General question about DO education

[chanx314]

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Had a quick question which i'm not clear about D.O. School itself is 4 years and then is intern year for 12 months, but is residency after completely separate, or is it like MD people where the first year of residency is called intern year...like if you do internal medicine after ur intern year is it 3 years additional or 2 years...same for other specialties does the first year count to the residency...also is intern year salary basically the same as residency salary or significantly less?

 

[Krazykritter]

Many AOA approved residencies do as the ACGME residency does and include PGY-1 as the intern year. You will hear this called "fast-track" residencies. For example, an AOA approved general surgery residency is PGY1-5 w/ your first year as your intern year where you do a 'rotating' internship.

Should you choose to do an ACGME program, you go through PGY1-5 and complete your residency. HOWEVER, you would not presently be able to be licensed in the 5 mean states.

If i missed anything or misworded anything, someone help me out.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Many AOA approved residencies do as the ACGME residency does and include PGY-1 as the intern year. You will hear this called "fast-track" residencies. For example, an AOA approved general surgery residency is PGY1-5 w/ your first year as your intern year where you do a 'rotating' internship.

Should you choose to do an ACGME program, you go through PGY1-5 and complete your residency. HOWEVER, you would not presently be able to be licensed in the 5 mean states.

If i missed anything or misworded anything, someone help me out.

Yes, you can still become licensed in the 5 "mean states" if you can prove that there was a valid reason that you could not do an AOA internship.

Keep in mind that some specialties are the same length with both AOA and ACGME residencies. In this case, there will be no concern with getting internship year approval.

 

[Dr Trek 1]

I should probably know the answer to this question that I'm about to ask. I know that PA is one of the states that requires a DO "internship year."

However, let's say I earn my DO in PA and then accept an allopathic residency in NY, do I still need to do that DO internship year or am I considered the same as any other MD resident?

 

[Jack Daniel]

I should probably know the answer to this question that I'm about to ask. I know that PA is one of the states that requires a DO "internship year."

However, let's say I earn my DO in PA and then accept an allopathic residency in NY, do I still need to do that DO internship year or am I considered the same as any other MD resident?

Unless I'm misunderstanding your question--it is my understanding that you would still need to complete an internship in order to be licensed by the PA DO board to practice medicine, regardless of where you earned your medical degree.

 

[OSUdoc08]

I should probably know the answer to this question that I'm about to ask. I know that PA is one of the states that requires a DO "internship year."

However, let's say I earn my DO in PA and then accept an allopathic residency in NY, do I still need to do that DO internship year or am I considered the same as any other MD resident?

You need to be certified by the AOA to PRACTICE in one of those 5 states. If you are practicing in another state (i.e. NY,) you do not need to be certified. If you decide to return the PA, then you would need to get certified by the AOA.

The easiest way to become certified by the AOA is to complete an AOA internship. You can also get the first year of ACGME residency to count as the internship year if you can prove that it is equivalent and/or there were no AOA training spots available to you for whatever reason (i.e. family.)

 

[Dr Trek 1]

The easiest way to become certified by the AOA is to complete an AOA internship. You can also get the first year of ACGME residency to count as the internship year if you can prove that it is equivalent and/or there were no AOA training spots available to you for whatever reason (i.e. family.)

Thanks for your reply. So even if a complete a ACGME residency in NY in, say, family medicine, then move back to PA, I would still have to prove that my ACGME residency was "equivalent" to the AOA FM residency in order to get a medical license to practice in PA?

 

[OSUdoc08]

Thanks for your reply. So even if a complete a ACGME residency in NY in, say, family medicine, then move back to PA, I would still have to prove that my ACGME residency was "equivalent" to the AOA FM residency in order to get a medical license to practice in PA?

Yes.

 

[Dr Trek 1]

Yes.

I think I'll stay in NY