EPPP Changes-What Happens to Licensed Psychologists Moving Between States?

[CuriousHedgehog]

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As you guys know, ASPPB has paused its plans to make EPPP Part 2 mandatory in January 2026 and is now considering a single exam that integrates both Parts 1 and 2.

How do you think this will impact psychologists licensed in states like New York, which currently require only Part 1, if they later seek licensure in a different state, say Arizona for instance, after the new re-imagined exam takes effect? Will they need to retake this new form of EPPP? I ask because, currently, psychologists moving to states such as Georgia (where the EPPP Part 2 is required) have to take it even if they were already licensed in a state that only mandated Part 1. I realize that there aren't definitive answers at the moment but thoughts are appreciated and welcome! I would hope that those of us who have taken the EPPP as is will not have to take the new exam when that happens.

 

[WisNeuro]

In the various states I am/have been licensed, one needed to meet the requirements of the new state, if they had not already. In one instance, IU was able to get a fats-tracked license because I had ABPP board cert, but still had to take the jurisprudence. That latter part doe snot get exemptions from seniority or board cert. So, I assume if the state uses the EPPP-2, one would have to take and pass it, unless they codify an exemption into law.

 

[CuriousHedgehog]

In the various states I am/have been licensed, one needed to meet the requirements of the new state, if they had not already. In one instance, IU was able to get a fats-tracked license because I had ABPP board cert, but still had to take the jurisprudence. That latter part doe snot get exemptions from seniority or board cert. So, I assume if the state uses the EPPP-2, one would have to take and pass it, unless they codify an exemption into law.

Jurisprudence exams are entirely different in my opinion in terms of cost, effort (length and difficulty), and burden (amount of studying needed). I would certainly hope that they do not generalize this practice to EPPP

 

[R. Matey]

This is likely vary state-by-state, tbh. Some states may mandate the updated test where others will likely involve a grandfathering process. My wager is that the majority will favor the latter option rather than the former.

 

[CuriousHedgehog]

This is likely vary state-by-state, tbh. Some states may mandate the updated test where others will likely involve a grandfathering process. My wager is that the majority will favor the latter option rather than the former.

Want to bet on what states? Lol 😊

 

[R. Matey]

Want to bet on what states? Lol 😊

lol, hard to say honestly. I was surprised that the challenge for the EPPP-2 came from TX of all places. I would've thought that blue states would've opposed it on equity grounds. I live in such a state and there was serious talk of abolishing the EPPP altogether not that long ago.

 

[CuriousHedgehog]

lol, hard to say honestly. I was surprised that the challenge for the EPPP-2 came from TX of all places. I would've thought that blue states would've opposed it on equity grounds. I live in such a state and there was serious talk of abolishing the EPPP altogether not that long ago.

Oh wow, what a world that would be haha. Sadly I don’t think it’d be easy to get rid of it though since most professions seem to have some sort of exam and $$ reasons? Idk

 

[R. Matey]

Oh wow, what a world that would be haha. Sadly I don’t think it’d be easy to get rid of it though since most professions seem to have some sort of exam and $$ reasons? Idk

I'm a fan of a testing standard though i acknowledge that the EPPP is not perfect. My hope for this new and improved version is that the developers are open about its psychometrics and predictive validity.

 

[WisNeuro]

Jurisprudence exams are entirely different in my opinion in terms of cost, effort (length and difficulty), and burden (amount of studying needed). I would certainly hope that they do not generalize this practice to EPPP

Meh, about the same in terms of difficulty. Maybe marginally longer for many.

lol, hard to say honestly. I was surprised that the challenge for the EPPP-2 came from TX of all places. I would've thought that blue states would've opposed it on equity grounds. I live in such a state and there was serious talk of abolishing the EPPP altogether not that long ago.

Yeah, a lot of states psych associations debated this a few years back, driven a lot by those deeply flawed Sharpless studies.

 

[R. Matey]

Yeah, a lot of states psych associations debated this a few years back, driven a lot by those deeply flawed Sharpless studies.

Equity was the big one though I'm sure Sharpless studies influenced it. What killed that very dumb idea ultimately was potential PSYPACT withdrawal, which thankfully was a non-starter for the majority.