EVMS Medical Master Acceptance

[confuse]

Hello,
I have just been accepted to the EVMS Medical Masters program. I do not know much about this program so if you are familiar with it, please give me input. I have heard that over 75% of students in this program get accepted into medical school which is great to hear. Is acceptance only based on your performance in the program or the entire package (undergrad gpa, extracurricular, etc...) I believe that they encourage matriculants to apply for med school the same year in the program, are there specific schools that look favorably at students in this program? One last question, if I attend this program and begin establishing VA residency this summer and get accepted next year to EVMS med school, will I be consider in-state resident for tuition purposes? Thanks. I wish everyone well. 🙂

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[junebuguf]

EVMS is probably the most regional of the SMP programs. The Medical Masters program at EVMS is basically the majority of first-year medical school courses. If you do well, obviously it will look favorably upon your application, but your entire application package matters as much as your grades in this program. That means your MCAT score, undergrad grades, ECs, LOR, et.

If you do well, you have a great shot at EVMS, and perhaps other schools in the area--MCV, UVA and perhaps GWU and Georgetown. Other schools may or may not be that impressed. Georgetown, which is right up 95 in DC is a much better known SMP program that, all else being equal, will give you a better shot at acceptance. If you are going to to an SMP program anyway, you should try Georgetown first, Boston University second and then either EVMS or Drexel.

 

[confuse]

Hi junebug,
Thank you for your reply. I have looked at the Georgetown SMP but I'm leaning more toward the EVMS SMP at the moment. Do you (or others) know if I begin establishing VA residency this summer and attending EVMS SMP, by the time next year rolls around, would I be consider VA resident for tuition purposes for EVMS or other VA med schools? Thanks.

 

[CoolCucumber]

Too bad they don't take many people. I'm scared of not getting in!

 

[junebuguf]

I really dont know how residency works for grad students. Some grad programs that I know of like the PA program at UF, allows students to become eligible for FL residency after the first year for tuition purposes. Contact EVMS directly and ask them. Really, I doubt it, since you're only going there for school, and not establishing yourself as a resident with a job/house/license et. But call MCV and EVMS directly for confirmation.

Also, you should have little reason to pick EVMS over Georgetown unless you really want to go to EVMS or another VA school for your MD. Georgetown is roundly considered the better program and will almost certainly give you a better chance at every other school to which you apply. EVMS only has the advantage at one school--EVMS. If you are considering SMP programs, you are probably a fringe candidate for med school anyway, so why take the additional risk of reducing your chances at other schools in favor of increasing them at only one? You need to cast a wider net.

 

[confuse]

Hi junebug,
I'm leaning more toward EVMS SMP for several reasons, but maybe I will become convinced otherwise. 🙂
1) EVMS SMP has one of the best linkage program to their medical school, currently at 75% versus 20% for Georgetown SMP. Granted that it's not a guaranteed like the old Rosalind Franklin AP program, but it's very darn close. Having been through the application process, I learn that this process is very random at times. Having the strong linkage program gives me additonal comfort when it's time to reapply.
2) EVMS SMP encourages SMP applicants to apply the same year they're in the program so there is no glide year. Not that you can't apply the same year in the Georgetown SMP, but I have a low undergrad GPA (lower than the average GPA in Georgetown SMP) so I do not see how 1 more semester would have helped me getting into med school, that is assuming that I come out with a good GPA against the most intense SMP competition. However, the 75% acceptance rate for EVMS medical master is for those who apply to EVMS med school right of the bat. Furthermore, I heard that if you do well in EVMS SMP, you would not have to retake the same class if you got into EVMS med school and could TA the class. This is really nice since it will give me more time to take other classes of interest or do research.

The only advantage of Georgetown SMP is its reputation, but reputation is no good if you don't have the right numbers. Once again, another personal experience of mine since my undergrad would be considered very reputable but to date, i have no med school acceptance. 🙁

 

[junebuguf]

If you are applying to EVMS solely to go EVMS, then you are short changing yourself. Be wary of the numbers quoted by SMP programs. On the whole, they help, yes, but look closely at their acceptance rate. Are you sure the 75% rate is not after two years (counting the people who wait a year to apply)? How is your MCAT? If its at or below average, you may be at a disadvantage against the very people in the EVMS SMP class that are applying to EVMS with you. Same with your gpa--if you have a very low gpa, that is, lower than that of the EVMS SMP kids who are applying to EVMS, that would put you at a further disadvantage. There are a lot of reasons that you may end up in the 25% category. The people that get in after the first year are also the people who ace the first year classes. Ask yourself, can you get straight A's in all those classes. I'm in an SMP right now, and its hard as hell to do it. And I got straight A's in two years of undergrad upper level bio classes, and a 34 on the MCAT. I will be lucky if I manage a 3.7 right now. A 3.5 seems more likely.

There are a lot of variables that you need to consider before thinking that you are a lock for the EVMS class. Look at the finer details. There may be a lot of reasons to keep you from getting in.

 

[Touchdown]

Confuse, Im a current G-town SMP student just want to correct some of the things you believe about the G-town. Yes, only 20% of us get into Georgetown but 80% of us get into a medical school, many schools accept a lot of SMPers including EVMS (I have an interview there this year.) This is the reason Georgetown is seen as the best SMP, because you arent tied down to one school.

G-town also strongly suggests you apply during your SMP year. If you get into Georgetown every medical school class you took in the SMP you get credit, this is true to a lesser extent at some select schools (off the top of my head GW and Drexel but Im sure there is more.) The other nice thing about the SMP is that for your medical school classes you are graded on the med students curves and fellow SMPers do not figure into that curve (therefore every SMP student could technically get an A,) I dont know about EVMS enough to know if that is true there.

As for reputation, I hear you, I had the same experience with my undergrad. However G-towns rep is legit, last year I had two interviews, this year I have 5 and Georgetown hasnt even interviewed us yet. So in a nut shell, give the GU a look.

 

[CoolCucumber]

I just talked to EVMS. When I told her about my situation, she sounded really grouchy. Oh maaaan 😱

 

[yoyo13]

Hello,
I have just been accepted to the EVMS Medical Masters program. I do not know much about this program so if you are familiar with it, please give me input. I have heard that over 75% of students in this program get accepted into medical school which is great to hear. Is acceptance only based on your performance in the program or the entire package (undergrad gpa, extracurricular, etc...) I believe that they encourage matriculants to apply for med school the same year in the program, are there specific schools that look favorably at students in this program? One last question, if I attend this program and begin establishing VA residency this summer and get accepted next year to EVMS med school, will I be consider in-state resident for tuition purposes? Thanks. I wish everyone well. 🙂

I just applied to the EVMS program and was curious how long it took you to get a decision back. Also if you dont mind, what were your stats, I am just wondering if I have a chance of getting in.
thanks

 

[confuse]

junebug & touchdown,
Thanks for your info. I'll look into Georgetown SMP again. It looks tough. I hope you both got your medical school acceptance.
CoolCucumber,
Good luck to you CC. Give it a shot, you never know. 🙂
yoyo13,
I sent my application in late Dec/early Jan. I just got accepted a few days ago. I think they have just started accepting people. My stats is 31N, Cumulative ~3.2, BCPM ~3.1 with good letters of rec and a variety of extracurricular activites.

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Hello fellow smp'ers and future smp'ers. As a current EVMS medical masters student I can dispell any of rumours that some posters on this thread are slanging around regarding EVMS. Yes, it's true that around 75% of the med masters get in the following year. last year out of 19 students 15 got in. Far better numbers than any current smp program. As far as Georgetown being the best....cost...no guarantee...2 year process....me thinks not. I am a current student and I love it here. There are only 100 medical students per class and 20 med masters and as a med master you take all the courses that the med students take except for anatomy and 2 other really light courses that aren't in the hard basic sciences. The education here is outstanding and so is the support and cohesiveness of the student body. There are no guarantees at this program and i have never worked so hard in my life but if you have a passion for medicine it will show. The same very professors that teach the courses are senior admissions commitee members and if you do your job which is beat the medical student average on the exams you will impress people. You have a great shot to fullfill a dream with this program and by doing well, i promise you, the right people will notice. Oh, another cool aspect of this course is that you don't have to repeat any course you high pass so that means your M1 year will leave plenty of time for other stuff.

In short, this program rocks and I'm profoundly glad I chose it over GT or any other program. If your in doubt make the investment and visit. It should be an easy decision after that.

Regards,

Tooth

 

[TiggidyTooth]

If you are applying to EVMS solely to go EVMS, then you are short changing yourself.QUOTE]

I love this quote. How exactly do you short change yourself by getting into medical school? Especially a sweet one like EVMS? Perhaps Eastern Tennesse would be more favorable...oh...but then you're really rolling the dice.

 

[chaeymaey]

So if I go to EVMS masters should I apply to med school before I start so that I can start med school there right after the program ends, since there's such a high chance of acceptance? I'm not sure if I should go ahead and reapply this year while I'm in an SMP, or wait until after I finish a year of grad coursework.

 

[TiggidyTooth]

So if I go to EVMS masters should I apply to med school before I start so that I can start med school there right after the program ends, since there's such a high chance of acceptance? I'm not sure if I should go ahead and reapply this year while I'm in an SMP, or wait until after I finish a year of grad coursework.

Definately apply while attending EVMS if you want to be a medical student here the following year.

Tooth

 

[TiggidyTooth]

So if I go to EVMS masters should I apply to med school before I start so that I can start med school there right after the program ends, since there's such a high chance of acceptance? I'm not sure if I should go ahead and reapply this year while I'm in an SMP, or wait until after I finish a year of grad coursework.

Definately apply while attending EVMS if you want to be a medical student here the following year. No glide year for us med masters!

Tooth

 

[chaeymaey]

Do you think I have a good shot at getting into the program? My mdapplicants stats are in my sig. Is there a preference for in-state? I've attached my personal statement for the program. Do you think it is good enough for acceptance?

 

[CoolCucumber]

Wow you guys are a lot nicer in this post-bac forum. I'm getting ripped to shreds on other forums i.e. allo for being dismissed from med school. It's like med students/doctors enjoy watching others go down, but here we're all equal in pre-med because we're all trying to get in so we feel each other's pain.

By the way...all of you in this forum...I hope you guys are my classmates if I do (by some ungodly chance) get into evms...because you're all really supportive of me despite my situation 🙂

 

[CoolCucumber]

Chaeymaey! I sent you a pm but your box is full!

 

[chaeymaey]

Chaeymaey! I sent you a pm but your box is full!

Ah! Sorry, it's clear now.

 

[yoyo13]

Do you think I have a good shot at getting into the program? My mdapplicants stats are in my sig. Is there a preference for in-state? I've attached my personal statement for the program. Do you think it is good enough for acceptance?

Yea, I am also curious as to what the typical stats are for someone who gets accepted to the Med MAster's program at EVMS (I am 28, 3.54...Will that cut it?)
Thanks

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Yea, I am also curious as to what the typical stats are for someone who gets accepted to the Med MAster's program at EVMS (I am 28, 3.54...Will that cut it?)
Thanks

typical #'s to get in would be 3.2 GPA with a 28 MCAT minimum. I know a girl who was initially waitlisted with a 3.2 GPA and a 26 MCAT, got her MCAT up to a 29 and got in as soon as they saw the improvement. This program is really for those with low GPA's, not low MCAT's. I actually had a GPA that was way below the average like less than 3.0 but I did do a bunch of post-bac work just to get into the program. This program is really amazing and I hope those that are on the fence of coming here really take a good hard look at what EVMS has to offer. The school is relatively new on the seen but it's strength lies in its early clinical exposure and the breadth of clinical population here is incredible. You will see a wide variety of disease during your clerkships. Make the investment and come visit.

Tooth

 

[confuse]

Hi TiggidyTooth,
Thank you for joining this topic. It's very nice to hear from a current student in the program. I just got accepted to the Medical Master program and waitlisted at EVMS. During my med school interview there, I fell in love with the school. I was impressed by the cohesiveness of the student body and the school's emphasis on community involvement & volunteer work. When you and your classmates apply this year, do you apply to only EVMS or to other medical schools as well? Could you describe how the process work? If you are in the Medical Masters program, when should you apply? Is it ok to take the August MCAT? Should you wait to finish the first semester to obtain your professor's reccommendation & scores before you finish the secondaries? And final acceptance decision to EVMS depends on the entire package or mostly on your performance in the Medical Master program? Thank.
confuse

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Hi TiggidyTooth,
Thank you for joining this topic. It's very nice to hear from a current student in the program. I just got accepted to the Medical Master program and waitlisted at EVMS. During my med school interview there, I fell in love with the school. I was impressed by the cohesiveness of the student body and the school's emphasis on community involvement & volunteer work. When you and your classmates apply this year, do you apply to only EVMS or to other medical schools as well? Could you describe how the process work? If you are in the Medical Masters program, when should you apply? Is it ok to take the August MCAT? Should you wait to finish the first semester to obtain your professor's reccommendation & scores before you finish the secondaries? And final acceptance decision to EVMS depends on the entire package or mostly on your performance in the Medical Master program? Thank.
confuse

When you and your classmates apply this year, do you apply to only EVMS or to other medical schools as well? We apply too all the schools we can including EVMS. As a medical masters student you typically apply to medical the summer before your medical master program officially begins. As a masters student you get an automatic interview to EVMS and we are typically interviewed in late March. The risk is that we are automatically put on the waitlist, but the good thing is is that there is usually a lot of movement on the waitlist but that is the risk that you take with the program. If you do well and for whatever reason a spot does not open up for you in previous years those students did get in the following year but historically 75% of the students get in without having to wait a year. You will hear about being accepted between graduation and mid July.

Is it ok to take the August MCAT? Taking the August MCAT is fine for the medical school acceptance process but too late for the Medical Masters process.

Should you wait to finish the first semester to obtain your professor's reccommendation & scores before you finish the secondaries?
No, finish you secondaries as soon as possible. Dr. Meyer will write a letter on your behalf and send it out to all schools that you need. He is also the man who will present you before the admissions committee.

And final acceptance decision to EVMS depends on the entire package or mostly on your performance in the Medical Master program? Your performance in the program is by far and away the most important piece to the puzzle. But, many of the students in the program are highly driven and are exceptional students. We consistantly beat the medical schools students average so little things start to make the difference. You are definately encouraged to participate in community service and volunteering activities to show your enthusiasm for being part of the medical program. This school is huge on volunteering. That being said, if you get accepted into the program the commitee will not penalize for anything you've done in your past. Everyone is on the same playing field so to speak, so when you get here be prepared to work as hard as you ever have. If you have the passion you'll do well.

Tooth

 

[confuse]

Thanks Tooth. Your information is extremely helpful to me because I'm deciding between different SMP programs. I also got into the BU MAMS program. I didn't realize that the EVMS MS students are automatically put on the waiting list. I will take this into consideration. I'm also currently waitlisted at the EVMS. Hopefully, I will get accepted off the waitlist and would not have to worry about reapplying. Best of wishes to your upcoming interview. 🙂