fellowship

[zpatel84]

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this may be a dumb question, but do doctors completing their fellowship still get only a resident's salary?

 

[P Diddy]

this may be a dumb question, but do doctors completing their fellowship still get only a resident's salary?

there is no dumb question, daniel-san.

fellows get paid on a PGY level. so a first year fellow would receive a PGY-4 salary which is incrementally larger than the PGY-3 salary. How much larger depends upon the institution.

when I interviewed at Harbor-UCLA for Cards, a first year fellow told me he was making low 30s for the year since the residents get paid by the county and the county shafts them. luckily for those matching there the pay scale changed because the fellowship director complained, so they'll be in mid-40s to start. the aforementioned fellow got a 150% pay raise! that's actually sad. what's sadder is that the endocrinology fellows still get paid low 30s. can you say moonlighting, dude? I knew you could.

at my hospital, 3rd year residents make~ 50K, so I assume first year fellows would make ~52K. since I'm nice I'm hoping they'll give me 55K and unlimited use of the fellowship Porsche.

 

[Winged Scapula]

It varies widely from hospital to hospital but as noted above, is on a graded pay scale. That said, if you choose a different hospital to do fellowship at, you can make a substantial change - my BF was paid approx $7K less a year during fellowship than during residency and living in a much more expensive city. I'm looking at fellowships in So Cal and am appalled at the pay cut (and higher cost of living) I'll have to suffer.

 

[Blade28]

Yeah...it IS SoCal, after all. 🙂

 

[Retinamark]

I'm not sure about other specialties, but for Retinal Surgery fellowships, fellows get screwed & paid at PGY-1.
There are only a few programs do the right thing and pay PGY-5.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Yeah...it IS SoCal, after all. 🙂

true...I suppose I should be glad I'll be paid at all to compensate for the benefit of being back home, with no snow, humidity, etc.! 😉

 

[Blade28]

You're from there?

 

[sdnetrocks]

I heard that fellowship programs that really need people will pay much more. The specific example that I heard is $80k/yr for peds nephrology (somewhere in Texas, I think).

 

[nev]

I've heard that Baylor in Texas pays 60K for pain management fellows.
Maybe everything is bigger in Texas!

 

[edfig99]

fellowship pay depends on who the sponsor (funder) of the fellowship is, and the institutional commitment (i.e. does the institution kick in any money or is it grants) to the fellowship.

here at columbia presbyterian, up until a couple of years ago, fellows were hired by columbia university (not presbyterian hospital) so they were only getting paid 30K or so (less than PGY-1; residents are hospital employees here) and had no benefits other than departmentally paid health insurance for self (not family). a few years ago, the fellowships were transferred to newyork-presbyterian hospital and now they get paid on the hospital's PGY scale, with a cut occurring at the pgy-7 level. they are entitled to full hospital employee benefits as well.

i did a faculty development fellowship which was administered by columbia university which was funded on a federal grant, so i would have only gotten paid $30K or so, but the hospital kicked in a portion of my salary in exchange for clinical time and that brought me up to the appropriate pgy4 and pgy5 level.

so it all depends on where the source of funding comes from, and what the local insitutional rules are.