Factors in determining what medshcool to attend

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Hi Everyone:

I'll be matriculating to med school next year and was trying to make a decision as to where to go.

Right now, I'm basing a great deal of my decision on geography and was wondering if those of you that are already in med school could give me some advise as to what you felt/feel is important in determining what medical school one should attend.

Also, if anyone has news about Georgetown...good or bad...I'd love to hear it.

Thanks.
 
hello rollcall-

Have you interviewed at Georgetown already?? If so, what did you like/dislike about it? I'm coming in mid jan and am pretty excited for the DC area....from everything everyone is saying, gtown seems to have subpar facilities but the match list for residency seems to be amazing there for competitive residencies, ie. ortho
 
By the way, Rollcall, what schools are you choosing from??
 
Originally posted by rollcall
Hi Everyone:

I'll be matriculating to med school next year and was trying to make a decision as to where to go.

Right now, I'm basing a great deal of my decision on geography and was wondering if those of you that are already in med school could give me some advise as to what you felt/feel is important in determining what medical school one should attend.

Also, if anyone has news about Georgetown...good or bad...I'd love to hear it.

Thanks.

As far as deciding on school here are factors I looked at.

1. Location
2. Reputation of School (this is hard to judge)
3. Financial Aid

For location, I ended up deciding that something close to home is good (my parents can bring me food). This would have been outweighed by the opportunity to a top 10 school. I ended up with schools that were all about the same, so the tiebreaker was the financial aid. Most schools didn't give anything as far as grants. I ended up at the only school to give me a decent financial aid package.
 
I agree with oldy. One of the things that I learned is that where you go to school is the place that you are most likely to get the best residencies, so if you want to practice in a certain area, it sure does help if you go to school in that area. I looked at USC's match list, and it was about 90% california, and about 50% USC hospitals (not so sure about the numbers) I knew I wanted to end up in LA, so USC was easily the best choice for me.
 
Originally posted by rollcall

Also, if anyone has news about Georgetown...good or bad...I'd love to hear it.

My story from applying to Georgetown last year. It's a cut and paste from two different posts, so it might now flow totally:

I'm a little bit pissed right now. I hate Georgetown. I'm nominating them for the worst admissions committee in the nation.

I got the invite for an interview a month ago and it told me I had to scedual (or some spelling) by october 1st and interview by the 21st. We'll I teach a class in California every monday, wednesday and friday and there is no way that I could have flown out to washington DC and back in time to interview and make my class. I called them up Sept 30th and told them this, and I would have to interview in december. They told me I had to write a letter to the dean and exzplain my problem and he might consider letting me have an extension. I think this is bull****, but I'll do it later in the month.
Today I find out that one friday class is canceled in late october. Since I have nothing better to do, I try calling up Georgetown to see if I can get an interview then. The tell me that since I never wrote a letter to the dean, there is no way they will ever let me interview. I'm thinking this is complete BS. By the time I can finish the letter and the dean reviews it and all the other stuff there is no way I will be able to get a flight to Washington DC. So now I probably never will be able to interview at Georgetown because of their F***d up admission policies. I'm not normally a vengful person, but if I remember this next June or so I'm going to try and encourage people (at least on the west coast) not even to waste the 150$ to apply to GT.

Thanks for reading my post. I feel a little bit better now.



Addendum to the story, that I didn't add because I didn't want anybody to find out I did this while I was still a pre-med student and applying.

Once I was told I was rejected because I hadn't written the letter (Same phone call), I asked to talk to someone higher up. Finally I got to the person who told me that I was never going to get an interview because I didn't send in the letter and there was nothing I could do about it. Once I was sure he wasn't just the secretary (I think he was the dean), I proceeded to cuss him out. It felt good.
 
One thing that I forgot to add that I have read others mention. Do everything early.

As an example here's what I did.

August '00 Take MCATs
December '00 Request LORs
February '01 All LORs are in
May '01 Committee Letter completed
July '01 AMCAS submitted
July '01 Secondaries start to come in (as well as rejection letters)
August '01 First interview offer comes in
Sept '01 first interview
October '01 first acceptance

The rest of the year was very laid back.

The key to this part of the process is to do things early, so that you have time to do it well.
 
Originally posted by oldman
One thing that I forgot to add that I have read others mention. Do everything early.

As an example here's what I did.

August '00 Take MCATs
December '00 Request LORs
February '01 All LORs are in
May '01 Committee Letter completed
July '01 AMCAS submitted
July '01 Secondaries start to come in (as well as rejection letters)
August '01 First interview offer comes in
Sept '01 first interview
October '01 first acceptance

The rest of the year was very laid back.

The key to this part of the process is to do things early, so that you have time to do it well.
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Sounds exactly like my guide, but in cliff note form. Great minds....
 
the most important thing is to go to the place where you think you will be happy
 
Here are some factors other than Location, Reputation, and Cost, which as others said are the top factors for many applicants (including myself when I applied).

-curriculum format: there are several types of curricula as follows:
1)subject blocks: take one class at a time (e.g UMAB, UTMB)
2)integrated blocks: take several courses relevant to the same subject. For example, in Tufts' Infectious Diseases block during second year, we take Microbiology, Pharmacology of ID (antibiotics, anti-virals, etc.), and Pathophysiology of ID for 3 weeks then have 3 exams at the end of the block
3) organ-system blocks: students learn the anatomy, physiology, pathology, and pharmacology of each organ system all at once. I believe UCSF uses this system and second-year students at TUSM will be getting a taste of it next semester
4) PBL-students learn via cases in small groups rather than in lectures. Pitt, Harvard, and Rochester use this system, as does Drexel for students on a certain learning track.
5) traditional curriculum: students may take many non-integrated classes all at once, with lectures often running into the late afternoon. May be integrated with weekly PBL groups and small groups. This was Tufts' curriculum last year and I hated the long hours of lecture and lab during second semester, but for some people this type of curriculum works well.


-grading system: options are:
A/B/C/D/F- used by U Maryland, UF, and others I don't know
H/HP/P/F-a modified letter grade system (in disguise) used by NYMC, PSU, MCV/VCU
H/P/F-e.g Tufts, SLU, however, many schools change to H/HP/P/F during 3rd and 4th years
P/F-most of UC schools, USC, U Conn, Yale, Columbia, Harvard. oft. changes for 3rd/4th year.
grading systems have also been discussed ad nauseum on SDN, and each type of system has advantages and disadvantages. If you agree with the philosophy "P=M.D." for the first 2 years, then grades used by a school may be of particular interest to you.

-amount of clinical exposure during first 2 years:
I personally love being at a school that makes a huge effort to get students working with real patients during the pre-clinical period. There are a number of schools where students see only standardized patients (actors) like USUHS before going out on the wards in 3rd year (I have a friend there who can verify this). try to find out as much as you can from sources other than SDN if you are seriously considering attending a given school.

-general environment at the school:
are a number of social events scheduled throughout the year? do students seem to get along with each other and cooperate in the sharing of information via e-mail, handouts, etc.? does the administration show an interest in the school and the students and open its doors? just a few things to think about.. also, you may want to find out if people of your gender, marital status, race, sexual orientation, etc. are generally treated respectfully or if serious problems have arisen in the past.

-facilities:
does the school have the computer and library facilities necessary to accomodate med student needs? are the lecture halls reasonably clean, pleasant, and new? is the anatomy lab well-ventilated? how many people to a cadaver (some schools are outrageous with >10 ppl/cadaver)? is the school affiliated with reputable, clean hospitals with high standards for patient care? are the majority of affiliated hospitals reasonably accessible by public transportation or car?

hope this is of some help, I have talked for too long. good luck!
 
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