Easiest dental schools to get into

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hey,
i had a low gpa, and was wondering which dental schools are easier to get into with my situation,
thanks so much for your help
 
There are NO EASY dental schools to get into. The only one that has semi-low stats is Meharry, and from what I have heard they place alot of emphasis on extracurricular/volunteering. It should also be noted that this is a minority school, and if you are not a minority your chances of being accepted are not that great. Your best shot with low stats is your state school and expensive private institutes (NYU tends to let in more people with low GPAs).

Check out predents.com for stats on each school.
 
USCbiograd said:
There are NO EASY dental schools to get into. The only one that has semi-low stats is Meharry, and from what I have heard they place alot of emphasis on extracurricular/volunteering. It should also be noted that this is a minority school, and if you are not a minority your chances of being accepted are not that great. Your best shot with low stats is your state school and expensive private institutes (NYU tends to let in more people with low GPAs).

Check out predents.com for stats on each school.
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Ever notice how all the minority schools have GPAs close to 3.0? Makes me wonder at times what the average GPA would be like at a place like Harvard hadn't there been affirmative action. Depends on the minority though, since Asians obviously have GPAs way above that of blacks or hispanics. No idea about natives...
 
phungy said:
Something I came across on SDN.... Top 10.
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i would take that site just as an opinion of 1 person. for instance straight from the website:

6. Virginia Commonwealth University School of Dentistry (VCU Dental)
*The Top 10 Nation Writers do not have enough information about this school to write a review. Once more information about this school is obtained, this entry will be updated to reflect such reasons.*

and what's the basis for this? obviously no basis. how many of your friends who applied to VCU interviewed and got in? not many correct? its hard to choose 10 schools that are "easier" to get into but IMO maybe only 3 of these are correct.
 
There are whites getting in with low GPAs also. In addition, the historically black schools do let whites in also. So, please don't blame affirm action for any shortcomings you feel you may have...If your record is competitive you will get in no matter your race. If its not competitive, you won't. I know plenty of blacks who were rejected by dental schools...its about competitiveness not affirm action
 
PatchJoe said:
There are always going to be whites getting in with low GPAs. They are called exceptions. I don't really see where you picked up the "blaming my shortcomings on affirmative action" part from my post. I am merely trying to state the facts. I don't know if it's fair or not, and I am in no position to judge, but what I'm doing is stating the facts. Disadvantaged minorities are given more leeway in terms of GPA and DAT scores, which means that for any given average for a school, the "non-disadvantaged non-minority" average is going to be higher. Yes, historically black schools admit whites, but more emphasis is placed on accepting black candidates, so naturally those candidates are going to be given more leeway in terms of stats. Whites are usually expected to have higher/above average scores.
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I simply don't agree with you on those points. What exactly do you mean by more emphasis? If your record is competitive you should be able to get into any school, even if it is historically black. As for your other points, I need to see that in an un-biased format. Could you direct me to a website or link that specifically states that nondisadvantaged non minorities are expected to have higher GPAs? I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here...
 
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Rose, you are correct. Although it may not be his intent, he is underminding the achievements of blacks, Hispanics, and Indians by hinting that blacks and Hispanics need lower GPAs to be accepted. However, I intend to prove that blacks and Hispanics need to be just as competitive as the next guy because they get rejected for low GPAs just as quickly as the next guy would. Medical/DO, dental, and podiatry schools only accept applicants that they think are competitive enough to handle the material...Period. So, don't make statements about blacks getting in with lower GPAs when you acknowledge that whites do also. In conclusion, just be competitive and try your best. Stop looking at the other guys
 
I find it interesting as I read many blogs about getting into dental school that when race is brought up..black students are supposedly getting in largely because they are minorities.

Ultimately, dentals schools need students that will move on each year and pass the boards or they are out of business. So...keeping in mind how diffiucult it is to keep dental schools open due to many reasons ...I find it crazy that so many (usually pre-dents) belive that schools would cripple themselves with undeserving black students. There are 2 HBCU dental schools that I am aware of...so if you can not get into any of the other 53 schools don't blame the relatively small number of black applicants that apply to dental school for not being accepted.

Getting into dental school is an extremely competitive process and many of us don't get in on our first try. I don't have any data to show, but I believe it is reasonable to say that if we looked at dental students as a whole we will find a range of GPA's, DAT's and experience. You find more black students at HBCU's because it is a safe environment to learn and therfore more black students apply to these schools. There are countless black students who have great stats that have stories of attending mostly white schools for undergrad but are constantly discounted because of their race. How classmate suspect the only reason they were accepted was because of race....meanwhile they are performing on the same level as the other student's in their program.

Stop stating that blacks student mostly get in because of race. Students with less than perfect stats (of any race) get in because of the extras and lets not forget the interview. You might be smart but you could be a total dud in the interview and therefore not be a good fit for a particular school. Blame yourself and only yourself if you don't get into school. Don't make up reasons because you felt you should have gotten in and someone who is less deserving..in your mind..did. Just apply again like the rest of us.

And to reference that list (top 10) --the reason those schools were termed easy was because of cost. So if you are rich with less than steller stats you can get into a lot schools. But I don't hear anyone complaining about the rich that sail into school because they can afford it and know who they know. 🙄

 
hey,
i had a low gpa, and was wondering which dental schools are easier to get into with my situation,
thanks so much for your help

In response to your question...The application process is competitive and if you really want to attend dental school...call the schools you are interested in and ask what they think. They will tell you trust me...I had one low DAT score and a school called me and told me if I retook the DAT and got minimum of x I would probably get an interview. They weed out the over 4,000 applications they get usually by gpa, dat initially...so apply early and ask questions.

Just curious...what is your gpa and have you taken the dat? Many times Pre-Dents are really hard on themselves... you don't need a 4.0 and 25's to get accepted. You might be okay 🙂
 
Wow, another one of these threads...One person says affirmative action doesn't really exist then another says it isn't fair.
Close it....................................😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
 
I think the next study to squash this debate would be to look at the percentage of minority applicants that are accepted (first round) compared to white students with simialar stats. That will tell us what is going on. Affirmative action wasset up to give minorities a chance, because believe it or not minorty students with competive stats were not getting accepted because of race --period. Affirmative action said -- stop it-- and then minorities were being accepted at higher rates. Unless there are quotas, school may make sure they accept minority students but better believe they are going to pick the best that apply. So to suggest that less than steller students get accepted because of race isn't totally accurate.

When you have low stats you apply early and write the best damn essay and get the best letters you can. If your app is in early and your stats aren't laughable..you get an interview..and possible acceptance. If that ok student got their seat before the "better" student got there don't blame affirmative action.

I believe affirmative action gives minorites a chance not an advantage...and the reason this is a recurring theme in here is because when student's don't get in they look for reasons why and afirmative action is an easy target. It may be a factor, but I believe it is less of a reason than some believe.
 
form51 said:
hey,
i had a low gpa, and was wondering which dental schools are easier to get into with my situation,
thanks so much for your help
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Utimately, no one knows who is going to get in. It's a lottery. It's less of one if you have close to a 4.0 and 25's and more of a gamble with 3.0 and 18's.

Don't look at which schools are easy to get into..consider stats - so you don't waste your money, but consider which school is the best fit. And once you are in that interview you can speak passionately about why they should choose you and why you choose to apply to there school. When I interviewed they always asked us as a group how many schools we applied to. They always made a face at those students who applied to like 16 schools- they know those student's don't care where they get in --(granted they understand ...but still)
 
PatchJoe said:
Is there a source that lists the average stats for both white accepted applicants and minorities who have been accepted for dental schools? Because I have been told by several of my peers as well as my prehealth advisor (and quite a few professors) the following; "if you're black or hispanic, it's easier to get into dental school". I'm not sure of the facts, and I would like to know, because it appears that my premise may very well be false.
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I don't know if those stats are listed anywhere. I think you were misinformed. Unfortunately, I believe that "chance" that minority students are given due to affirmative action is perseived as an advantage and misrepresented as being an easier process. It's just as difficult for everyone, honestly if a school is at the end of their cycle and they notice that they haven't accepted any minority applicants then "maybe" you might get a leg up. But now a days, I honestly believe the chance that many minorities were given has lead to many more applying and many more minority accepted students as a result.

I believe this issue causes such passionate response, because of the easier comment. Minorites weren't given a chance at all in the past, thus the formation of HBCU professional schools. I just want to say I don't think that of all the places for minorities to have an easy time --- that Doctorate programs are it. Everyone has to hustle to get into school it's not easy for anyone.
 
The OP simply asked what are the easier dental schools to get into. It's still possible to categorize certain schools based upon entrance statistics. Albeit, even the schools with the lowest GPA's, it's still competitive to get an acceptance. It's possible to discuss this without bringing the race card into all this.
 
Yes Patch, I do not believe you meant any harm in what you said. However, you were gravely misinformed. That is the problem that occurs when we repeat information without knowing its source; even if it is an advisor or college professor. We are all college (undergrad and grad students) and it is our responsibility to research things for ourselves and find our own answers; that is the "father of learning". We can not continue to spread misinformation. We must remember to keep in mind that if someone has made to professional school; they deserve to be there. No self-respecting institution would admit below-par students.
 
I think people need to realize that some schools have low averages because of the some students with special circumstances...for example.. my father passed away my sophmore year and I didn't do as well the semester he passed away because of funeral and greiving purposes...however I am back up and running and getting bomb ass grades... they look at things like that as positive things.. many students come from similar situations/disadvantages and maybe that's why the averages are low.... i hate when people assume anything about race, age, reapplicants, gender...ect. unless you are an ADCOM i don't think you should comment on which school like's what.... all in all, everyone should apply and hope they get lucky! good luck to all -- stop arguing.
 
I read the "Top 10 Easiest Schools to Get Into" list.

Is Case really considered one of the easiest to get into? I was surprised by that.
 
About the Top 10 list, I don't know too much about the schools on the list, so I'm not going to b**** too much, but is this list as ridiculous as I think it might be? How on earth is UoP on this list?

And I'm not sure about NYU, but it can't be easy, right? I remember reading a bunch of threads where a lot of people were angsting over whether or not they'd get off the waitlist, and the seemed to be pretty competitive applicants.

Anyone else have any comments about the top 10 list?

(http://toptennation.blogspot.com/2008/02/top-10-easiest-us-dental-schools-to-get.html)
 
K90 said:
Ever notice how all the minority schools have GPAs close to 3.0? Makes me wonder at times what the average GPA would be like at a place like Harvard hadn't there been affirmative action. Depends on the minority though, since Asians obviously have GPAs way above that of blacks or hispanics. No idea about natives...
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You do not need to worry too much since for 2007 the one African American and one Hispanic that were accepted at Harvard are unlikely to have skewed the gpa significantly even making the assumption that they were less qualified. The 35 Native Americans/Alaska Native probably had negligible influence on the overall gpa of the enrollees. Incidentally, private schools are not bound by the "affirmative action" requirements.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=503758
 
xtractime said:
i would take that site just as an opinion of 1 person. for instance straight from the website:

6. Virginia Commonwealth University School of Dentistry (VCU Dental)
*The Top 10 Nation Writers do not have enough information about this school to write a review. Once more information about this school is obtained, this entry will be updated to reflect such reasons.*

and what's the basis for this? obviously no basis. how many of your friends who applied to VCU interviewed and got in? not many correct? its hard to choose 10 schools that are "easier" to get into but IMO maybe only 3 of these are correct.
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I interviewed at VCU and if it weren't in Richmond I would probably have considered actually going there. Sorry to those of you that love Richmond, just not the city for me
 
K90 said:
Ever notice how all the minority schools have GPAs close to 3.0? Makes me wonder at times what the average GPA would be like at a place like Harvard hadn't there been affirmative action. Depends on the minority though, since Asians obviously have GPAs way above that of blacks or hispanics. No idea about natives...
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hey guy im a minority check out my GPA
 
snooper92 said:
I read the "Top 10 Easiest Schools to Get Into" list.

Is Case really considered one of the easiest to get into? I was surprised by that.
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Honestly, I doubt it anymore. The stats this article is based on seems to be from pre-2006. Everyone knows what happened in 2006. Applicants skyrocketted as did the stats of enrollees. VCU went up from 3.3 to over 3.5 for average GPA.
 
Cold Front said:
This site has a lot of useful tips. Advice is free. 👍
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That site is worthless opinion dressed up as fact. I sincerely caution pre-dents from taking advice from this site. My favorite is that Michigan is described as a "top ten school" because they have a dental museum, and McGill because it has a "good looking" student body and is located in Montreal.
 
armorshell said:
That site is worthless opinion dressed up as fact. I sincerely caution pre-dents from taking advice from this site. My favorite is that Michigan is described as a "top ten school" because they have a dental museum, and McGill because it has a "good looking" student body and is located in Montreal.
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Armor beat me to it! Michigan was always ranked high back in the day of rankings, but when this site uses the museum as its main evidence it loses all credibility.

And also "good looking" students as criteria for McGill!?!?!?!

This site seems to have been created by some random Joe Shmoe and could have easily been created by any one of the members here on SDN. In fact he/she is probably about to post one of those "What is the difference between DDS and DMD" threads.
 
Hysteria24 said:
Armor beat me to it! Michigan was always ranked high back in the day of rankings, but when this site uses the museum as its main evidence it loses all credibility.

And also "good looking" students as criteria for McGill!?!?!?!

This site seems to have been created by some random Joe Shmoe and could have easily been created by any one of the members here on SDN. In fact he/she is probably about to post one of those "What is the difference between DDS and DMD" threads.
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The writers describe themselves as members of a dental fraternity, probably in Canada due to the frequency of writings about Canadian schools.
 
Hysteria24 said:
And also "good looking" students as criteria for McGill!?!?!?!
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It's really odd, but I have noticed at the few different schools I have been at that there seems to be a disproportionate amount of good looking dental students out there both male and female.
 
If the person complaining about affirmation action actually thought about what he was saying and looked at the math it is easy to see that affirmative action, particularly for african-americans, has NO IMPACT whatsoever on the chances of white applicants. There have been a number of articles/reports that have addressed this fact. Part of the complaint has to do with the allegation that URM's have lower numbers than the overall applicant pool. First of all, the percentage of dental students that are African-American are about 4% nationally (from the most recent data I have seen), and many dental schools have no affirmative action policy and do not consider race in admissions decisions at all. Plus, many schools consider the fact that a student was educationally or socioeconomically disadvantaged as part of a holistic evaluation regardless of race or while not considering race, and a large percentage of URM applicants fall in that category. So, if you are looking at the percentage of students that are admitted to schools that 1. have affirmative action programs 2. consider race in isolation (i.e. not disadvantaged status or socioeconomic diversity) 3. admit URM's with lower GPA/DAT scores (keep in mind that a significant percentage have the same scores/GPAs as white applicants) 4. do not privilege alumni children or children of dentists (which hurts minority applicants because of historical discrimination in educational institutions), then you are looking at about 1% or less of dental school admits/enrolled students. Plus, dental schools have strict favoritism for in-state students, and many of those states are overwhelmingly white, which hurts the chances of URM's disproportionately. Plus, several studies have showed that whites do not loose spaces to unqualified URM's when you actually consider the math. Asian-Americans, however, do loose spots (if you looking at numbers alone) but not to a particular racial group (not whites, urms, etc. but a representative mix).
 
phungy said:
Something I came across on SDN.... Top 10.
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some are true, some aren't. UOP tends to attract many high profile applicants due to the 3-year curriculum. UOP should be off of that list.
 
any top ten list of dental schools that you may find is pure conjecture and opinion on the part of the author. The ONLY way you can rank dental schools is by some of the published stats. see doc toothache about that 🙂 (or the ADEA publication)
 
GetnMyFtNtheDor said:
There are whites getting in with low GPAs also. In addition, the historically black schools do let whites in also. So, please don't blame affirm action for any shortcomings you feel you may have...If your record is competitive you will get in no matter your race. If its not competitive, you won't. I know plenty of blacks who were rejected by dental schools...its about competitiveness not affirm action
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👍 Yep. It's all about how you yourself perform.
 
SugarNaCl said:
It's really odd, but I have noticed at the few different schools I have been at that there seems to be a disproportionate amount of good looking dental students out there both male and female.
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lol! Appearances DO count 😉
 
GetnMyFtNtheDor said:
There are whites getting in with low GPAs also. In addition, the historically black schools do let whites in also. So, please don't blame affirm action for any shortcomings you feel you may have...If your record is competitive you will get in no matter your race. If its not competitive, you won't. I know plenty of blacks who were rejected by dental schools...its about competitiveness not affirm action
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:laugh: Are you really trying to claim that blacks/Latinos have it as hard as Whites/Asians? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Fail by you
 
It's too bad skin color plays any role in the admission process. I agree that there should be some route for those from a disadvantaged background to have a good shot at their dreams but grad school admissions is way too late in the game.
As for the HBCU - if they were on the same level as other schools in terms of admissions #'s or accepted a percentage of each race that is proportional to the population I don't think anyone would have a problem with them. To me- they're a back door for less qualified applicants into D-school.
 
Easiest schools to get into? hahaha. No such things exist.
 
okay "easiness" will arguably depend on the APPLICANT's ability. If the person has high GPA/DAT then should apply accordingly to schools where marks are emphasized more. If the person has a lot of ECs then should apply to schools that emphasize activities.

In the end, some schools ARE obviously "easier" than others, based on stats. If you have 3.0 cGPA well you will probably never get into harvard dental, it's easy as that, but you may get into like USC with some mediocre DAT. If you are considered a minority at some school then that's the easiest school for you. Not considering in state schools, private schools that cost like 400k like NYU will most likely be "easier" than others. It's just a fact.
 
form51 said:
hey,
i had a low gpa, and was wondering which dental schools are easier to get into with my situation,
thanks so much for your help
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To answer the OP's question (which said nothing about race):

"easier" dental schools in general have the following things:

1. Large class size with a high percentage of out of state acceptance

2. They are expensive

(If you are lucky enough) Your instate dental school(s) will also be "easier" to get into than other schools in general.

So in general apply to your instate school if you have one and apply to large expensive private schools.
 
Any program that requires an interview and has more applicants than seats available is DIFFICULT to get into. There's some schools that have early assurance programs, which may be an easy way into dental school. But that's it. No school is easy to get into.
 
AmpedUp said:
Any program that requires an interview and has more applicants than seats available is DIFFICULT to get into. There's some schools that have early assurance programs, which may be an easy way into dental school. But that's it. No school is easy to get into.
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+1

The 7 year program I am in still requires that I maintain a certain GPA, score a certain amount on the DAT and pass an interview, no school is "easy."
 
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