failing in PBL system...

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NinaGucci

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Hello everyone,
I have no idea why i am writing this post...but i think i just felt like i had to express what i feel with no expectations that the world would change...
I'm a second year Med student and i have to retake my 2nd year although i havent failed any exams...i feel devastated as, like every med student, i have always been an excellent student in the past and i have worked like crazy...
I have always been the logical type of person and knowing that i have to retake this year without knowing what were my mistakes (as our Med school's policy doest let us have access to corrections of the examinations with the right answers)...having no answers and no way to find out about the correct answers just frustrates me even more....knowing that everyone expects that i'll do much better next year puts much more pressure on me as i still don't know what was wrong and i'll certainly make the same mistakes unconsciousely.
I dont know if i want to hear people who had to retake a year too in med school, or if i want to hear words to comfort my frustrations and depression...words that we all learnt in our psychiatry classes...but what i know is i want to have answers..i want to have some1 who tells me, look u screwed it in this...u're an idiot and this is the correct way to answer those exam questions and to get a damn A! i know we dont study for the exams, we study to be good doctors, and i have always had good comments from my professors on the future good doctor part but never had satisfying NUMBERS in my exam sheets so logicaly, my prob is purely in the exams side....
Does anyone have to study by PBL (or APP in french)? i hate the fact that u dont know what u need for the exams..even if u have a list of objectives..they're not even close to the exam material...
Does anyone know if there are some people who give private tutoring for Med students in Montreal or Sherbrooke? i was so surprised to see online that in France hundreds of 2nd and 3rd year med students give private classes to other med students and that we dont have this system in our country...everyone would tell u that everything is gonna be fine at ur med school..but no, that is not right...everyone only cares about himself and i havent noticed any compassion between students...everyone pretending to be too busy although this stupide PBL system indirectly obliges us to work with other students if we want to guess what's gonna come up in the exams as we dont have any lecture notes....
Other people would think, well u cant adapt to the system! well HELLO! we had to adapt to different environements (different university degrees or professional environ, maybe in different countries) and i hate the idea that im paying tremendous fees for my education and having my professors to come to class max 6hours a week to listen to our group discussions! and to say, oh yeah, u explained well!!! i did my part of the study and the sacrifices...etc...so where is my professor's part of TEACHING! of helping those who apparently are in difficulties! if med school is not the place to help us, then where are we supposed to get help?...
some people would agree with me, others wont, but the point is, i am not the only person suffering from this PBL system...and i feel like there is some kind of commercialisation of this system that costs much less money/time investiments to med schools....i feel like there is some brain washing of students who pretend or maybe are convincted that it is a great system!
I had to do PBL in my engineering degree only after 2years and a half of studying! but when i was studying the basics, it was in a lecture theatre, with lecture notes, with exercices and corrections, practice, practice, practice! then when we understood the basics, we pass on to project designs and we did that as PBL and group projects! but to start from year 1 as PBL is just a disaster....a disaster that's making me depressed now as i am 25 and i sacrificed many things on the personal, financial, emotional level for my dream and im getting a negative result and no way to improve my performance....
If anyone understands my emotional agony...tell me your thoughts please...if anyone has a practical solution to this prob, except telling me to be strong and forget this and to move on..please speak up.
Thanks

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Your post shows one of the biggest flaw with PBL and is pretty much correct.

You correctly point out that there a two types of studying to do: one is to learn to be a doctor and the other is studying for the exams.

Knowing what to retain for the exam is pretty much an innate ability, it just comes naturally for some people. This is why faculties have to do a much better job at defining what to study. In the end, you pretty much need to know everything...

We relied heavily on the questions banks for the preclinical years. That pretty much garanteed you a passing grade. Then you need to read and retain as much as you can and hope there aren't too many obscure questions.

I figured that in PBL you have to ask for the teacher's help. They won't come to you. That's another flaw. I'm sure there is academic help available trough students services. But again, you need to seek help yourself.

You raise a very valid point that there ought to be mentoring among students. I used to do it in my PBL groups, giving explications before or after. Again, you need to ask.

It's also a pain not to be able to see our copies after the exams. In your case it would be beneficial as it would show you where you need to improve.

best of luck
 
Nekrotik,
Please check your personal messages.

Merci beaucoup.
 
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