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KMF, don't let this freak you out if you are jsut applying. Schools do take note of where you went to undergrad but it is a very minor consideration. It is impossible to judge the quality of a n education based on subjective rankings like 1st tier v. 2nd tier; public v. private. That is one of the reasons we have the DAT and MCAT; they are STANDARDIZED tests.

BTW, I do disagree with realysa. She claims that the stats don't lie; however, she has failed to produce any. 🙂

In the way of anecdotal evidence:

1. I graduated from a lowly state school and was the only one to be accepted to dental school while several classmates with considerably lower GPAs were accepted to med school. In fact, I don't think our school failed to place a single med applicant this year.

2. During my junior year, a girl transferred to our state school from Emory and couldn't believe how difficult the science classes were.

3. My dental school class graduated predominantly from Emory, and GAtech - the best schools in the state. Many also came from UGA, but very few came from no-name schools like I did.

I think it is safe to say for the majority of people (this excludes bottom-tier outliers like Yah-E -- no offense, man) that if you can get in to dental school, you can get into med school. So choose whatever floats your boat. 🙂

 

[Meggs]

Originally posted by mcataz
Finally, I would major in the easiest field possible like sociology or something the athletes major in like recreation studies and pull A's in those classes.

👍 👍

 

[Bcat]

Sooooo has anyone else bought the new DVD on improving your suture technique?

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by KMF
I was just wondering, do dental schools understand what schools are easier? and which harder? I know the whole tier system thing is really controversial, but do they take into consideration a lower GPA at a higher tiered school? Or would they rather have higher GPA in general?

My school DOES rank undergrads, and this factors into the applicant getting a GPA. In other words, a 3.9 from a lower institution is not worth as many points as a 3.4 from a higher institution.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by realysa
talk about insecure, sport.

who's the one saying we're as good as the med students.

pas moi.

i'm just being realistic. i think we're the same or better than med students in non-academic ways.

stats don't lie, johnny boy.

First of all, YOU started the idea of comparing dental applicants to medical applicants. THIS thread was only mentioning that the GPA of dental applicants was rising. The GPAs of medical students were NOT mentioned until you posted here.

Secondly, stats don't lie, which is why you haven't produced any.

Cheers.

 

[aphistis]

You beat me to the post, Gavin. I echo your sentiments completely.

 

[KMF]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
My school DOES rank undergrads, and this factors into the applicant getting a GPA. In other words, a 3.9 from a lower institution is not worth as many points as a 3.4 from a higher institution.

Thank you Gavin. This is very interesting. Does anyone else know if other schools also rank?

 

[Rampart]

I can certainly say that scores are going up at the dental school I attend (in Canada). The overall avg GPA for our class is 3.9 and the prereq avg is 3.83. Canadian universities are pretty much standardized so you can't say that our class is from "dumb" universities.

Ohwell, I have a final exam on friday I should be studying for.

Rampart

 

[realysa]

let me continue on with my snobbish ways, but on a tangent.

i don't understand how this field let dental schools at 3 top tier schools close within the last two decades (georgetown, northwestern, and washington in st. louis).

this probably hurt our reputation among other med professionals and the informed public. let me see, so we have schools like nova southeastern, univ of pacific, creighton, and virginia commonwealth left to carry the torch (btw, these are great clinical schools and great denists are produced there, but no sexy research which defines a med profession).

the field of dentistry needs more snobbery and selectivity. all our lots will improve when this happens.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

It cost more to run a dental school and the costs were too high so they closed the doors. Atleast this what I was told.

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by realysa
the field of dentistry needs more snobbery and selectivity. all our lots will improve when this happens.

What my field DOESN'T need is attitudes like yours.

 

[Zurich5]

I agree -- somewhat. If you are talking in terms of raising the bar for dentists, as viewed by the general public, so there are less "what do you call a med school drop out..." jokes, then yes maybe dentistry should become a little more selective....and it is. Just look at this years application cycle. However, snobbery is not the way to further a profession. Consider lawyers, especially ?triad/ top 14 lawyers? most I know are snobs, and the general public just loves them. Lets not flame realysa, open forums always need protagonists.

Originally posted by realysa
let me continue on with my snobbish ways, but on a tangent.

i don't understand how this field let dental schools at 3 top tier schools close within the last two decades (georgetown, northwestern, and washington in st. louis).

this probably hurt our reputation among other med professionals and the informed public. let me see, so we have schools like nova southeastern, univ of pacific, creighton, and virginia commonwealth left to carry the torch (btw, these are great clinical schools and great denists are produced there, but no sexy research which defines a med profession).

the field of dentistry needs more snobbery and selectivity. all our lots will improve when this happens.

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by Zurich5
I agree -- somewhat. If you are talking in terms of raising the bar for dentists, as viewed by the general public, so there are less "what do you call a med school drop out..." jokes, then yes maybe dentistry should become a little more selective....and it is. Just look at this years application cycle. However, snobbery is not the way to further a profession. Consider lawyers, especially ?triad/ top 14 lawyers? most I know are snobs, and the general public just loves them. Lets not flame realysa, open forums always need protagonists.

You and I must know different groups of lawyers 😉

 

[ItsGavinC]

I agree in part, our profession, at least the education portion of our profession, could use a new shine. I think much of this is already under way and is coming in the form of better applicants, and more research oriented individuals.

For the record, MUCH good research has stemmed from dentists and dental schools. Dentistry beat medicine to the punch in the realm of prevention. Physicians still, for the most part, react to situations and work to cure others. Dentistry actively promotes prevention and is, in essence, trying to put ourselves out of work.

 

[Zurich5]

I think sarcasm is hard to read in text.

Originally posted by aphistis
You and I must know different groups of lawyers 😉