EDP 29R MCAT and 4.0 GPA

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I've been planning on applying to the early decision program at IU (attending school at IU Bloomington currently), and I took the MCAT on May 31 with my minimum goal being a 30 and at least an 8 on VR (my weakest section). Got the results today: 11 BS 11 PS 7 VR, writing score R.

Obviously, I'm 1 point too low in VR for EDP admission, but I was wondering how lenient schools are on that. I mean, I have a 4.0 and a pretty decent application aside from the slightly subpar MCAT. My question is, would IUSM even consider my EDP application?
 
with a 29 MCAT, it would be a disservice to yourself to apply EDP. You would not find out until Oct 15 if you are accepted or rejected, and if not accepted, October is VERY LATE in the cycle to apply to other schools, especially with that MCAT, despite the perfect GPA.

Retake, or apply broadly. If I were you, I'd just apply broadly and see what happens. Are you IN resident?
 
I'm an IN resident. The thing is that I haven't really considered many other schools. Part of me wants to think that a 4.0 in biochemistry trumps a slightly subpar MCAT and that I should apply EDP at IUSM anyway. I plan to talk to an advisor about this, but I thought I'd get some opinions online first. Thank you for your replies in advance.
 
I'm an IN resident. The thing is that I haven't really considered many other schools. Part of me wants to think that a 4.0 in biochemistry trumps a slightly subpar MCAT and that I should apply EDP at IUSM anyway. I plan to talk to an advisor about this, but I thought I'd get some opinions online first. Thank you for your replies in advance.

If you are an IN resident, it may change things. Sure, a 29 MCAT is somewhat on the weak side, but a 4.0 in a discipline like Biochemistry is not an easy accomplishment either. However, what about students from IN with a 4.0 in an equally difficult science major, with substantively higher MCAT scores than you? I would be inclined to think that, they would get preference over you for EDP.

The major thing I would address though, is that it is not wise to only apply to one school. Do you want to go to IU so greatly that you would prefer not to go to medical school at all if you couldn't get in? You may not get in for EDP, but you may have a strong shot at the regular pool, should they defer you to the general applicant pool. The thing is, though, that there are no guarantees in this game. A strong MCAT and a Strong GPA can get you close to one, but still, no guarantees. That is why it is generally encouraged to apply to several schools.

I know someone who graduated from an Ivy, double major in physics and biochemistry, graduated summa cum laude, DESTROYED their mcat, several publications in translational research, and still did not get accepted....after 2 cycles! They would make an amazing doctor, and I hope they do eventually succeed in getting to medical school, but the point is that despite being well rounded and an academic rock-star, this still did not guarantee them admission.

So, what happened? Did they bomb their interviews? Was there something on their application that was a kiss of death career-wise? Not likely. A very personable, cheerful, outgoing person, and an upstanding citizen who's sage wisdom and values are to be admired, I hold much doubt that there were any flukes on their app. Where they went wrong, was, this person, only applied to 8 schools each cycle. They weren't all top 10, or top 25 - an even balance of mid and top tier schools....and they didn't get accepted. Now, initially, I was worried, because my stats are nowhere near the same level as my friends, and if he couldn't get in with that kind of merit, how in my right my could I think that I would get into medical school? Well, this concern of mine was abolished when I found out how few schools they were applying to.

With stats like yours, I am not sure that "apply broadly" is necessarily the soundest of advice, but I would strongly encourage you to give thought into applying to at least 10 schools. IU is a great medical school, and lots of people want to go there - this means competition. You have an amazing GPA, obviously, but you may find much disappointment if you bulldoze forward with your plan to apply only to one school, don't get accepted (EDP or regular cycle,) and then consequently have to postpone your medical career by another year.

If you have strong ties to Indianapolis, or whichever city the campus you would indicate interest in for on your application is in, you can probably make a VERY convincing case for yourself, assuming everything else is tip top (shadowing? Volunteering? Clinical experiences? motivations? Research? Leadership?)

Again, my post suggests a lot of "ifs", but then again, thats the application process inherently.

Best of luck to you.
 
Wow! I appreciate the reply. I do have strong ties to both Indianapolis and Bloomington, and my application includes a letter from an assistant professor at IUSM as well as two well respected telecommunications and biochemistry professors at IU.

As far as the other parts of my application go, I have done a little volunteering and plan to do more at our hospital in Bloomington. I've also done some work with the PES/ALD fraternity and have DJ'd for a couple of years at our campus radio station. I haven't done research or lab work outside of my coursework, but I have a few shadowing experiences with a radiologist and two physicians. And my father is a physician with St. Vincent in Indianapolis. (He graduated from IU in 1981 with a crap GPA and not too great of an MCAT score. He ended up attending medical school in the Caribbean and is now one of the more well respected physicians in Indianapolis. A success story that might reassure some applicants, I guess [although this was 1982])

Although I haven't always wanted to go into medicine, throughout the last part of high school and for most of my college career I've known that I wanted to go to medical school. So I worked my tail off for three years and made sure to keep a perfect GPA and to do the extracurriculars that my free time allowed for.

The first time I took the MCAT I didn't study at all and got a 27R. One year later, after studying for 6 hours a day for about a month and feeling very comfortable with all of the material, I wind up with a 29R. I chalk it up to having an off day and kind of freaking out during the VR section. It just pains me to think that medical schools would lend more weight to my performance on a standardized test during five hours on a single day instead of a consistently outstanding performance over three years in the pursuit of a biochem B.S. degree (if I can toot my own horn). But maybe that's just how this application process goes.

Anyway, that's just a little bit about my situation. Anymore advice and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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