EM isn't the only thing getting scorched right now..

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Burn docs in Arizona are warning the locals to beware coming into contact with things like asphalt and sidewalks due to the burn risk they pose as temperatures soar.

Apparently seven people died last year from these kinds of burns...yet the population there continues to grow at one of the fastest clips in the country. People seem to love it. What am I missing?

 
Burn docs in Arizona are warning the locals to beware coming into contact with things like asphalt and sidewalks due to the burn risk they pose as temperatures soar.

Apparently seven people died last year from these kinds of burns...yet the population there continues to grow at one of the fastest clips in the country. People seem to love it. What am I missing?


Just got back from a Bday vacation in AZ and Scottsdale is great. I would definitely live there if it wasn't for the low EM pay and state income tax.
 
Burn docs in Arizona are warning the locals to beware coming into contact with things like asphalt and sidewalks due to the burn risk they pose as temperatures soar.

Apparently seven people died last year from these kinds of burns...yet the population there continues to grow at one of the fastest clips in the country. People seem to love it. What am I missing?

Typically drunks or diabetics with neuropathy. It's can definitely happen. I don't live in AZ, but I live somewhere hot (near the beach) and I've had patients come in with the entire surface of the plantar aspect of the feet one big blister, 2nd degree burn, from walking on the sun-baked sand.
 
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You should go hang out in Imperial County in July.

Spent last summer there for their COVID surge working in a makeshift field hospital. Temperatures would routinely get 120+ during the daytime and would still be around 100+ at night. We had one shift where the AC unit failed and it got so hot inside that multiple COVID patients ended up getting heat stroke before we could evacuate them to other hospitals. The best part was they made us keep wearing our full body hazmat suits around COVID patients.
 
Truly a case of 'to each their own'. If I had to pick between extreme cold and extreme heat, I'd choose the former. I can at least do something about the cold when outdoors. You can always put on another layer of clothing. But when it's hot, what are you going to once your down to the skin? Get a nice sunburn?
 
Truly a case of 'to each their own'. If I had to pick between extreme cold and extreme heat, I'd choose the former. I can at least do something about the cold when outdoors. You can always put on another layer of clothing. But when it's hot, what are you going to once your down to the skin? Get a nice sunburn?
I grew up in Canada. Got very sick of 9 months of cold, dark, and having to to shovel snow almost daily. I'll take the 100+ degree heat any day. I don't have to get up an hour early just to prepare my car for an arctic expedition to work.
 
Truly a case of 'to each their own'. If I had to pick between extreme cold and extreme heat, I'd choose the former. I can at least do something about the cold when outdoors. You can always put on another layer of clothing. But when it's hot, what are you going to once your down to the skin? Get a nice sunburn?
You've never lived in MN in January, I suppose.
 
I've lived in Toronto, Canada, and Detroit Michigan. Also been to Buffalo in mid winter.
I'm with you. I'll take seasons and a winter over a scorched earth summer. I'm in upper midwest and we definitely get 4-5 months of winter but I love November/December. January it starts go get old and I have to admit I hate February and March but that's where properly timed travel can make a big difference. Overall I'd take upper midwest over the south or the desert and it's not even close.

My ideal scenario would be upper midwest main residence and then palm springs or something similar 1/1-3/31.
 
Just got back from a Bday vacation in AZ and Scottsdale is great. I would definitely live there if it wasn't for the low EM pay and state income tax.
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JUNE 18, 2021 7:30AM

Hoover Dam’s Lake Mead Hits Lowest Water Level Since 1930s
The reservoir generates electricity and supplies water to about 25 million people across tribal lands, farms and major cities

Lake Mead hit record-low water levels last week, highlighting the severe drought sweeping through the western United States, report Reuters’ Daniel Trotta and Andrea Januta. Formed by damming the Colorado River, the body of water is technically a reservoir of the Hoover Dam.

Since 2000, the water level has dropped 140 feet, Reuters reports. The previous record its low water level was 1,071.6 feet in 2016. Now, the lake has ducked just below that level at 1,071.56 feet.

“It’s frightening that it's happening so quickly,” water policy expert Felicia Marcus, who is currently a visiting fellow at Stanford University’s Water in the West program, tells the Arizona Republic. “It's past yellow alert. It's the red alert,”

The federal government is planning to declare an official water shortage at Lake Mead in August, which will result in large water cuts for Mexico, Arizona and Nevada. Lake Mead generates electricity and supplies water to about 25 million people across tribal lands, farms and major cities, including San Diego, Los Angeles and Phoenix. Las Vegas obtains about 90 percent of its drinking water from Lake Mead, according to the Post.


50 percent of San Diego’s water comes from the Colorado. 36% of Arizona's water comes from the Colorado. 30% of Los Angeles water comes from the Colorado.
Good luck living in places like Las Vegas, San Diego, Los Angeles, and Phoenix under severe water restrictions.
 
California steals a lot of our water and electricity. They dump tons of freshwater into SF Bay, but then drain the Colorado river to water almond crops.
 
California steals a lot of our water and electricity.
How does it do that? California is downstream of Nevada. Arizona and Mexico can make that claim, but how can someone from Las Vegas? It’s a serious question, assuming it has something to do with federal water rights that I know nothing about.
 
How does it do that? California is downstream of Nevada. Arizona and Mexico can make that claim, but how can someone from Las Vegas? It’s a serious question, assuming it has something to do with federal water rights that I know nothing about.

Essentially California built aqueducts to carry the water from Lake Mead to LA and SD as well as farms in Imperial Valley.
If we want to talk about water wastage, much of California's "Agriculture" is built in arid areas which normally can't support it without significant amounts of water being brought in from outside sources.
 
If we want to talk about water wastage, much of California's "Agriculture" is built in arid areas which normally can't support it without significant amounts of water being brought in from outside sources.
Thanks. I know what you’re taking about. When I drive to my part time gig in the Central Valley I pass tens of thousands of acres of almonds, in an area that gets a few inches of rain per year.
 
S$)( is about to get real this summer. I stocksd up on air filters, debating getting backup batteries for the solar panels, prob get some water storage just in case, maybe a couple rain barrels if it rains.

Im turning slowly into a damn doomsday prepper. Caught myself seriously contemplating getting chickens. Someone beaccch slap me.
 

Essentially California built aqueducts to carry the water from Lake Mead to LA and SD as well as farms in Imperial Valley.
If we want to talk about water wastage, much of California's "Agriculture" is built in arid areas which normally can't support it without significant amounts of water being brought in from outside sources.

And that agriculture comes right back to your grocery store so you can consume it.
 
And that agriculture comes right back to your grocery store so you can consume it.

I'm not disagreeing. Just that Vegas is about 3 million people, yet we use less than 10% of the water that comes from Lake Mead. We have no grassy lawns, and mandated desert-friendly landscaping for the past 20 years. Arizona is the same way. Proportionally homes in the two states use less water than CA or the other states that draw from Lake Mead.

California could, for example actually build reservoirs and channel its rainwater for later use. Why Does California Let Billions Of Gallons Of Fresh Water Flow Straight Into The Ocean?

In Vegas we have a system of channels that leads to "The Wash" which is a marshland that purifies the water and it empties back into lake mead.
 
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Politics aside and I’m sure not everyone here likes Maher which is fine, listen to these statistics about the watering for almonds. It’s absurd:

 
Politics aside and I’m sure not everyone here likes Maher which is fine, listen to these statistics about the watering for almonds. It’s absurd:



Well. Those stats are insane.
 
I've lived in Toronto, Canada, and Detroit Michigan. Also been to Buffalo in mid winter.
I've lived at Vostok (coldest ever recorded temperature was there) in an unheated tent. I'll still take the cold over Phoenix. But I was at Vostok in the summer and didn't experience below -60, so there's that I guess...
 
Speaking of California water shortages, they need to take and Israeli approach with recycling and desalination.
 
Lived In phoenix. Great place. 2-3 months a year unbearable. Half the city leaves to go somewhere near water. The question of what are you supposed to do? Go inside into your first world air conditioning.
I’ll take Phoenix any day over Chicago ( lived there too) and any other cold climate.
 
Lived In phoenix. Great place. 2-3 months a year unbearable. Half the city leaves to go somewhere near water. The question of what are you supposed to do? Go inside into your first world air conditioning.
I’ll take Phoenix any day over Chicago ( lived there too) and any other cold climate.

This will just be a personal preference thing. One has to experience both extremes: arctic tundra, and scorching desert to pick a side. We'd all love to live in 70-degree sunny weather in San Diego at the beach, but the tradeoffs to do so are too high.
 
For me it boils down to one simple fact:

I can dress well enough to be toasty warm when it is -40 F. However, there is only so much I can take off to remain cool before I am arrested.
Whereas, as I told my wife (who lived in Alaska, while I lived in Hawai'i), "Nobody freezes to death on the beach. You can do EVERYTHING right in Alaska in the winter, and still die."
 
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