck.

lots of folks here call the precall day "golden day". And if it falls on a Thursday, then you get a "golden weekend" (because there is no short call on weekends). I think the only "golden days" in the hospital are days spent doing pathology. 🙂

 

[deschutes]

Here there are 2 teams per hospital.

One team is larger, with off-service residents (yahoo!) and 2 senior residents. One senior is ward senior, the other is Emerg liaison.

The other team is just 2 junior IM residents.

Admissions go on throughout the day via Emerg liaison to either team, depending on capacity. At night an ectopic senior takes over both ward and emerg roles.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

This is exactly my setup! I even got a twin bed for the office/guest room so that is always there for when I have guests. Do you have a kitchen table to put in your dining room? I just got a cheap (but fine) table and chairs at ShopKo. It is nice for when I have people over for dinner. But most of the time I eat in front of the TV and my table is a storage area for bills, junk mail, and magazines.

I'm buying brand new furniture for my new place. I'm selling off our current furniture to my roommate.

I will buy a kitchen table and several chairs for the dining room...cuz it can easily fit there. However, here's the problem. The kitchen is at the opposite end of the condo as the living room...which is where my new (hopefully a plasma screen) TV will be. I'm used to being able to watch TV while cooking but in this condo unit, that won't be possible unless I purchase...another TV. Choices choices choices. I think my parents have a spare small TV which I could use I guess...hmmm.....

 

[deschutes]

Kitchens without doors don't make a great deal of sense to me.

Wouldn't you rather shut the grease into the kitchen than try to keep it out of your bedroom?

 

[b&ierstiefel]

lots of folks here call the precall day "golden day". And if it falls on a Thursday, then you get a "golden weekend" (because there is no short call on weekends). I think the only "golden days" in the hospital are days spent doing pathology. 🙂

i think we recognize this kind of day/weekend too...but i forgot what they called it. it's probably something lame, uninspiring, and not funny.

Here there are 2 teams per hospital.

One team is larger, with off-service residents (yahoo!) and 2 senior residents. One senior is ward senior, the other is Emerg liaison.

The other team is just 2 junior IM residents.

Admissions go on throughout the day via Emerg liaison to either team, depending on capacity. At night an ectopic senior takes over both ward and emerg roles.

So do you admit patients everyday? Or every two days? The system you describe seems very loose...i.e., it's very flexible/accomodating but a lot work could potentially get dumped on one particular team if the system is abused.

 

[beary]

However, here's the problem. The kitchen is at the opposite end of the condo as the living room...which is where my new (hopefully a plasma screen) TV will be. I'm used to being able to watch TV while cooking but in this condo unit, that won't be possible unless I purchase...another TV. Choices choices choices. I think my parents have a spare small TV which I could use I guess...hmmm.....

Solution - don't cook!

Breakfast - cereal or oatmeal. Just add milk and eat in front of TV.
Lunch - at the hospital.
Dinner - something frozen that I pop in the microwave. Or easy mac. 👍 Watch TV while waiting 3 minutes for food. Then eat in front of TV.

Perhaps this is part of why I am so flabby and out of shape.

 

[beary]

Kitchens without doors don't make a great deal of sense to me.

I do not think that I have ever seen a kitchen that has a door. I am trying to picture one and can't.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Kitchens without doors don't make a great deal of sense to me.

Wouldn't you rather shut the grease into the kitchen than try to keep it out of your bedroom?

i've never really had a problem with grease moving from the kitche to other parts. usually this can be prevented by keeping the kitchen clean, washing your hands, wearing a cooking apron, and most importantly, not rolling around in the grease.

 

[deschutes]

So do you admit patients everyday? Or every two days? The system you describe seems very loose...i.e., it's very flexible/accomodating but a lot work could potentially get dumped on one particular team if the system is abused.

Admissions every day. People get sick every day y'know 🙂

It can sometimes weigh one way or another, not too heavily. It tends to equalize pretty quickly via transfer-of-care or other such means though.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Solution - don't cook!

Breakfast - cereal or oatmeal. Just add milk and eat in front of TV.
Lunch - at the hospital.
Dinner - something frozen that I pop in the microwave. Or easy mac. 👍 Watch TV while waiting 3 minutes for food. Then eat in front of TV.

Perhaps this is part of why I am so flabby and out of shape.

1. don't eat breakfast. was never much of a breakfast person. i think this will change in residency though since i will be getting up early everyday.
2. cereal is bad. i don't tolerate milk well (see signature).
3. lunch - totally agree (but what about saturday or sunday when you have a day off?)
4. dinner - i usually order out. but i will probably grab something at the hospital since the days will be long especially on surg path.
5. this condo i want is close to Jamaica Pond...has a nice running trail...this will motivate me to run more consistently.

 

[deschutes]

i've never really had a problem with grease moving from the kitche to other parts. usually this can be prevented by keeping the kitchen clean, washing your hands, wearing a cooking apron, and most importantly, not rolling around in the grease.

Evidently, none of you have ever deep-fried.

I will definitely be needing a cooker hood, or whatever it is that they call them ventilators now.

 

[beary]

Admissions every day. People get sick every day y'know 🙂

Yikes!!! I cannot imagine doing admissions every day.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Admissions every day. People get sick every day y'know 🙂

It can sometimes weigh one way or another, not too heavily. It tends to equalize pretty quickly via transfer-of-care or other such means though.

Nooooo really? I thought that according to murphy's law, patients only get sick only when you're on call (ok, now my anti-clinical medicine sentiments from my subI months are starting to creep back into my consciousness).

Yeah, this equalizing and transfer of care happens very inefficiently here. Having night floats in the hospital helps tremendously though.

Have you noticed that patients either get better or are destined to get worse. In the whole grand scheme of internal medicine, doctors don't really swing the balance of fate that much.

Sit and watch. Sit and watch.

 

[deschutes]

Yikes!!! I cannot imagine doing admissions every day.

Well, I don't personally admit patients every day. But each team accepts patients every day, and they try to have either a clerk/junior rez from each team on call every night - the admissions that the cc/junior sees will go to that team.

 

[beary]

Evidently, none of you have ever deep-fried.

Nope!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Evidently, none of you have ever deep-fried.

I will definitely be needing a cooker hood, or whatever it is that they call them ventilators now.

Can't say I do. But deep-fried food is so so yummy. Fatty goodness galore!

 

[deschutes]

Having night floats in the hospital helps tremendously though.

Definitely. Unless you're the floater. I was in IA when my friend the surg intern was on night float. Work at night, sleep in day x 1 month. And you're still supposed to make it to all the daytime teaching rounds and conference. Totally blows.

Have you noticed that patients either get better or are destined to get worse. In the whole grand scheme of internal medicine, doctors don't really swing the balance of fate that much.

Sit and watch. Sit and watch.

Yeah. Was it the change of antibiotic - or were they going to get better anyway. Guess we'll never know. NYD NYD NYD.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Definitely. Unless you're the floater. I was in IA when my friend the surg intern was on night float. Work at night, sleep in day x 1 month. And you're still supposed to make it to all the daytime teaching rounds and conference. Totally blows.

haha...yeah, the scenario works well when YOU are NOT the night float.

Yeah. Was it the change of antibiotic - or were they going to get better anyway. Guess we'll never know. NYD NYD NYD.

NYD? Not your doing?

Now pediatrics is different. Kids come in all sick...not wanting to drink anything. So you give them some tylenol, stick an IV in them, give them fluids...next day they feel all better. Pediatricians make a difference!

 

[deschutes]

Can't say I do. But deep-fried food is so so yummy. Fatty goodness galore!

What about grilling? and stir-frying garlic? or ground beef for tacos? The smell (and therefore the grease) get everywhere!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

What about grilling? and stir-frying garlic? or ground beef for tacos? The smell (and therefore the grease) get everywhere!

i usually grill outside if i do. currently i don't grill cuz my apartment doesn't allow us to have grills on our balcony.

i stir fry quite a bit...but usually i'm able to contain the grease by cleaning up diligently after myself.

and tacos! what's with you and tacos??? 😉

 

[bananaface]

Wouldn't she be Dr.Dr. beary? 😕

 

[deschutes]

Wouldn't she be Dr.Dr. beary? 😕

She will be. Next year!