ex-Navy and med school

[RomanTaylor]

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You made the point that you are sick of seeing Veterans using their status to their advantage. This comes off very abrasive, especially from someone who is not a Veteran. You made the case that you "mentor" and speak with veterans often, as if this insight somehow warrants your opinion right. Point to any ad hominem attack I have made. I am telling you truths that are relevant to this thread. If you can not defend your point, by all means, leave.

Well now, seeing how you called me out.

1) Yes, I am sick of seeing veterans use their status as an excuse for not performing. I have seen it many MANY times. Are you telling me that you do not have veteran friends or acquiescence that complained that they are not getting a fair shake because "professor X has a grudge against vets" or "he should go easier on me because I have PTSD (even though they have never experienced anything close to combat)?" I doubt it. But even so, that is a moot point. I have seen what I have seen, and heard what I have heard with my own eyes and ears. You cannot disprove someone's observation, because I, throughout my argument, said that it was MY experience.

2) I am a service member, and have been one for 6 years. I have every right to make comments about veterans.

3) Yes, mentoring and tutoring the very people that I am commenting on gives me justification for my statement. VERY much so. I don't see how you can say it does not. Does not teachers have a viewpoint strong enough to make comments on students? Do not park rangers have a viewpoint strong enough to make comments on the foliage and wildlife of their parks? And opinions are opinions, I wasn't looking for a check in the right or wrong box.

4) No, not seeing truth, only self-righteous rebukes.

5) Lol, and I think I made my points quite clearly. And abrasive? Yes. I can see that. But seeing how different people have different levels of tolerance, it is impossible to not be abrasive to everyone. You seem very sensitive, therefore it comes off to YOU as overly abrasive.

 

[HM3]

1..I have not. Your experience is an n=1. The experience of many vets here and the others posting on this thread is n>1.

2. You're not a Veteran, you're active duty. Need I tell you the difference?

3. I'd say a bad teacher is going to comment negatively towards their students. I'm not at all sensitive, but someone who has changed the Veterans Office at a school and an MS1 I find it my duty to correct matters negatively effecting Veterans interested in Medicine.

 

[RomanTaylor]

1..I have not. Your experience is an n=1. The experience of many vets here and the others posting on this thread is n>1.

2. You're not a Veteran, you're active duty. Need I tell you the difference?

3. I'd say a bad teacher is going to comment negatively towards their students. I'm not at all sensitive, but someone who has changed the Veterans Office at a school and an MS1 I find it my duty to correct matters negatively effecting Veterans interested in Medicine.

1) (sigh) You're deluded. And if I have, again, seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears, first person, veterans that have fail because of reasons that I have stated, then those are valid observations.

2) ...You didn't read anything I said, did you.

3) You are not the holy patron of Veterans. Get off of it. Congrats on your matriculation, but your view of veteran affairs is your experience and your opinion. And no need to protect veterans from lil ole me. I will be one in a month's time, and, again, I am a corpsman that has seen combat, saved lives, lost buddies, led, followed, swabbed, and propped my feet up. I am not the enemy and we are on the same side. I work, voluntarily (not VA work study) in my Veteran Affairs office. Again, get off of it.

 

[GunnerBGone]

don't anticipate my science courses being much better than a 3.0. For obvious reasons, I haven't taken a chem or bio course for six years, and the courses at college are based on the assumption of a basic knowledge/familiarity, which is all old stuff for me.

There's your n=1.



You want him in charge of your family's health, when he's unwilling to strive for excellence in freshman biology? Nothing abrasive or cynical about that? No problem.

You think it's bad to be "uptight" with a 3.85 ? Or because I hurt someone's feelings? It hurts a lot less than liver disease from a doc that can't understand medication interaction, because he didnt take orgo seriously.

Thats my point. And I'm done debating it.
I'll hug you and be happy-go-lucky all day long, and apologize for hurt feelings, if you prove yourself differently and try your best. I can also keep my mouth shut, and keep a positive attitude while pandering you and picking up your slack. I'm fairly used to it, by now.
Just thought I'd open up here a little, and see who else agrees with me.
My sincerest apologies for interupting your discussion.

 

[HM3]

RT..nice job replying with nothing in support of your point. But if you want to digress, fine. It's ok to have an opinion, albeit wrong. You're going to find yourself in culture shock in a month. I've been there....Corpsman, savin lives, sleeping in dirt, crapping roses, all that good stuff. Its a different game here....completely.


Gunner, believe me. Hyperbole is not going to get you anywhere in Medicine. If you really want to reach someone, you have to be honest.

 

[RomanTaylor]

Don't worry about me...I'll be fine.

And I don't know how more many ways I can express my point. It's ok if you leave unimpressed.

 

[Eiot]

****in A, gents.