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So my grandmother lives on the East coast in Denver, NC. I have interviewed at Duke and suppose to interview at UNC in March. Which would you rather go to? My love is for Cali but I heart my grandmother that I wouldn't mind living on the east coast near her. Suggestions?
 
dear doctorcynical-

you are a douchebag. get a life
 
I think you should consult Squat n Squeeze. He gives great advice.
 
doctorcynical -

43 posts/day is quite impressive - quantity is more important than quality for you, right? 🙂
 
Well, I am a diehard Terps fan but I am rooting for North Carolina to lose tonight b/c it will improve the Terps' ACC standing. So at least for tonight, I am rooting for Duke.
 
Originally posted by doctorcynical
So my grandmother lives on the East coast in Denver, NC. I have interviewed at Duke and suppose to interview at UNC in March. Which would you rather go to? My love is for Cali but I heart my grandmother that I wouldn't mind living on the east coast near her. Suggestions?

Ew, Dook?!

Hello... HEELS all the way

And this is coming from a girl who WORKS at Dook
 
Originally posted by SarahGM
Ew, Dook?!

Hello... HEELS all the way

And this is coming from a girl who WORKS at Dook

I think it's funny you posted this after the game ended. wrong again.
 
Yay Duke!

UNC put up a good fight but ultimately we were victorious 🙂

GTHCGTH!

See ya in March! :clap:
 
Duke beats UNC again... what's new?

SarahGM, didnt you goto UNC for ugrad or something? I think you're not telling the whole story here. 😉
 
Originally posted by doctorcynical
So my grandmother lives on the East coast in Denver, NC. I have interviewed at Duke and suppose to interview at UNC in March. Which would you rather go to? My love is for Cali but I heart my grandmother that I wouldn't mind living on the east coast near her. Suggestions?

This is the problem with trolls, even if he MIGHT be telling the truth on this one, all his previous posts make it highly dubious. Its like the boy who kept crying wolf...
 
Originally posted by doctorcynical
I heart my grandmother that I wouldn't mind living on the east coast near her.

That's some golden **** right there.
 

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If you're really intense, then go to duke. duke gives great financial aid. they're both great schools.
 
Originally posted by Gleevec
This is the problem with trolls, even if he MIGHT be telling the truth on this one, all his previous posts make it highly dubious. Its like the boy who kept crying wolf...

so true...i cant get a feel for this post.
 
Originally posted by Bones2008
I think it's funny you posted this after the game ended. wrong again.

Loyalty.

And heart. (sounds like the cast of captain planet)


Idk, what *I* saw was a number one seeded team almost lose... taken all the way into overtime... by a team that lost to clemson last week!
 
Originally posted by Gleevec
Duke beats UNC again... what's new?

SarahGM, didnt you goto UNC for ugrad or something? I think you're not telling the whole story here. 😉

Wrong! Went to Dartmouth! 🙂

I just have several ties to UNC... and it says something that my boss at Duke Med Center is VEHEMENTLY telling me not to go to school there!!
 
Originally posted by care bear
on the off chance that you *might* actually be serious, please please choose duke if you have any inkling you might like it better. . .i know it's expensive but i really think it might be worth it. . .pm if you actually are serious and you want to hear my thoughts about the choice.

hey carebear, I can guarantee you that some people here at Duke wonder whether they would've been better off at UNC. The grass is always greener, I guess . . .

SarahGM, who do you work for? Send me all the ugly details! 😉

A word to out of state people considering UNC: might want to get a straight answer from them regarding their tuition policies before you make a final decision. If you're bargaining on being able to declare in-state residency after the first year, you might be in for a not-so-nice surprise.
 
Originally posted by care bear
on the off chance that you *might* actually be serious, please please choose duke if you have any inkling you might like it better. . .i know it's expensive but i really think it might be worth it. . .pm if you actually are serious and you want to hear my thoughts about the choice.

I have to agree with Carebear on this, I went to Chapel Hill for grad school but have many ties at the medical school. Hands down, Duke is where I'd go if the choice were mine. Duke REALLY, REALLY looks out for their medical students.
 
I think we are being tough on him. I think doccynical is a reformed troller !! that is right I hope doccynical 😉
 
Originally posted by SarahGM
it says something that my boss at Duke Med Center is VEHEMENTLY telling me not to go to school there!!

Details, please! For all of us who may (hopefully) be making this decision next month.
 
Originally posted by SarahGM
Wrong! Went to Dartmouth! 🙂

I just have several ties to UNC... and it says something that my boss at Duke Med Center is VEHEMENTLY telling me not to go to school there!!

That's weird, all my profs keep TELLING me to goto Duke for med school even though I have designs elsewhere.

I guess if you dont like the research year though and need more systematic guidance through a full 2 years of basic science, then Duke probably isn't a good match.

But from what med students tell me, the less basic science the better!
 
Originally posted by SarahGM

Idk, what *I* saw was a number one seeded team almost lose... taken all the way into overtime... by a team that lost to clemson last week!

I think this statement is more telling of UNC's terrible roadplay and lack of consistent effort moreso than anything else.

Lets remember here, Jawad and McCants have both said, "this [UNC] is the best team in the country, and Jawad has said, "the best team EVER in college basketball". So, its pretty good that Duke (and Wake and Kentucky and Maryland and Florida State and Clemson) have all defeated the self-proclaimed single greatest college basketball team in the history of the sport.

Also remember, at the beginning of the season, most people were picking UNC as a surefire final four pick. Now, people are hoping that UNC makes the tournament this year.

Road games have been hard on everyone this year, and no ACC team aside from Duke is above .500 on the road.
 
yes, thank god i am done basic sciences in only 5 months!

as a Duke student, I really, truly don't understand why someone would VEHEMENTLY tell anyone not to go here. i would take your boss's advice with a grain of salt, SarahGM. sure, like every med school, Duke has its plusses and minuses, but it's definitely not the kind of place you should high tail it from. it's a well respected medical center, the school is extremely student centered, and residency directors from all over the country like duke grads.
 
Well obviously after the game we know what school is better.
Good basketball team = good academics. Good football team = horrible academics. I call it like I see it. Look at Stanford. My point exactly. :idea:

Stanford or bust
 
I will say that my boss is known to be a bit melodramatic. But I do see the people she works with and the beauocracy she deals with, and while I don't think I'd be into as much research in my career as she is, I wouldn't want to put up with it myself.

My interviewer at UNC (also an adjunct prof at Duke) once worked in the same lab at Duke in which I work, under the same boss. At the interview, he told me his frank opinions of both places. He said -- and this is only HIS opinion -- that at UNC, they teach you how to be a nice, caring doctor, great with patients, etc. And at Duke, they teach you how to be in charge of other doctors. In a nutshell. Food for thought.
 
unc med loves to duke-bash, and i think it's for the same reasons yale (undergrad) loves to harvard-bash- a little inferiority complex. the sense of being almost as good, but not really.
 
Originally posted by SarahGM
I will say that my boss is known to be a bit melodramatic. But I do see the people she works with and the beauocracy she deals with, and while I don't think I'd be into as much research in my career as she is, I wouldn't want to put up with it myself.

My interviewer at UNC (also an adjunct prof at Duke) once worked in the same lab at Duke in which I work, under the same boss. At the interview, he told me his frank opinions of both places. He said -- and this is only HIS opinion -- that at UNC, they teach you how to be a nice, caring doctor, great with patients, etc. And at Duke, they teach you how to be in charge of other doctors. In a nutshell. Food for thought.

I somehow doubt that you can teach anyone to be "nice and caring" --they are either that way to begin with, or they arent. The amount of electroshock therapy required to convert a selfish gunner into a nice and caring doctor would probably require its own dedicated nuclear power plant to provide enough juice for such a procedure.

So I know a TON of people who inteviewed at both. I think if youre in-state, UNC is the way to go simply because of tuition. I dont really buy this whole "UNC docs are nice thing" because three of my friends from NC interviewed there and said they were treated like crap by overaggressive professors. So Im not too much into crass generalizations-- there are going to be all types of personalities at every medical school. Also remember, that everyone telling you this is basically from the same lab, so its not as if you have a variety of opinions here.

What I do think are major differences to be considered between Duke and UNC are cost, cost, cost, and intent. If you dont want to do research and feel like you want to spend an extra year hitting the books before starting the wards, then UNC is the way to go. Duke's curriculum is really geared towards people who want to do research and who dont mind spending only a year on basic science (and in so doing get to see patients earlier). I think there is some semblance of truth in what you said about UNC training people to be family practitioners and Duke training doctors to be leaders, Duke is definitely more of a research/academia/administrative head/political leadership like school.

That said, you would get great training everywhere. I think both Duke and UNC have their advantages and disadvantages, depending on what your career goals are. I wouldnt put too much faith into what the "descendants" of one lab group think, because they might have had a bad experience and just indoctrinated the rest of the group, especially if hes melodramatic as you say. But in any case, I dont think you can go wrong either way.
 
Yes, and thank you Gleevec, I thought your post was very poignant...

Not to rescind my former posts, because I meant for them to be helpful, based on everything I've said and heard... but I do feel uncomfortable making blanket statements about any one institution. Both schools are great, and there are people who will tell you bad things about any place. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either-- it's a matter cost, and it's a matter of what you really want to focus on as a physician.
 
Originally posted by SarahGM
Yes, and thank you Gleevec, I thought your post was very poignant...

Not to rescind my former posts, because I meant for them to be helpful, based on everything I've said and heard... but I do feel uncomfortable making blanket statements about any one institution. Both schools are great, and there are people who will tell you bad things about any place. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either-- it's a matter cost, and it's a matter of what you really want to focus on as a physician.

In fact, most Duke ugrad from NC goto UNC simply out of the cost differential, which is a huge factor (sort of analagous to UCSF-Stanford pre-gobernator). Yet at Duke, the single greatest state represented is still NC I believe.
 
Originally posted by care bear
and unc curriculum is already pretty intense.

This is the understatement of the century! I'm an NC resident but I've yet to include Chapel Hill on my lists of schools because of the "intensity" there. I knew of 2 students that had been accepted to both Duke and UNC, ended up at UNC, then left after 1 year. They BOTH had serious regrets about passing on Duke.

On the other hand, the atmosphere" or should I say "attitude"at Duke reminds me a lot of Hopkins:laugh:
 
Choose Duke so there's one more spot open at UNC which raises my chances there. Hehe!
 
If you stay around for the summer after your first year then it's actually not so hard to get in state. you have to get a new driver's license and vote in elections ect but if you want to be in state then you can make it happen.
 
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