First semester of PT school. Having second thoughts..

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I'm in a DPT program down in Florida and it hasn't really met my expectations as a school. I'm doing well in the program, but just realized how soul crushing my debt will be after graduation. Before entering the program, I didn't have a realistic expectation of how much a PT could draw in salary but it is not close to my 100,000 dollars in loans. I'm not really sure what to do because I quit my government job to come down here to chase dreams, but I'm learning things about PT (companies focusing on productivity= compromising patient treatment, my school doesn't seem like it prepares students well for clinicals, 2nd and 3rd year students will commonly tell me "at least you'll get a degree).

I'm thinking of pursuing a masters degree in something else, but i'm not really sure what...

Has anyone felt a similar way after realizing that the debt, and maybe the profession, isn't what you had thought it to be?

Any advice would be appreciated 🙂

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I wouldn't spend anything, let alone 100k to buy unhappiness. What factors prompted you to choose PT as a career and what are you disliking about it? Is it just your school? Or a change of heart?
 
Have you thought about working for hospitals after you graduate? I think (at least, from what I have seen myself) that they'd put less emphasis on productivity. Do some PRN gigs on weekends, live cheaply, and you can probably chip away at your debt quickly.

Or become a PT in the military and you should be able to get part of your debt forgiven.

As for clinicals, I think you get out of it what you put into it. You don't need an enormous amount of preparation to go into your first clinical. And if you're eager to learn, I'm sure most CIs will be happy to share their knowledge and experience.
 
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I wouldn't spend anything, let alone 100k to buy unhappiness. What factors prompted you to choose PT as a career and what are you disliking about it? Is it just your school? Or a change of heart?

I chose physical therapy because, at the time, I was working in front of a computer locked in a cubicle. I made great money, but it felt purposeless. At the time, anything seemed better and working with one on one with patients seemed exciting and satisfying. I think that it is a combination of being disappointed by the career and school. There are a few things that make me feel uneasy:

1) Outpatient orthopedics, what I saw myself doing before starting the program, seems hellaciously boring to me for whatever reason. I'm going to go observe in Acute and hopefully that'll be more interesting.

2) My school pairs us with undergraduate athletic training and exercise science students for the first two semesters of anatomy. We are essentially paying three times the cost, for the exact same class. Our school also uses PBL which is fine, but they seem like they rely on it too heavy as a result of having such a small staff. Oh yeah, basically the same four professors for the entire program- which could be good or bad.

3) Money. I looked at the tuition of 44k for the program and thought, "Not bad at all, I can pay this off in a few years." Then I realized I would have an additional 50k in loans from living expenses(I have a roommate, reduced my cellphone bill, and live within my means). Having 100k of loans scares me ****l*ss. I have no desire to be 'rich', but I want to live comfortably and be able to support family members.

4) I think I will enjoy working as a PT for awhile, but I could see myself getting bored and not being able to switch professions because of the aforementioned debt.

5) To be honest, I don't feel as enthusiastic as other classmates. I'm sure you've seen, or maybe you're one of these, people know that PT is their soulmate and no loan, crap school, etc would slow them down.

6) I'm a sociable person, but I don't know if I'm the kind of person who will enjoy the extended amounts of patient interaction that therapist encounter everyday. I think I'm suited more for shortened bursts of patient interaction (i.e. diagnosing) that PAs or DOs have.


Sorry if that was hard to read, I'm just a little down from all of this. My undergraduate was exercise science so I thought it was a natural fit. I am realizing this degree is pretty worthless by itself, so I'm trying to consider what other options I have and have thought of doing bio engineering. I like healthcare, but I feel medicine would be a more natural fit but I've already got a semester of PT school down, and it would take me at least 2 years to start a medical program(pa).
 
Have you thought about working for hospitals after you graduate? I think (at least, from what I have seen myself) that they'd put less emphasis on productivity. Do some PRN gigs on weekends, live cheaply, and you can probably chip away at your debt quickly.

Or become a PT in the military and you should be able to get part of your debt forgiven.

As for clinicals, I think you get out of it what you put into it. You don't need an enormous amount of preparation to go into your first clinical. And if you're eager to learn, I'm sure most CIs will be happy to share their knowledge and experience.

Thanks for your input. I have thought about hospitals, and joining the military after graduation. Unlike our healthcare professions in the military, therapist have no bonuses/perks for joining. No loan repayment, no sign on bonuses, etc. The Airforce and Navy are at capacity for PTs so they don't have any reason to offer you more than a job. In comparison, nurses & PAs & dentists all get large amounts of tuition repayment. In fact, I got into OT school and they offered to pay a year of my school while I was being paid on salary during the program. No such deal for being a PT.
 
I chose physical therapy because, at the time, I was working in front of a computer locked in a cubicle. I made great money, but it felt purposeless. At the time, anything seemed better and working with one on one with patients seemed exciting and satisfying. I think that it is a combination of being disappointed by the career and school. There are a few things that make me feel uneasy:

1) Outpatient orthopedics, what I saw myself doing before starting the program, seems hellaciously boring to me for whatever reason. I'm going to go observe in Acute and hopefully that'll be more interesting.

Are you basing this only on your previous observation, or on the coursework you have had thus far in your academic preparation? If it's observation, find a better PT to observe. I'd recommend a board certifed PT in orthopaedics or sports. If it's based on your coursework, remember, you've had very little didactice preparation as of yet, and the more dry aspects of the basic sciences get far more interesting when you get to apply them in the clinic.

2) My school pairs us with undergraduate athletic training and exercise science students for the first two semesters of anatomy. We are essentially paying three times the cost, for the exact same class. Our school also uses PBL which is fine, but they seem like they rely on it too heavy as a result of having such a small staff. Oh yeah, basically the same four professors for the entire program- which could be good or bad.

3) Money. I looked at the tuition of 44k for the program and thought, "Not bad at all, I can pay this off in a few years." Then I realized I would have an additional 50k in loans from living expenses(I have a roommate, reduced my cellphone bill, and live within my means). Having 100k of loans scares me ****l*ss. I have no desire to be 'rich', but I want to live comfortably and be able to support family members.

I do'nt know of any PTs who can't support their family members. If you're going to be a two income family it is easy to live quite comfortably. If you're going to be the sole bread winner, it is harder, but still possible, particularly if you live somewhere with a lower cost of living.

4) I think I will enjoy working as a PT for awhile, but I could see myself getting bored and not being able to switch professions because of the aforementioned debt.

If you're "working as a PT" you'll get bored. If you're engaged in the profession, you won't. Get yourself engaged in evidenced-informed practice, sink your teeth into the coursework that interests you, and you'll set yourself up to be an engaged professional for the span of your career.

5) To be honest, I don't feel as enthusiastic as other classmates. I'm sure you've seen, or maybe you're one of these, people know that PT is their soulmate and no loan, crap school, etc would slow them down.

Those people are too touchy-feely and non-realistic for my taste. I really like being a PT, but if I couldn't live comfortably and didn't enjoy the work, I would do somehing else. The whole "I just know PT is what I really want to do and I don't care if I'm $250,000 in debt to do it" statements drive me crazy. It's all well-and-good until that first loan payment happens.
But, it sounds as though you've choseen a moderately priced program. I know of several PTs with debt similar to your and I wouldn't say they are struggling. They don't drive BMWs, but they don't drive 12 year old Ford Festivas either.

6) I'm a sociable person, but I don't know if I'm the kind of person who will enjoy the extended amounts of patient interaction that therapist encounter everyday. I think I'm suited more for shortened bursts of patient interaction (i.e. diagnosing) that PAs or DOs have.

I'm a natural introvert. You'll likely find that you develop a work personality and a home personality. At home, I could go weeks without speaking to someone. In the clinic, I'm able to engage with my clients comfortably. And remember, you're in the clinic to educate the patient, and direct their care, not socialize with them about kids, work, concerts, etc. You aren't going to spend 45 minutes with them chatting about the weather.

Sorry if that was hard to read, I'm just a little down from all of this. My undergraduate was exercise science so I thought it was a natural fit. I am realizing this degree is pretty worthless by itself, so I'm trying to consider what other options I have and have thought of doing bio engineering. I like healthcare, but I feel medicine would be a more natural fit but I've already got a semester of PT school down, and it would take me at least 2 years to start a medical program(pa).

My 2 cents: I wouldn't change educational paths at this time. It doesn't sound like the amount you'll inccur is oppresive, and I think you'll enjoy school more once you start getting into the more clinical aspect of it in your upcoming classes.
 
Do you mind saying which school it is? I am currently applying to UCF, UF and NOVA in Florida. I don't want to attend a program that the students are unhappy with!
 
I had a lot of struggles when I first started PT school too, but now I'm in my 2nd year and I'm really glad I stuck it out. PM me, if you're interested in talking further!
 
Do you mind saying which school it is? I am currently applying to UCF, UF and NOVA in Florida. I don't want to attend a program that the students are unhappy with!

None of those programs, you should be golden. I highly recommend UF out of those three 🙂
 
None of those programs, you should be golden. I highly recommend UF out of those three 🙂

I have also applied to the same schools as the previous poster. You wouldn't happen to be talking about UM either, would you?
 
I went to NOVA and loved it. It was PBL back then. However, every school is only as good as what you intend to put into it. there is no coasting in PT school. If you want to be a good clinician you need to know the why behind all of your answers. On a side note, with the cost of loans and the lowering payment and outlook for PTs, I would struggle to choose to go to PT school if I were a student. Has the idea of paying back 1000 bucks a month or more turned any of you away?
 
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Complain to the school and give them feedback, you still have 2 and half years left if you're in a 3 year program. There are companies who will ask you to compromise your beliefs but you should remember that its your license on the line and not theirs. Do whats right and there'll be no problems.
You are going into a great profession, you won't regret it in the long run.
 
Fejin757- I just came across this thread and your reasoning and I'm in the exact same shoes a few years later. Currently half way through PT school in Georgia and just applied to PA school. I feel like for the amount of school required for this degree ( more money for apta/schools) , I'm spending all this money to become a glamorized personal trainer. I've been so disheartened with the profession already. Not sure with your schools curriculum , but I feel like they try to make this program and profession seem so complex and having us learn so much way outside our scope of practice to fill up the 3 years. My last 2 clinicals were a joke and justified my turn off. The pts there bitched about how they were making 55k. Is this salary legit ?! I'm worried about my gameplan from this point forward. I applied to 2 pa schools on a whim but statistically probably won't get in with its competitiveness so I'll try again next year ( 3.5 undergrad. 150/149/4 gre and good dpt gpa/letters of rec and admission essay explaining myself and this career switch/transition). I really can't do **** with my undergrad degree ( ex sci) so unless I want to keep personal training , I have no way of ever making more than 50k unless I stick out dpt or get into pa and am in a ****ton more Of loans Anyways. Sorry to ramble and be negative nancy- everyone in my program is obsessed with the schooling but don't see the cons to the field yet and my parents/friends don't understand. So just looking for some advice from someone who's been in this situation. Did things get better ?
 
Fejin757- I just came across this thread and your reasoning and I'm in the exact same shoes a few years later. Currently half way through PT school in Georgia and just applied to PA school. I feel like for the amount of school required for this degree ( more money for apta/schools) , I'm spending all this money to become a glamorized personal trainer. I've been so disheartened with the profession already. Not sure with your schools curriculum , but I feel like they try to make this program and profession seem so complex and having us learn so much way outside our scope of practice to fill up the 3 years. My last 2 clinicals were a joke and justified my turn off. The pts there bitched about how they were making 55k. Is this salary legit ?! I'm worried about my gameplan from this point forward. I applied to 2 pa schools on a whim but statistically probably won't get in with its competitiveness so I'll try again next year ( 3.5 undergrad. 150/149/4 gre and good dpt gpa/letters of rec and admission essay explaining myself and this career switch/transition). I really can't do **** with my undergrad degree ( ex sci) so unless I want to keep personal training , I have no way of ever making more than 50k unless I stick out dpt or get into pa and am in a ****ton more Of loans Anyways. Sorry to ramble and be negative nancy- everyone in my program is obsessed with the schooling but don't see the cons to the field yet and my parents/friends don't understand. So just looking for some advice from someone who's been in this situation. Did things get better ?

You're doing it wrong.
 
Thanks for the advice ! ...
OK. Here's my advice. If you feel like a glamorized personal trainer, that's because....you're treating patients (during your clinicals) as if you are one. You're not treating them as a thoughtful, thorough clinician using a reasoning process consistent with that of an allied health professional. Your problem requires introspection and you're looking at all of the possible external problems. Get better at assimilating subjective information with objective findings, use treatment interventions founded in the best available evidence, refer out when problems lie outside your scope of practice (and I don't understand your reference to learning info outside of your scope in school), and your patients will not only get better, they will respect your body of knowledge and value the help you have provided them.

In my setting, almost 100% of my patients come to me with the primary complaint of pain, and treating pain is complex.

You can make your situation better.
 
Fejin757- I just came across this thread and your reasoning and I'm in the exact same shoes a few years later. Currently half way through PT school in Georgia and just applied to PA school. I feel like for the amount of school required for this degree ( more money for apta/schools) , I'm spending all this money to become a glamorized personal trainer. I've been so disheartened with the profession already. Not sure with your schools curriculum , but I feel like they try to make this program and profession seem so complex and having us learn so much way outside our scope of practice to fill up the 3 years. My last 2 clinicals were a joke and justified my turn off. The pts there bitched about how they were making 55k. Is this salary legit ?! I'm worried about my gameplan from this point forward. I applied to 2 pa schools on a whim but statistically probably won't get in with its competitiveness so I'll try again next year ( 3.5 undergrad. 150/149/4 gre and good dpt gpa/letters of rec and admission essay explaining myself and this career switch/transition). I really can't do **** with my undergrad degree ( ex sci) so unless I want to keep personal training , I have no way of ever making more than 50k unless I stick out dpt or get into pa and am in a ****ton more Of loans Anyways. Sorry to ramble and be negative nancy- everyone in my program is obsessed with the schooling but don't see the cons to the field yet and my parents/friends don't understand. So just looking for some advice from someone who's been in this situation. Did things get better ?

Personal trainer to physical therapist is an even lower comparison than a nurse practitioner at the cvs minute clinic to a primary care physician.
 
^You're aware that APTA is the group that is trying to help your reimbursement and trying to stop a lot of the surgeons from blocking direct access in states with limitations......which makes patients halfway through rehab go and get a superfluous referral and possibly stop care.....leading to complications down the road.....correct?

Schools are a trainwreck right now with tuition. It's ridiculous and depending on the school, a lot of it is due to straight up greed. Don't associate both issues. APTA isn't in cahoots with schools to wreck your future. School administration may be at some privates though.
 
Fejin757- I just came across this thread and your reasoning and I'm in the exact same shoes a few years later. Currently half way through PT school in Georgia and just applied to PA school. I feel like for the amount of school required for this degree ( more money for apta/schools) , I'm spending all this money to become a glamorized personal trainer. I've been so disheartened with the profession already. Not sure with your schools curriculum , but I feel like they try to make this program and profession seem so complex and having us learn so much way outside our scope of practice to fill up the 3 years. My last 2 clinicals were a joke and justified my turn off. The pts there bitched about how they were making 55k. Is this salary legit ?! I'm worried about my gameplan from this point forward. I applied to 2 pa schools on a whim but statistically probably won't get in with its competitiveness so I'll try again next year ( 3.5 undergrad. 150/149/4 gre and good dpt gpa/letters of rec and admission essay explaining myself and this career switch/transition). I really can't do **** with my undergrad degree ( ex sci) so unless I want to keep personal training , I have no way of ever making more than 50k unless I stick out dpt or get into pa and am in a ****ton more Of loans Anyways. Sorry to ramble and be negative nancy- everyone in my program is obsessed with the schooling but don't see the cons to the field yet and my parents/friends don't understand. So just looking for some advice from someone who's been in this situation. Did things get better ?
I would be in favor of you not being in healthcare in any fashion. You seem to have a crappy outlook and lame priorities. Not to mention a bad view of my profession. So maybe getting out and getting lost would be a good idea since I'm afraid you may be past the point of no return in terms of the way you look at things relative to physical therapy.
 
I know there is a lot of passion about this post, but I do not think this person is so unique in what they are reporting. I think a lot of students feel these is a disconnect between the level of education in the didactic portion of PT school and their perceived education in the clinical portion of PT school. No PT student can become a "thoughtful, thorough clinician using a reasoning process consistent with that of an allied health professional" (@jesspt ) on their own. This requires rigorous didactic AND clinical educators. I recommend speaking with the ACCE/DCE if you feel like you are a 'glamorized personal trainer' ( @Cramga a) to see if there is an issue with your clinical site. If you feel like the didactic portion of your education is not preparing you well, then talk with your Program Director. You are responsible for your own education, but you need appropriate facilitation to get you there. Treating patients in ANY field has more complexities than the general public or a novice health care student knows. You are only 1/2 way through your program...it is your responsibility to seek out those who can facilitate your learning (both didactic and clinical).
 
This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but I am bothered by the negative attitude sometimes shown to students who are having second thoughts about their chosen career path. Money matters, and people shouldn't feel bad if they're stressed about financial stability. Nobody has a magic ball to predict what priorities will rise to the top in the future. You may not need much money to feel happy in your early 20s, and your back may not ache. When you're older, bodily aches and pains kick in, and people sometimes have family members or other financial obligations to consider. That can make the debt to earning ratio much more onerous! If someone is thinking ahead and concerned about those things, I applaud them for considering the option to cut their losses or pick another path. That's just my opinion, but I've seen first hand that most of my colleagues have struggled immensely with debt b/c I live in an expensive city. In smaller cities, most people are fine with a PT salary. Sure, moving is always an option, but if someone's family already lives in an expensive city, it's not so easy to just pick up and move somewhere else to pay off debt. I'm not trying to be a jerk or stir the pot, but just hope that people will show more compassion to students who are likely factoring in these circumstances when they come and post here, looking for advice... Thanks 🙂 🙂
 
Ptisfun2 and drevil518,
Thank you for your non-defensive/attacking responses. I did not mean to offend any other PT's or SPTs with my statement. I worked as a tech for a year and half and witnessed GREAT outpatient PT prior to school , but was naive to the healthcare reform and the actual median/starting salaries for PT ( lets face it, every website says something different, ranging from 55 to 80 k ) . I'm definitely interested in the healthcare field , as none of us really know eachother in real life and what our personalities are like..but I'm struggling with the fact that my clinicals have been a joke so far with sub-par PT's (that did nothing more than basic ther-ex ) and my realization of the cons to this field ( Mainly due to the low growth on the career ladder). I'm not foolish or irresponsible enough to drop out of PT school due to this quarter life crisis and fear for my financial future, but have looked into alternate routes ( i.e applied to PA school) . Trying to see the glass half full and make the best of the situation and possibly find my niche in PT after school or use it as Segway into something else. Thanks
 
Ptisfun2 and drevil518,
Thank you for your non-defensive/attacking responses. I did not mean to offend any other PT's or SPTs with my statement. I worked as a tech for a year and half and witnessed GREAT outpatient PT prior to school , but was naive to the healthcare reform and the actual median/starting salaries for PT ( lets face it, every website says something different, ranging from 55 to 80 k ) . I'm definitely interested in the healthcare field , as none of us really know eachother in real life and what our personalities are like..but I'm struggling with the fact that my clinicals have been a joke so far with sub-par PT's (that did nothing more than basic ther-ex ) and my realization of the cons to this field ( Mainly due to the low growth on the career ladder). I'm not foolish or irresponsible enough to drop out of PT school due to this quarter life crisis and fear for my financial future, but have looked into alternate routes ( i.e applied to PA school) . Trying to see the glass half full and make the best of the situation and possibly find my niche in PT after school or use it as Segway into something else. Thanks


I'm only on my second clinical now, but they have been worlds apart. One much more rigorous and critically thinking, though in a big corporate environment. The other is old-school with passive modalities and not well thought out rehab stategies, but in a small clinic that values strong relationships with patients. Wish I could find a place that has the best of both. Both have been depressing at times and caused me to rethink what I'm doing with my life.

But I find that no matter where I go in life, I wrestle with questions of "should I be doing something else". That's how I ended up in PT school after working a well-paying desk job in my twenties. Don't let the doubt freak you out too much. Doubt is a normal part of reflecting on life. Try to find a clinician somewhere that is doing something that you find compelling. Surround yourself with better people and you might get more excited about the prospects of PT.
 
Ptisfun2 and drevil518,
Thank you for your non-defensive/attacking responses. I did not mean to offend any other PT's or SPTs with my statement. I worked as a tech for a year and half and witnessed GREAT outpatient PT prior to school , but was naive to the healthcare reform and the actual median/starting salaries for PT ( lets face it, every website says something different, ranging from 55 to 80 k ) . I'm definitely interested in the healthcare field , as none of us really know eachother in real life and what our personalities are like..but I'm struggling with the fact that my clinicals have been a joke so far with sub-par PT's (that did nothing more than basic ther-ex ) and my realization of the cons to this field ( Mainly due to the low growth on the career ladder). I'm not foolish or irresponsible enough to drop out of PT school due to this quarter life crisis and fear for my financial future, but have looked into alternate routes ( i.e applied to PA school) . Trying to see the glass half full and make the best of the situation and possibly find my niche in PT after school or use it as Segway into something else. Thanks

I wasn't offended.

From this post, it seems like you know what good care should look like. So do it.

You can find other jobs that will make you more $$$.
 
Interesting thread.... I too wrestled with this decision after doing what you call subpar clinicals. I jumped ship and got out b/c one, I was not passionate about it, two, it did not make much financial sense, three, I couldn't find room for growth that would be satisfying within the field. I urge you to take a hard look at option one....that is where you should start. I believe it is true you can't do your best at something you dont enjoy and are not passionate about. One word of advice, if you leave....you absolutely cannot look back and must keep moving forward. PM me if you would like to discuss further.
 
I'm in my first semester, and I'm quitting. Here are my reasons:
1. Student Debt after graduation $100,000
2. Filler Coursework
3. Salary doesn't commensurate with the degree.
4. Lack of Upward growth beyond "direct of rehab"
5. With respect, most rudimentary professions (those which do not require 8 years of school) such as like car mechanics or plumbers get paid more.
6. Being an athletic trainer has better Return on Investment than being a PT, monetarily speaking.
6. APTA just release a forecast by 2024 there will be surplus of PTs, negating any movement for higher pay.

PT school is not easy, time consuming, and opportunity costs for me are too high.
Most PTs change their careers after 15-20 years once their back starts aching.


LOL
 
I'm in my first semester, and I'm quitting. Here are my reasons:
1. Student Debt after graduation $100,000
2. Filler Coursework
3. Salary doesn't commensurate with the degree.
4. Lack of Upward growth beyond "direct of rehab"
5. With respect, most rudimentary professions (those which do not require 8 years of school) such as like car mechanics or plumbers get paid more.
6. Being an athletic trainer has better Return on Investment than being a PT, monetarily speaking.
6. APTA just release a forecast by 2024 there will be surplus of PTs, negating any movement for higher pay.

PT school is not easy, time consuming, and opportunity costs for me are too high.
Most PTs change their careers after 15-20 years once their back starts aching.


LOL

A quick search of this forum and you wouldn't have wasted a semester. Half of those reasons carry no merit. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.
 
I'm in my first semester, and I'm quitting

I swear I spend more time deciding what brand of oil filter to buy for my car, than guys like you when you pick a major to pursue...

How about applying that impromptu quitting to patient care... Seems like there's a recent surge of forum discussion on people changing their minds due to high student debt. This student loan "crisis" was addressed and passed unanimously at the recent House of Delegates- read more here: http://www.apta.org/Pulse/2016/6/2/RC11/ . Though it might take time for any meaningful change. We all just need to do our part and be engaged. Me? I'm just an optimist.
 
I'm in my first semester, and I'm quitting. Here are my reasons:
1. Student Debt after graduation $100,000
2. Filler Coursework
3. Salary doesn't commensurate with the degree.
4. Lack of Upward growth beyond "direct of rehab"
5. With respect, most rudimentary professions (those which do not require 8 years of school) such as like car mechanics or plumbers get paid more.
6. Being an athletic trainer has better Return on Investment than being a PT, monetarily speaking.
6. APTA just release a forecast by 2024 there will be surplus of PTs, negating any movement for higher pay.

PT school is not easy, time consuming, and opportunity costs for me are too high.
Most PTs change their careers after 15-20 years once their back starts aching.


LOL

note to any pre-pt reading this: all of these statements are at least partially false without major caveats and some of the are just patently untrue...i kind of smell a troll...





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How about applying that impromptu quitting to patient care... Seems like there's a recent surge of forum discussion on people changing their minds due to high student debt. This student loan "crisis" was addressed and passed unanimously at the recent House of Delegates- read more here: http://www.apta.org/Pulse/2016/6/2/RC11/ . Though it might take time for any meaningful change. We all just need to do our part and be engaged. Me? I'm just an optimist.

Not sure why the link doesn't work, but you could just google "RC 11-16"
 
I switched careers from a high paying IT job and a debt free life. I graduated last month with 100,000+ loans and a a 41% pay decrease from my previous job. But I needed a job that I could do 20+ years that also gave me the freedom to switch things up within the field when I got stagnant. I didn't see that possibility in my previous job and every time I saw a job posting, it didn't look fun. I know the loans are a heavy burden but you're not alone. we all have it and it'll work out. companies also offer a loan forgiveness program, although it's usually small but hey, it's free money. you really have to sit down and figure out what you want to do... what are you passionate about... what could you do that doesn't seem like "work". I saw various postings about PA vs PT. I did the exact same weighing things out but I valued PT more because of the rapport we build with our patients. I worked with PAs on orthopedic floors of hospitals and I had to educate them about certain protocols and continue to educate MDs about contraindications. I also like that as a PT I'm autonomous... truly autonomous... no one has to co-sign my notes and I can open up a clinic if I wanted to. I get that the bottom line is important... but so is your happiness. so what makes you happy? if it was easy and cost-effective then everyone would be doing it... sometimes the things in life worth striving for is the most difficult path to take.
 
My older brother's best friend is a PT with his own practice and he absolutely loves it and is making boat loads of money. My friend from high school who is a few years older then me is opening his own practice with a spinal surgeon and another PT. The PT he is opening the practice with owns 8 facilities and hasn't treated a patient in 15 years, he manages his businesses now. I'm not becoming a PT to open and bunch of practices so I never have to treat a patient again, but at least the option is out there if I'm so ambitious. Also, hospitals are desperate to hire PTs with MBAs to work administrative positions with 6 figure salaries. Get an online MBA if you hate working as a PT
 
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