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I heard Jackson Memorial/Miami U had the best reputation. But that was obviously wrong because Cleveland Clinic and U. of Florida are the only ones from the state to grant me an interview invite 😉
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Is University of FL Jacksonville a branch of UF Gainsville similar to UIllinois Chicago and UIllinois-Peoria? Also, does Cleveland Clinic Florida have just as good of a reputation as Cleveland Clinic-OH?
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From what I've heard, the "franchise" Mayos and Cleveland Clinics are more community hospital based as opposed to the originals which are much more academic oriented. So, I'd suspect you'd get very good clinical training from the branches but without many basic science (and perhaps clinical trials as well) opportunities which would be more readily available at the main campuses.
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Being from Georgia, I have really scoured the pages on here trying to find out about the Mayo's, Cleveland Clinics, and UF's.... I would for the most part agree with the above comments. Miami has a good reputation and I think it is probably the best program in FL with regards to diversity of faculty and having all disciplines covered. Mayo seems to be sort of outpatient based and probably sees a lot of zebras from elsewhere.
I was really looking forward to interviewing at UF but I have recently heard some concerning things. I have an Pulm Crit Care attending who just moved from UF to my institution and he said that he thought the UF program had taken a significant turn for the worse in the last years, specifically a lot of scut work and not a lot of attending supervision with little teaching. I don't know if this is true or not, but I also had an applicant last year tell me that he felt like they pulled some underhanded stuff on the trail last year. I had always heard great things about UF prior to this and was kinda shocked by the wham bam nature of hearing two people bring up UF outta the blue when they heard I was applying to Neuro in the SE. Just wondering if anyone knows anything to the contrary or likewise???
I was really looking forward to interviewing at UF but I have recently heard some concerning things. I have an Pulm Crit Care attending who just moved from UF to my institution and he said that he thought the UF program had taken a significant turn for the worse in the last years, specifically a lot of scut work and not a lot of attending supervision with little teaching. I don't know if this is true or not, but I also had an applicant last year tell me that he felt like they pulled some underhanded stuff on the trail last year. I had always heard great things about UF prior to this and was kinda shocked by the wham bam nature of hearing two people bring up UF outta the blue when they heard I was applying to Neuro in the SE. Just wondering if anyone knows anything to the contrary or likewise???
I am currently a neuro prelim at UF - Gainesville. I did my med school at university of Rochester. My wife is from Fl, and i was done with the cold in Rochester so i applied to 3 programs in Fl - which from my research were the best 3 ( UF-Gainesville, Mayo-Jax, and Miami).
From my experience UF was the best, and i ranked it first. I liked it because of the excellent faculty like Dr Heilman (father of behav neurology). It was also "non-malignant" imho, and they were starting a night float (they do hv a night float now). They hv just gotten a new chairman (frm galveston, and frm what i hear, he cam with lotsa $$$ as well) I hear the inpatient service is pretty busy on the Shands side, but the VA side is more relaxed. (might explain some of the concerns of the attending u spoke with). I did my ambulatory month doing neuro outpatient at Shands and i loved it - excellent faculty, very personable, approachable, and eager to teach. frm what i hear they may be opening up more spots. Shands has just opened a newer part of the hospital i.e. increased beds, so it seem likely that work will increase (more admissions, and more consults so if ur applying here, ask if they'll be increasing spots given the new hosp)
Mayo jax was pretty cool. They had an outpatient focused program (unique), but had only 3 residents/year, with q3 call for 3years which was a a big no no for me. I also felt a very obvious lack of diversity at Mayo jax. everyone was white and 95% white protestant. They also sed clearly that "u will not see HIV neurology, etc here". For me certain "concerning" thigs made me place them lower on the list. for instance the residents during the dinner told us that u go home early on pre-call and leave in the AM on yr post-call day. the prog director also reiterated that, but the residents who had lunch with us sed, yeah thats kinda what we are supposed to do, but u dont wanna leave early on yr pre-call day and leave the work 4 yr other residents... to me the residents were obviously not being honest and were hiding stuff frm the applicants.
Also It seemed like neurology for those who can pay 4 it... I was told may jax sends people who cant pay away to shands, and at first i did not think this was true, until i was working in the outpatient neuro clinic and i got a patient who had just had a deep brain stimulation electrode placed in mao, and came here because she was told - mayo no longer accpted her insurance (whic was medicare) PS i knw it sounds ridiculous, but i can state with 100% proof that this hapenned and i witnessed it.
Miami: my opinion- a very busy program (10 residents a year). Big hispanic population, so u need to know spanish (otherwise everyone will seem like wernikes aphasia 🙂 and i am not abig city guy (traffic, bad driving...) but if ur the city kinda guy u may like this program. the prog director was young and pretty "cool" he drove a convertible, and gave us a ride in it to the dinner..
all the best to y'all enjoy 4th yr!!!
From my experience UF was the best, and i ranked it first. I liked it because of the excellent faculty like Dr Heilman (father of behav neurology). It was also "non-malignant" imho, and they were starting a night float (they do hv a night float now). They hv just gotten a new chairman (frm galveston, and frm what i hear, he cam with lotsa $$$ as well) I hear the inpatient service is pretty busy on the Shands side, but the VA side is more relaxed. (might explain some of the concerns of the attending u spoke with). I did my ambulatory month doing neuro outpatient at Shands and i loved it - excellent faculty, very personable, approachable, and eager to teach. frm what i hear they may be opening up more spots. Shands has just opened a newer part of the hospital i.e. increased beds, so it seem likely that work will increase (more admissions, and more consults so if ur applying here, ask if they'll be increasing spots given the new hosp)
Mayo jax was pretty cool. They had an outpatient focused program (unique), but had only 3 residents/year, with q3 call for 3years which was a a big no no for me. I also felt a very obvious lack of diversity at Mayo jax. everyone was white and 95% white protestant. They also sed clearly that "u will not see HIV neurology, etc here". For me certain "concerning" thigs made me place them lower on the list. for instance the residents during the dinner told us that u go home early on pre-call and leave in the AM on yr post-call day. the prog director also reiterated that, but the residents who had lunch with us sed, yeah thats kinda what we are supposed to do, but u dont wanna leave early on yr pre-call day and leave the work 4 yr other residents... to me the residents were obviously not being honest and were hiding stuff frm the applicants.
Also It seemed like neurology for those who can pay 4 it... I was told may jax sends people who cant pay away to shands, and at first i did not think this was true, until i was working in the outpatient neuro clinic and i got a patient who had just had a deep brain stimulation electrode placed in mao, and came here because she was told - mayo no longer accpted her insurance (whic was medicare) PS i knw it sounds ridiculous, but i can state with 100% proof that this hapenned and i witnessed it.
Miami: my opinion- a very busy program (10 residents a year). Big hispanic population, so u need to know spanish (otherwise everyone will seem like wernikes aphasia 🙂 and i am not abig city guy (traffic, bad driving...) but if ur the city kinda guy u may like this program. the prog director was young and pretty "cool" he drove a convertible, and gave us a ride in it to the dinner..
all the best to y'all enjoy 4th yr!!!
Miami has a number of advantages over the other Florida programs, and other programs in general:
You will work in three hospitals with vastly different populations, and you will see everything! All are on the same campus for your convenience:
1) Jackson Memorial: public, here Spanish and or Creole would be helpful, but is NOT necessary, the majority of the PGY1 class does not speak Spanish.
2) University of Miami: private
3) Miami VA: you will need English to work here 😉
More fellowships than you can shake a stick at:
Great PGY2 ward call schedule: q9
All ward patients are on the same floor, along with the stroke unit, good facilities. Strong neuro nursing.
Excellent (by hospital standards) cafeteria.
24hr subway and McDonald's. Aubonpain on campus (it's the little things) 👍
Unmatched standard of living for your dollar:
Strong leadership:
Dr. Ralph Sacco: Chair of the Department, President of the American Heart Association
Dr. Richard Isaacson: Residency Director: Young, energetic, research in resident education
You will work in three hospitals with vastly different populations, and you will see everything! All are on the same campus for your convenience:
1) Jackson Memorial: public, here Spanish and or Creole would be helpful, but is NOT necessary, the majority of the PGY1 class does not speak Spanish.
2) University of Miami: private
3) Miami VA: you will need English to work here 😉
More fellowships than you can shake a stick at:
- Neuro-critical care
- Sleep medicine
- Neuromuscular
- Vascular neurology
- Neuro-rehab /Pain
- Neuro-opthalmology
- Behavioral / cognitive neurology
- Neurophysiology
- Neuro-Interventional
- Multiple sclerosis / neuroimmunology
Great PGY2 ward call schedule: q9
All ward patients are on the same floor, along with the stroke unit, good facilities. Strong neuro nursing.
Excellent (by hospital standards) cafeteria.
24hr subway and McDonald's. Aubonpain on campus (it's the little things) 👍
Unmatched standard of living for your dollar:
- Want to live on the beach? 10 min drive to work.
- Traffic got you down? A 7min train ride from a happening downtown neighborhood directly to work beckons.
- Want a pool and gym in your building, perhaps squash or tennis?
- Beautiful ocean views aplenty?
Strong leadership:
Dr. Ralph Sacco: Chair of the Department, President of the American Heart Association
Dr. Richard Isaacson: Residency Director: Young, energetic, research in resident education
