Entering withdrawn class on aadsas

[dentite24]

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Hello SDN,

Kind of in a panic about this. I am a 4.0 student, but took an inorganic class for a chem minor and for fun, but then withdrew when I realized how 0/70 people in the class were going to get A's because of a pesky and quite lazy prof, and that it was simply a bore of a class. Anyways, I withdrew thinking it would have no effect on me. Everyone I had talked to and what I had seen online said that it wasn't even an option to be entered on the application... However, obviously in this stressful time I dug a little deeper and now I am not sure how I am supposed to enter a Withdrawn class; I haven't found anything for sure.

What I have found is that it is definitely entered as a W in aadsas. However, what I don't know is if I am supposed to enter credits attempted as 3 or 0? On my transcript it is listed as 0 credits attempted, which makes sense. If I have to enter 3, though, my GPA literally goes to a 3.87... and my science to a 3.8, which is just ridiculous.

Can anyone clarify?

 

[amariesa]

Quick google search:

Collected information includes data from all individual coursework taken at a post-secondary institution, including courses that are withdrawn, repeated courses, undergraduate labs, test credit, or other non-graded courses.

The following course types are not included in ADEA AADSAS GPA calculations:
o Advanced Placement/CLEP.
o Institutional Department Exam.
o Audit.
o International Baccalaureate.
o Incomplete.
o Pass/Fail.
o Withdraw/withdraw passing

 

[dentite24]

Okay, well I hope that that is true..

All the application instructions says about it is, "ADEA AADSAS is required to factor ALL attempts at courses into the GPA calculation, regardless of a school or state’s academic forgiveness policies. Marking a course as “repeated” will NOT exclude it from your GPA calculation." That's a statement that can make a person worry.

It would make sense that it would not count because it's counted as 0 credits attempted on your transcript and is not supposed to be something that affects your GPA, that is the point of the withdraw option... And, since it is grouped with pass/fail classes (it makes sense that these do not count because people could just take a bunch of these classes to boost their GPA) as you have listed above, W classes probably do not count.

 

[Dr.CinnamonRoll]

This is a question I have too; my transcript says General Chemistry for Engineers D+ (Attempted Credits = 0).
How would they know how to factor this into the average grades? It says D+, but if it says 0 attempted credits, does that mean that it doesn't play a role in my aadsas gpa? The retaken class had different credit hours too, so.... am I supposed to tell them how many credit hours it was?

 

[stoopidmonkeycatdog]

Okay, well I hope that that is true..

All the application instructions says about it is, "ADEA AADSAS is required to factor ALL attempts at courses into the GPA calculation, regardless of a school or state’s academic forgiveness policies. Marking a course as “repeated” will NOT exclude it from your GPA calculation." That's a statement that can make a person worry.

It would make sense that it would not count because it's counted as 0 credits attempted on your transcript and is not supposed to be something that affects your GPA, that is the point of the withdraw option... And, since it is grouped with pass/fail classes (it makes sense that these do not count because people could just take a bunch of these classes to boost their GPA) as you have listed above, W classes probably do not count.

A withdrawn course is not the same as a dropped course. When you drop a course the attempted hours are zero, as if you never took it.

When you withdraw from a class, the W is your grade. Meaning you still have attempted hours. So yes you will list attempted hours as 3, not zero, but it will not affect your gpa.

Source: Work in admissions, and applied to dental school last year.

 

[Medin2017]

A withdrawn course is not the same as a dropped course. When you drop a course the attempted hours are zero, as if you never took it.

When you withdraw from a class, the W is your grade. Meaning you still have attempted hours. So yes you will list attempted hours as 3, not zero, but it will not affect your gpa.

Source: Work in admissions, and applied to dental school last year.

True but a lot of schools assume you fail the course if they see a W apparently. I think even a C would be better (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[stoopidmonkeycatdog]

True but a lot of schools assume you fail the course if they see a W apparently. I think even a C would be better (correct me if I'm wrong).

It is absolutely worse to have a C than a W.

 

[Medin2017]

It is absolutely worse to have a C than a W.

Oh ok guess med is different. Was always told they assume w=fail

 

[FeralisExtremum]

Oh ok guess med is different. Was always told they assume w=fail

They don't. They assume W = withdraw, because that's what it means. There are many reasons people withdraw from courses unrelated to performance.

 

[Medin2017]

They don't. They assume W = withdraw, because that's what it means. There are many reasons people withdraw from courses unrelated to performance.

Got it thx. Do they usually ask about it

 

[stoopidmonkeycatdog]

Oh ok guess med is different. Was always told they assume w=fail

No, you can have a W for several different reasons, death in the family, illness, relocation etc. I don't think any graduate school views a W in the same way they view an F, it just doesn't make sense. It also doesn't affect your GPA so it's automatically better than getting a 0.00 on your record and bringing your average down.

 

[stoopidmonkeycatdog]

Got it thx. Do they usually ask about it

No, but they may ask about it if you have a full semester of W's or have gone over your limit of W's (let's say you withdraw from 3 classes normally, then one semester you have medical withdrawals that the school permits you to go over the W limit for). Sometimes depending on the rest of your app they may bring it up though.

I had two withdrawals freshmen year (I was traveling a lot as part of an organization and overestimated my available time) it never came up while interviewing.

 

[FeralisExtremum]

No, but they may ask about it if you have a full semester of W's or have gone over your limit of W's (let's say you withdraw from 3 classes normally, then one semester you have medical withdrawals that the school permits you to go over the W limit for). Sometimes depending on the rest of your app they may bring it up though.

I had two withdrawals freshmen year (I was traveling a lot as part of an organization and overestimated my available time) it never came up while interviewing.

Agreed, W's are really only a red flag when you have a lot of them consistently because it may look like you were dodging poor performance in classes to pad your GPA. A W here or there (with exception to medical withdrawals) is not a problem.