? For PT Runners about Quad. Pain

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Just wondering if any student/PT could give me their 2 cents recovering from a long distance race in running. I took a couple days off after and my legs felt ok...but tired. I did strengthening (just isometric contractions) a few days later and my right quad became REALLY sore the next day...even sore to the touch! Stretching seems to make it stiff a few seconds later. Also on the same leg the VMO is pretty weak...which is why I wanted to work on strength. Any advice? Any thoughts on if I should try running while its still sore?
PS I should mention that the soreness has been going on for 2-3days & 1wk post race.

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sounds like DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) which normally kicks in 48-72 hours after a long duration strenuous activity such as a long race. This is due to a bunch of biproducts (including lactic acid among others) that are produced by the muscle tissue and are unable to be properly broken down and removed from the sheath surrounding the large muscle groups i.e. the quads. This is the reason for the point tenderness. This will go away, in the mean time do LIGHT stretching nothing that will strain and ease back into running and strengthening slowly. To prevent this in the future concentrate on eccentric loading during leg exercises (the downward phase of a squat) and drink some gatorade for good measure.
 
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Hi!
Just reading up on DOMS it does sound very much like this...I actually hope thats what it is! Anyway thanks for your input!
 
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As the other poster said, it may be DOMS, which is caused by eccentric muscle damage and subsequent immune system response, NOT lactic acid. The key phases of DOMS include the structural damage to the myofilaments and surrounding tissues (leading to increased sensitivity by the myogenic nociceptors to touch and lengthening of the tissues), and the immune system response, where phagocytes destroy the damaged cells (including some healthy ones) and the cells are replaced by structurally stronger cells.

Basically, structural damage, then Ca2+ homeostasis is disrupted, resulting in necrotic cell death, intramuscular contents stimulate the nerve endings (results in pain), activation of the immune system and improper killing of both healthy and damaged tissues, new muscle fibers form to replace muscle damage, and the muscle strength is restored.

Acute soreness occurs approximately within 1-2 days, and DOMS peaks 2-3 days, after which inflammation of the tissues should be down to normal by the seventh day. The inflammation response is biphasic, the first phase (24 hrs) caused by eccentric damage and the second phase (48-72 hrs) by secondary damage of the healthy tissues by the immune system.

"Treatment" of DOMS
NOT Ice, RICE, or anti-inflammatory drugs.
Best treatments: time and rest from activity. Allow your muscles to recuperate and restore the damaged cells!

Try to strengthen and increase the endurance of the hamstring muscle group to help reduce the fatigue of the quadriceps. Also, for the VMO thing (runner's knee?), I would (remember, this is only advice, not a medical or health care professionals recommendation. Consult your physician or PT about this) increase strength by performing more compound resistance exercises that will work out the major muscle groups of the lower extremities, such as the gluteal group (which aides in medial rotation). Exercises such as squats and lunges are fine.

Good luck.
 
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All very good answers provided.

I'll give you a little background. Current PT student,I have been running competitively for 19yrs and racing professionally the last 6 years since college. Everything from one mile to marathon, and in between.

My advice although its a bit late now, is to go for a nice slow run. It is imperative that you run the day after a hard long race. The level of 'DOMS' symptoms are always far worse when people abstain from running for days/weeks after a race. It seems counter-intuitive, but go for a run nice and easy. It will flush out built up lactic acid, and it should only take about 30min minimum to gain the desired effect. Now don't get me wrong, that one little run will suck! But the gain of almost immediate bounce back recovery is sure to follow.

Just my 0.02
 
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