Failed Orgo twice

[fre3play]

I failed Organic Chemistry twice before getting an A for the third time. Would this make me ineligible for MD schools?

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[Catalystik]

Others have reported MD acceptances despite a few Fs on their transcripts. Those alone would not make you "ineligible."

 

[CollegeGirl94]

I failed Organic Chemistry twice before getting an A for the third time. Would this make me ineligible for MD schools?

I've never seen any requirements stating that it would make someone ineligible.
I just have a question as I got a bad grade and will have to retake it next year. How did you do it? That's quite an impressive leap.

 

[fre3play]

I've never seen any requirements stating that it would make someone ineligible.
I just have a question as I got a bad grade and will have to retake it next year. How did you do it? That's quite an impressive leap.

I just sat down and learned the concepts. I never gave much time to studying and almost always made no time outside of class to sit down and absorb the material. Its all about work ethic. If you want something, you can achieve it.

 

[fre3play]

Others have reported MD acceptances despite a few Fs on their transcripts. Those alone would not make you "ineligible."

A couple of Fs is different than my case. I failed twice in the same course. In GPA terms, my Organic Chemistry GPA comes out to 0+0+4/3= 1.33 and last time I checked, a minimum of 2.0 was required in all the pre-reqs.

 

[Catalystik]

I agree that failing OChem twice looks bad, but I'm sure you have a good story to tell about that (or will come up with one) for an essay about "Challenges overcome". Besides getting the A, you can further redeem the bad impression you've left by acing OChem II and/or Biochem on the first try, as well as some upper-level Bio.

Schools won't average three efforts to pass a class, thus negating the 4.0 eventually earned (it would take too much work on their part, anyway). The intent of stating a minimum grade is so you have a guideline for retaking classes you didn't sufficiently master.

The point where one would be screened out automatically (via computer-driven cutoffs) would be the overall BCPM GPA or cGPA. This gives one a chance to washout the negative effect of some bad grades with a sea of A grades. Stats-wise, what would make you ineligible for MD schools would be failing to demonstrate a steep consistent upward grade trend, having GPAs below those cutpoints (typically 3.0 for less-selective institutions, but some schools go lower), and not having a strong enough MCAT score to compensate and prove you "got it" so that adcomms are reassured you will thrive in their program.

In WAMC you'll read about folks who got a second bachelors degree, eventually ending up with 200+ undergrad credits, in order to redeem a poor academic record. Others go the SMP (Special Masters Program) route if they have the cash. Or you can apply to AACOMAS DO schools which have a grade forgiveness policy and save time and money.

 

[gumdrops]

A couple of Fs is different than my case. I failed twice in the same course. In GPA terms, my Organic Chemistry GPA comes out to 0+0+4/3= 1.33 and last time I checked, a minimum of 2.0 was required in all the pre-reqs.

It's not going to matter. I know folks who failed several pre-reqs twice, took some time off and killed it in their post-bacc. Now they're at US MD schools. You're fine as long as you improve and do well on the MCAT. Good luck!

 

[knv2u]

I failed Organic Chemistry twice before getting an A for the third time. Would this make me ineligible for MD schools?

I'm not being a jerk, but wasn't this already answered in another thread created by you? I am asking because I want to make sure that I am not losing it!

 

[bambam92]

It definitely doesn't rule you out, but I think some schools would pass you over. I can't imagine the hit that those two F's had to your BCPM GPA btw. Where is it at now? And its great you were able to redeem yourself by getting the A, but make sure you get A's in ochem II and biochem etc as poster above said. This will show you have changed your ways, because honestly taking a class three times to pass might just indicate that you learned it from being exposed to material over and over. But by going into a more advanced class and getting an A first go around will show you have changed. GL

 

[deleted613943]

I'm kind of in the same boat. I just learned that I failed orgo I twice. Literally failed. I'm not sure if I should take it at a community college again or attempt to get permission from the biology chair and chemistry chair to take the class a third time. If I take it a third time, my gpa gets replaced with the highest mark. My cumulative gpa is 2.7. I've done quite well in my other prereqs (considering applying for med school or optometry school). Orgo is really the only black mark on my record. Do I still have a chance? What should I do?

 

[moisne]

I'm kind of in the same boat. I just learned that I failed orgo I twice. Literally failed. I'm not sure if I should take it at a community college again or attempt to get permission from the biology chair and chemistry chair to take the class a third time. If I take it a third time, my gpa gets replaced with the highest mark. My cumulative gpa is 2.7. I've done quite well in my other prereqs (considering applying for med school or optometry school). Orgo is really the only black mark on my record. Do I still have a chance? What should I do?

Keep I'm mind just because your school does grade replacement, AMCAs does not