Einstein vs Maryland

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Einstein, but that's bc I'm IS and would like to stay in the city. That probably didn't help, lol.
 
Seriously? I personally do not like NYC, so I would go to Maryland...
 
tough call, probably AE, can you get residency at UMd after awhile?
 
chad5871 said:
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I'd probably go to AE then... I think the two schools are comparable in a lot of ways, but personally I'd rather be in NY, it's a pretty personal decision though. Two of my family members went to UMd and are attendings now, and liked it a lot.
 
chad5871 said:
Would it be possible to defer for a year, move to Maryland, and then claim residency right before first year started and get in-state tuition?
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That I'm not sure. You'd obviously have to have a good reason to give them other than the residency issue. I can't remember all the details about how to gain residency, but Maryland is one of the states where you pretty much have to cover all the bases (think along the lines of owning land/working and paying taxes/driver's license and car registration/length of residency in the state/etc).

It's been done, and from what I understand it's not uncommon for 1 or 2 people to finagle it in a given year, but it takes some work. For instance, someone I know has a girlfriend who lives in Maryland and whose parents own property but it's in her name, or something. His plan involved getting a BS job for a few weeks over the summer (to "pay taxes"), and he's getting married in the near future. I'm still not sure if this will work, but it gives you an idea of the manipulating of the system that needs to be done.

I know two other people with interesting stories. One lived in MD all his life, went to high school and college in the state, parents have lived here, etc. Had a job here, has an MD driver's license, the works. Moved down to a southern state for two years after college to work, and (I'm not clear about all the details and won't pretend to be) now is unable (at least as of now) to obtain in-state status. Another guy lived out west all his life, went to college out west, but his parents moved to Maryland a little under two years ago. He's paying in-state tuition here.

Someone else on the C/o 2013 thread might be able to offer more detailed/specific information about gaining residency. As an OOS student, it's something I'd love to be able to do, but so far I just haven't pursued the idea and I'm not sure I'd be able to swing it.
 
I'm not going to get IS status at Maryland. Any other thoughts? School? Program? Location? Match?
 
Having been to both schools, I would say it's a tough choice.

Einstein seems to have a little more prestige in the research world, but UM seems to have a lot of options for research as well. I also thought the facilities were much nicer at Maryland (sure einstein has the new translational research building...that med students aren't allowed in, and how cool is that surgical simulation center at UM??). Einstein seemed pretty on-point with the housing being so close and simple and all, but Maryland definitely has more options. I think the surrounding areas are comparable in terms of crime or whatever, but b-more probably has more crime and Einstein is an hour from Manhattan.

Also from talking with the students at Einstein, it seems they are very generous with financial aid.

Maryland (I think) has less class hours. Einstein's students all complained how the lectures weren't videotaped or put online, while maryland's are all videotaped and such.

Einstein has that small research requirement to meet...if you're not interested in doing research.

All things considered, I would choose Maryland over Einstein with cost being equal. No, not just because Einstein rejected me.
 
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yeah einstein's facilities/tech seem a bit outdated. can anyone comment?

i like everything else about einstein
 
I think that you should also consider that AECOM is P/F vs. UMd which is graded in the pre-clinical years.
 
bumppp still undecided. anyone making same decision?
 
drizzt3117 said:
I'd probably go to AE then... I think the two schools are comparable in a lot of ways, but personally I'd rather be in NY, it's a pretty personal decision though. Two of my family members went to UMd and are attendings now, and liked it a lot.
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My grandfather was a prof at einstein for a billion years before he retired. He told me not to apply, largely bc, and Im sure ill start a stir somewhere in the world, he always said, "AE is not in NY, it's in the bronx."

Consider where in NY you want to be, and then consider where AE is...

(p.s. he advised me to go to UMB, which is where Ill be in the fall.)
 
rogerwilco said:
Regardless of my affiliations, that would be a deal-breaker for me right there.
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seriously? because for most ppl, lectures are a pretty ****ty way to learn unless it's a fantastic lecturer. I'd rather read a book or go over the typed syllabus with tons of notes for a couple hours than go to lecture any day because I learn more. My friends who stopped going to lectures 2nd year saw a jump in their performance. dont' see how videotaped lectures would be any different, even with teh ability to go back and review something they said.
 
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Rendar5 said:
seriously? because for most ppl, lectures are a pretty ****ty way to learn unless it's a fantastic lecturer. I'd rather read a book or go over the typed syllabus with tons of notes for a couple hours than go to lecture any day because I learn more. My friends who stopped going to lectures 2nd year saw a jump in their performance. dont' see how videotaped lectures would be any different, even with teh ability to go back and review something they said.
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With video taped lectures, you do not have to go to class either. Instead you watch them at 2x speed, so that a 50 min. lecture becomes 25 mins.

However if you don't learn anything from lecture AT ALL, then neither option matters much.
 
rogerwilco said:
Someone else on the C/o 2013 thread might be able to offer more detailed/specific information about gaining residency. As an OOS student, it's something I'd love to be able to do, but so far I just haven't pursued the idea and I'm not sure I'd be able to swing it.
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I switched my residency from PA to MD while still in college. Here are the useful links:

http://medschool.umaryland.edu/dmrt/docs/instate.pdfhttp://www.marylandmva.com/DriverServ/Apply/proof.htm

http://www.marylandmva.com/DriverServ/Apply/proof.htm

It is quite difficult to do, but here is what I did.

1) Got a job in Maryland while in college
2) Reported state taxes in Maryland
3) Switched my driver's license to UMD (see second link)
4) Switched voter registration
5) Stopped being claimed as a dependent by my parents

Even by doing this, you still have to claim that more than 50% of your possessions are in Maryland and that you are not primarily residing in Maryland for school. However I was never asked to prove either of these things.

If you work a small job during medical school or over the summer, you might be able to swing it. Also by working over the summer you can claim that you are in Maryland for work and not solely for school. However it would be a giant PIA if you went through all of these steps and were still considered OOS.
 
serious question: if lectures aren't useful at all, is there any difference in the first 2 years at any med school? if people just study at home anyway lol
 
the rankings of einstein and maryland are now essentially the same (41, 42 respectively). does this change any people's opinions?
 
Sorry to be off topic a bit... but do you guys know if Maryland is friendly to OOS? I looked at the MSAR and it says the school interviews less than 10% of its OOS applicants. Compared to 37% of its IS applicants.:scared:
I don't know if I should apply.
 
potatoplease said:
the rankings of einstein and maryland are now essentially the same (41, 42 respectively). does this change any people's opinions?
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but why would it? There isnt a 1:1 correlation between rankings and reputation anyways.
 
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