EVMS Medical Masters 2021-2022

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Hey everyone,

Looks like acceptance offers are rolling out for the the EVMS Medical Masters programs, figured it was time to make a new thread for the next year. Excited to hear about your apps and acceptances.

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Submitting my app this week without the MCAT 🙁 I wasn't able to get a January or March test so I'll hopefully get it in April. V stressful since it's rolling admissions but I'm hoping they'll understand due to covid 😩
 
Submitting my app this week without the MCAT 🙁 I wasn't able to get a January or March test so I'll hopefully get it in April. V stressful since it's rolling admissions but I'm hoping they'll understand due to covid 😩
Definitely possible to move it to an earlier date as people drop. I have seen in past threads that they accept people as late as March/April, if you reach out to their med masters advisers they can give you some good feedback, I know I got some.
 
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Past EVMS Med master and current M4. If you guys have any questions feel free to ask.
 
Past EVMS Med master and current M4. If you guys have any questions feel free to ask.
Any advice on how to create a compelling application to get admitted into the medical masters program? And if accepted, how to maximize chances of getting accepted into EVMS medical school? Did you apply to any other SMP programs, and why did you choose EVMS medical masters? Did you enjoy your experience? Thanks in advance!
 
Your application should try and focus on core strengths. My application focused on my work and healthcare experience, maturity (ran my own tutoring company) and volunteering. Tried to have all my extracurriculars tie back to these core areas or at least tie to attributes I would talk about in my core areas. Find your core strengths and try the best you can to have them come through in as much of your application as possible, not everything can usually be tied to a core strength and that’s ok but a lot can. My application for example had only a 3.0 gpa but over a decade of healthcare experience and a pretty unique path through my twenties.

Best way to get accepted is to do well in courses (my goal was to get an A- or better in every course), be present and visible on campus (ie go to class at least 50% or more of the time even if it’s offer online), do something be it class leadership, course representative or spend a good amount of time in one of the volunteering groups. Less is more here you don’t have to do everything, better to do a bit less and get better grades. For example I was a course rep once and did a few Ronald McDonald dinners and a bit more volunteering (probably 20-30hrs over the whole year).

I applied and was accepted into the SMP program at Touro in California but chose to leave Ca and come to Virginia because of how nice and supportive the EVMS Med masters program was, that and the fact touro program was run by rude dinguses. It was a great decision I got opportunities at EVMS during Med master year and medical school that I wouldn’t have gotten anywhere else.

I very much enjoyed the experience. Well as much as one can. Frankly an SMP done anywhere is about one of the most stressful things you can do. In talking with people who have come before me they rank it as bad if not worse than intern year because of how much is riding on your performance. That said I would do it again in a heart beat the only thing I would change is not waste so much time trying to do a DIY post bac and instead just done the Med master program earlier.

I would ask the Med master program if april is too late or not but I suspect it isn’t a problem. I knew come people who took the MCAT later than that and still got in.
 
Your application should try and focus on core strengths. My application focused on my work and healthcare experience, maturity (ran my own tutoring company) and volunteering. Tried to have all my extracurriculars tie back to these core areas or at least tie to attributes I would talk about in my core areas. Find your core strengths and try the best you can to have them come through in as much of your application as possible, not everything can usually be tied to a core strength and that’s ok but a lot can. My application for example had only a 3.0 gpa but over a decade of healthcare experience and a pretty unique path through my twenties.

Best way to get accepted is to do well in courses (my goal was to get an A- or better in every course), be present and visible on campus (ie go to class at least 50% or more of the time even if it’s offer online), do something be it class leadership, course representative or spend a good amount of time in one of the volunteering groups. Less is more here you don’t have to do everything, better to do a bit less and get better grades. For example I was a course rep once and did a few Ronald McDonald dinners and a bit more volunteering (probably 20-30hrs over the whole year).

I applied and was accepted into the SMP program at Touro in California but chose to leave Ca and come to Virginia because of how nice and supportive the EVMS Med masters program was, that and the fact touro program was run by rude dinguses. It was a great decision I got opportunities at EVMS during Med master year and medical school that I wouldn’t have gotten anywhere else.

I very much enjoyed the experience. Well as much as one can. Frankly an SMP done anywhere is about one of the most stressful things you can do. In talking with people who have come before me they rank it as bad if not worse than intern year because of how much is riding on your performance. That said I would do it again in a heart beat the only thing I would change is not waste so much time trying to do a DIY post bac and instead just done the Med master program earlier.

I would ask the Med master program if april is too late or not but I suspect it isn’t a problem. I knew come people who took the MCAT later than that and still got in.
Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my post! I enjoyed reading about your experiences with the program and your advice on applying. It was all super helpful! I definitely will try to tie everything back to my core strengths and submit the best application possible. I have been trying to do a DIY post-bacc at my local cc, and I’ve maxed out all the classes I could possibly take. Hope I get accepted to EVMS med masters, it’s my top choice! Thanks again for all your help. Best of luck to you in your last year as a med student. 😊
 
Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my post! I enjoyed reading about your experiences with the program and your advice on applying. It was all super helpful! I definitely will try to tie everything back to my core strengths and submit the best application possible. I have been trying to do a DIY post-bacc at my local cc, and I’ve maxed out all the classes I could possibly take. Hope I get accepted to EVMS med masters, it’s my top choice! Thanks again for all your help. Best of luck to you in your last year as a med student. 😊
Hey! how long did it take you to hear back from the program? also, did you apply for the 1 year or 2 year program?
 
Past EVMS Med master and current M4. If you guys have any questions feel free to ask.
Hi, it is really so nice to hear from a graduate! I recently got into the two year program and I was wondering if you could elaborate on the quality of advising that you received. I went to a large undergrad and never really felt like I was guided appropriately through the premed battle lol. Would you say that the advisors were helpful when going through the med school application process?
 
Hey! how long did it take you to hear back from the program? also, did you apply for the 1 year or 2 year program?
Hi! I applied to the 2 year program. Complete on 12/30, accepted 1/21. cGPA 3.2, sGPA 3.0, MCAT 502
 
Hi, it is really so nice to hear from a graduate! I recently got into the two year program and I was wondering if you could elaborate on the quality of advising that you received. I went to a large undergrad and never really felt like I was guided appropriately through the premed battle lol. Would you say that the advisors were helpful when going through the med school application process?
My understanding is that you guys get quite a bit more guidance then the 1 yr program because your around longer. My advisor meetings were more time to talk about the stresses of the Med master year, talk about life and family. I was closer in age to my advisor then I was to most of my classmates so my experience is probably not typical. In talking with others they seemed to feel the advising was fairly good. The few 2 he program people I know thought their advising was excellent.
 
My understanding is that you guys get quite a bit more guidance then the 1 yr program because your around longer. My advisor meetings were more time to talk about the stresses of the Med master year, talk about life and family. I was closer in age to my advisor then I was to most of my classmates so my experience is probably not typical. In talking with others they seemed to feel the advising was fairly good. The few 2 he program people I know thought their advising was excellent.
This was super helpful, thank you!
 
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Hey! how long did it take you to hear back from the program? also, did you apply for the 1 year or 2 year program?
Haven’t applied yet, waiting to apply after I take my MCAT in April. Planning to apply to the 1 year program, though! Which are you leaning towards?
 
Hey! how long did it take you to hear back from the program? also, did you apply for the 1 year or 2 year program?

I applied pretty early, within one month of the program opening and heard back from an advisor about 3 weeks after from an advisor helping me button up everything with my application. I think between application and acceptance it took ~5-6 weeks.

I am in the one year program and applied earlier than most though. Seems to be a pretty consistent timeline though.
 
I’m currently in the second year of the 2 Year MM Program. Feel free to ask me anything!
How do you like the program? Would you do it all over again? How’s Norfolk? Why did you choose to apply to 2 year vs 1 year? Did you apply to both? It always makes me smile to see a current student being willing to help current applicants, so I really appreciate you!
 
How do you like the program? Would you do it all over again? How’s Norfolk? Why did you choose to apply to 2 year vs 1 year? Did you apply to both? It always makes me smile to see a current student being willing to help current applicants, so I really appreciate you!
Hello! I remember being in your shoes and trying to gather all the info I could from SDN, so just trying to pay it forward haha.

How do you like the program?
-I absolutely love it! The faculty here really care about their students and want them to succeed. If you ever have a question about anything, you can expect to receive a response the same day or next day, if not within a few hours (that goes for Med Master's Faculty as well as your professors). They pair you with a "Big Sib" who is a year ahead of you in the program to mentor you throughout your time in the program and that was beneficial for me in terms of getting acclimated to being in Norfolk as well as starting the program. The Med Master's Faculty assist you during your med school application cycle by reviewing your application materials, helping you build your school list, etc. There's an Academic Development Department here where you get paired with an advisor who works with you to identify your learning style and study strategies that work best for you. I meet with my advisor on a regular basis and it's been incredibly helpful. Peer tutoring is also available at no cost to students. I've made some of my greatest friends in this program and it's really easy to form study groups with your classmates (although virtual now). The student body here is heavily involved with community service, so there are numerous opportunities to participate in that if you're interested. Your professors as well as the physicians who work at the school are very accessible and it's easy to find a mentor here, get involved with research, etc. It's just a really supportive environment and I feel that made all the difference for me in terms of my success in this program. It's like having a home away from home!

Would you do it all over again?
-If I had to go back in time and do the application process over again I would choose EVMS a million times. Being in a Special Master's Program can get stressful sometimes so idk if I would want to put myself through that again haha. But if I had no choice but to do a SMP again, I would pick EVMS for sure.

How's Norfolk?
-I love living in Norfolk. The area immediately surrounding the school is known as Ghent and it's a slow paced neighborhood. Downtown Norfolk is literally across the street from the school and Virginia Beach is only a 20-30 min drive, so I like having access to both Ghent and the city when I want some excitement lol. There's a lot of stuff to do in the area: hiking, shopping, restaurants, bars, beach, etc. It has something for everyone.

Why did you choose to apply to 2 year vs 1 year? Did you apply to both?
-I chose the 2 year because I needed to repair my gpa as well as retake the MCAT. I liked that they had a MCAT Kaplan Course already built into the curriculum for the 2 year program. If you're unsure of which program is the best fit for you, you can always reach out to someone in the Med Master's Department. They are very nice and will be able to tell you which one would be the best choice for you. I personally didn't apply to both.

Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions!
 
Hello! I remember being in your shoes and trying to gather all the info I could from SDN, so just trying to pay it forward haha.

How do you like the program?
-I absolutely love it! The faculty here really care about their students and want them to succeed. If you ever have a question about anything, you can expect to receive a response the same day or next day, if not within a few hours (that goes for Med Master's Faculty as well as your professors). They pair you with a "Big Sib" who is a year ahead of you in the program to mentor you throughout your time in the program and that was beneficial for me in terms of getting acclimated to being in Norfolk as well as starting the program. The Med Master's Faculty assist you during your med school application cycle by reviewing your application materials, helping you build your school list, etc. There's an Academic Development Department here where you get paired with an advisor who works with you to identify your learning style and study strategies that work best for you. I meet with my advisor on a regular basis and it's been incredibly helpful. Peer tutoring is also available at no cost to students. I've made some of my greatest friends in this program and it's really easy to form study groups with your classmates (although virtual now). The student body here is heavily involved with community service, so there are numerous opportunities to participate in that if you're interested. Your professors as well as the physicians who work at the school are very accessible and it's easy to find a mentor here, get involved with research, etc. It's just a really supportive environment and I feel that made all the difference for me in terms of my success in this program. It's like having a home away from home!

Would you do it all over again?
-If I had to go back in time and do the application process over again I would choose EVMS a million times. Being in a Special Master's Program can get stressful sometimes so idk if I would want to put myself through that again haha. But if I had no choice but to do a SMP again, I would pick EVMS for sure.

How's Norfolk?
-I love living in Norfolk. The area immediately surrounding the school is known as Ghent and it's a slow paced neighborhood. Downtown Norfolk is literally across the street from the school and Virginia Beach is only a 20-30 min drive, so I like having access to both Ghent and the city when I want some excitement lol. There's a lot of stuff to do in the area: hiking, shopping, restaurants, bars, beach, etc. It has something for everyone.

Why did you choose to apply to 2 year vs 1 year? Did you apply to both?
-I chose the 2 year because I needed to repair my gpa as well as retake the MCAT. I liked that they had a MCAT Kaplan Course already built into the curriculum for the 2 year program. If you're unsure of which program is the best fit for you, you can always reach out to someone in the Med Master's Department. They are very nice and will be able to tell you which one would be the best choice for you. I personally didn't apply to both.

Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions!
Your response was so thorough and informative, thank you so much! You seem to have loved your experience so far, which makes me super excited about EVMS. It’s my top choice SMP for sure. Do people in the 2 year program typically apply to medical school after their first year in the Med Masters? Although I’d be willing to do the 2 year program, not sure if I would be a great fit since I would want to apply this cycle and will be retaking the MCAT in April (and if all goes well I wouldn’t need to study for it again). I am leaning towards the 1 year program and really hope I can get in and experience all the things you described above. Living in Norfolk sounds lovely to me. Thank you again for your time and help!
 
Your response was so thorough and informative, thank you so much! You seem to have loved your experience so far, which makes me super excited about EVMS. It’s my top choice SMP for sure. Do people in the 2 year program typically apply to medical school after their first year in the Med Masters? Although I’d be willing to do the 2 year program, not sure if I would be a great fit since I would want to apply this cycle and will be retaking the MCAT in April (and if all goes well I wouldn’t need to study for it again). I am leaning towards the 1 year program and really hope I can get in and experience all the things you described above. Living in Norfolk sounds lovely to me. Thank you again for your time and help!
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Your response was so thorough and informative, thank you so much! You seem to have loved your experience so far, which makes me super excited about EVMS. It’s my top choice SMP for sure. Do people in the 2 year program typically apply to medical school after their first year in the Med Masters? Although I’d be willing to do the 2 year program, not sure if I would be a great fit since I would want to apply this cycle and will be retaking the MCAT in April (and if all goes well I wouldn’t need to study for it again). I am leaning towards the 1 year program and really hope I can get in and experience all the things you described above. Living in Norfolk sounds lovely to me. Thank you again for your time and help!
No problem! People in the 2 year program apply between their first and second year of the program. Best of luck with your application!
 
No problem! People in the 2 year program apply between their first and second year of the program. Best of luck with your application!

Is it possible for you to speak about the attrition rate in the 1 and 2-year program?
 
Is it possible for you to speak about the attrition rate in the 1 and 2-year program?
Hi! Great question. I personally don’t know any statistics on the attrition rate. I would ask the Med Master’s Faculty about that.
 
Is it possible for you to speak about the attrition rate in the 1 and 2-year program?
I don’t have any official statistics but from what I saw during my 1 year Med master program (5 yrs ago)only about 10-15% “failed out”. Most of these withdrew in the first few weeks of the program due to simply not being able to keep up or finding out they really didn’t want medicine or didn’t want it enough to do all the work to get in. Another small group withdrew at the end of the 1st semester when it became clear that the grades they were getting wouldn’t be good enough to get them into medical school so they withdrew and didn’t have to pay the second semesters tuition.

I too recommend reaching out to the Med master program to get official statistics.
 
I don’t have any official statistics but from what I saw during my 1 year Med master program (5 yrs ago)only about 10-15% “failed out”. Most of these withdrew in the first few weeks of the program due to simply not being able to keep up or finding out they really didn’t want medicine or didn’t want it enough to do all the work to get in. Another small group withdrew at the end of the 1st semester when it became clear that the grades they were getting wouldn’t be good enough to get them into medical school so they withdrew and didn’t have to pay the second semesters tuition.

I too recommend reaching out to the Med master program to get official statistics.

How true is it that ~30 slots in the EVMS MS1 class are saved yearly for MM students? I have a lot of roots in the area and am really trying to stay in Norfolk if I can.
 
No problem! People in the 2 year program apply between their first and second year of the program. Best of luck with your application!
Did any of your classmates in the 2 year program opt out of the MCAT preparation course because they were happy with their score? Is it a requirement for the 2 year students to do MCAT prep? Thanks in advance!
 
Did any of your classmates in the 2 year program opt out of the MCAT preparation course because they were happy with their score? Is it a requirement for the 2 year students to do MCAT prep? Thanks in advance!
I know of one classmate who didn’t have to retake the MCAT and was able to opt out of the Kaplan prep course. From my understanding, if your score is below a 503 you are required to retake it.
 
I don’t have any official statistics but from what I saw during my 1 year Med master program (5 yrs ago)only about 10-15% “failed out”. Most of these withdrew in the first few weeks of the program due to simply not being able to keep up or finding out they really didn’t want medicine or didn’t want it enough to do all the work to get in. Another small group withdrew at the end of the 1st semester when it became clear that the grades they were getting wouldn’t be good enough to get them into medical school so they withdrew and didn’t have to pay the second semesters tuition.

I too recommend reaching out to the Med master program to get official statistics.
I think thats the same trend this year. I am in the 1 year MM and it seems like at least 5-10 people dropped or took leave of absence in the fall. Basing that off the emails we received about our exam date.
 
How true is it that ~30 slots in the EVMS MS1 class are saved yearly for MM students? I have a lot of roots in the area and am really trying to stay in Norfolk if I can.
Very very true. They literally have the spots reserved and only go to Med master applicants. While I think the specific number changes year to year it’s always at or near 50% of the class.
 
Very very true. They literally have the spots reserved and only go to Med master applicants. While I think the specific number changes year to year it’s always at or near 50% of the class.

What do you think are the most important factors they consider for students who want to matriculate to EVMS from their MM program? uGPA? gGPA? MCAT? ECs?
 
What do you think are the most important factors they consider for students who want to matriculate to EVMS from their MM program? uGPA? gGPA? MCAT? ECs?
from what my advisor has told me, the most important factor is GPA in MM. If it comes down to two applicants then they look at MCAT score. My advisor really hammered that performance academically is more important than E.C.
 
What do you think are the most important factors they consider for students who want to matriculate to EVMS from their MM program? uGPA? gGPA? MCAT? ECs?

from what my advisor has told me, the most important factor is GPA in MM. If it comes down to two applicants then they look at MCAT score. My advisor really hammered that performance academically is more important than E.C.

what sixspeed said is exactly what my experience was the number 1 factor is your work done in the program in fact I heard from program director that she would sit in on these meetings and gently remind ppl that they need to focus on our effort and accomplishments here at evms over past gpa/mcat/ etc.

Second most important thing is not pissing ppl off in the program I know of only one person who this happened to and it was very apparent to everyone but that person that they were going over the line when it came to trying to argue against exam questions and getting just one more point.

After these two factors then the tie breaker is things like mcat, past experiences and ugpa but over these things don’t matter too much unless you have some really unique experiences but even they aren’t as important as your performance in the Med master program.
 
Hi again, has it taken anyone longer than 5 weeks to hear a decision? I'm getting worried since most people said they heard back within 2-3 weeks from their file being complete.
 
Hi, it is really so nice to hear from a graduate! I recently got into the two year program and I was wondering if you could elaborate on the quality of advising that you received. I went to a large undergrad and never really felt like I was guided appropriately through the premed battle lol. Would you say that the advisors were helpful when going through the med school application process?
I'm biased but I think the advising is helpful 😉 Throughout the entire first year of the program you meet with the premed advisor to talk all about the application process in depth. We go over every piece of it in detail and you can always meet one on one as well. Most students feel very prepared going into the application itself.
 
Did any of your classmates in the 2 year program opt out of the MCAT preparation course because they were happy with their score? Is it a requirement for the 2 year students to do MCAT prep? Thanks in advance!
Yes...if you are happy with your MCAT score it is possible to opt out. We need to know before the program starts though, otherwise you'll still get charged for the class.
 
Very very true. They literally have the spots reserved and only go to Med master applicants. While I think the specific number changes year to year it’s always at or near 50% of the class.
Not exactly how it works, but at the end of the day around 50% usually stay at EVMS. 🙂
 
Hi all. I'm jumping in here late trying to answer some questions, but if you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask! Between myself & our current & former students we can get you steered in the right direction 🙂
 
Hi again, has it taken anyone longer than 5 weeks to hear a decision? I'm getting worried since most people said they heard back within 2-3 weeks from their file being compl

Hi, it is really so nice to hear from a graduate! I recently got into the two year program and I was wondering if you could elaborate on the quality of advising that you received. I went to a large undergrad and never really felt like I was guided appropriately through the premed battle lol. Would you say that the advisors were helpful when going through the med school application process?
I wasn't guided well during my undergrad studies either. There is a night and day difference between then and now. We get emails when there's an open house so we can attend it virtually and ask questions etc. Our advisor is what you make of it. You can choose to talk to them once a semester or talk to them several times a semester. I personally check in after the first exam and final exam of each class. For advisement in regards to primary and secondary application its been very helpful. I've submitted a few secondaries for review and received feedback within a day or 2 at most! It really polished up my paper in a way I couldnt see (not a strong writer lol). They also help you select schools that are realistic. Instead of applying to 25+ schools and dishing out a fortune AND spreading yourself thin doing dozens of secondaries, you make a list, its checked, and ranked as doable or reach. This helps you shorten the list to a few schools that you have a chance at and can write stronger secondaries for. None of these things were presented to me in undergrad lol

Ultimately I do feel what ever you performance was in the past, this program really does give you an opportunity to prove your worth and in a way, expunges lack luster performances in undergrad. It certainly is not easy though, nor should it be. I give EVMS advising an A.

Hope this helps!
 
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Hi all. I'm jumping in here late trying to answer some questions, but if you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask! Between myself & our current & former students we can get you steered in the right direction 🙂
Hi,
What are the class size for the two years MMs program? And how do you feel about the MCAT preparation class?
 
On average how many people start the program and on average how many people end up completing the program. (For the 1-year).
It varies year to year honestly. We usually have a couple of students who take leaves of absence to return the following year for various reasons. Occasionally someone will decide medicine isn't actually for them. We stay pretty on top of your grades so if it looks like you might be in trouble academically we intervene early to try and avoid you digging yourself into a hole GPA wise. 🙂
 
Hi,
What are the class size for the two years MMs program? And how do you feel about the MCAT preparation class?
The two year class is usually between 15-20 students each year. The MCAT prep is through Kaplan, but we also offer UWorld for 90 days, plus all the Kaplan & AAMC exams. Some students also use other test prep exams, but that would be on your own dime. The class runs for half of the spring semester, then you have the second half to focus on practice exams and q banks. It's seemed to work out well vs having the Kaplan class drawn out through the whole semester. Our students usually take the exam in May or June to give themselves a break before classes in August and to have time to get their application in early enough.

ETA: We typically see at least a 20 percentile point increase in scores every year from entering MCAT score to retaking it in the summer!
 
How strong is the linkage here? Around what percent of the class ends up matriculating into EVMS medical school?
 
How strong is the linkage here? Around what percent of the class ends up matriculating into EVMS medical school?
Historically around half of the graduating class stays at EVMS. The actual number varies every year depending on the class size. Another 20ish percent usually goes on to another MD or DO school. Typically the year following graduation we have another 10-20% that gets in as well.
 
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