Georgetown vs. Georgetown/Washington Hospital Center

[holoo]

hi,

I was wondering if anyone can give me any info on Washingston Hospital Center IM program which is separate from the main Georgetown program? What is the make up of the resident population? Their fellowship placement? And how do they compare with the main program?

thanks

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[tarlovcyst]

hi,

I was wondering if anyone can give me any info on Washingston Hospital Center IM program which is separate from the main Georgetown program? What is the make up of the resident population? Their fellowship placement? And how do they compare with the main program?

thanks

Georgetown had some financial difficulties years back, and the IM program was malignant back in the day. I don't know if they cleaned up their act today. The facilities are older than what you would be used to.

Washington Hospital is known for its cardiology program. It's in the top 20 in the country. Scutwork gives misleading reviews on WHC, so I would not trust scutwork. Back-searches show that some consider WHC > Georgetown, while others consider the other way around.

Thanks for the thread.

 

[tfom08]

I interviewed at GTown this year. They make it sound like if you want to do cards you can do all of your rotations at WHC (WHC is owned by MedStar, the same company that owns GUH). I would imagine that overall, GTown is a stronger program in general being that it is the university program and has more faculty connections, along with the fact that Gtown residents do several rotations at WHC.

If you are looking at DC, I would suggest applying to George Washington. I was more impressed with the program and will rank GWU above GTown. That's nothing against GTown, though, I thought it was a solid program and all the resident interactions I had were positive.

 

[DCIM]

I'm at Georgetown and know a bit about Georgetown and WHC. They are two separate programs. I don't know anything firsthand about GW but have no doubt it's a great IM program.

To address a few immediate points:
1. Georgetown Hospital is in excellent financial shape and has been for a few years.
2. The program is absolutely not malignant. Every year many Georgetown med graduates stay at GUH, which would not happen if the residency program was bad in any way.
3. The fellowship match at GUH is solid year after year - in every specialty.

MedStar is the strongest Hospital Group in the area, which helps both GUH and WHC.

For the two programs. Most of the WHC residency is done at WHC. The GUH residents go to 5 different hospitals, though GUH comprises at least half of everyone's time.

In terms of the hospitals, WHC is an urban community hospital. That what is was founded as and that's what it will be. There are mostly private attendings and Kaiser attendings. The hospital does directly employ some physicians and of those there are plenty that teach and lecture residents. The lectures are very good. Many residents are from other countries and have already completed a residency in their home country. Most are excellent. The residents match well in fellowships, including the WHC/GUH combined fellowships of Rheum and Endo.

Georgetown is not a private practice hospital. The overwhelming majority are institution employees. They are all expected to educate residents and fellows. The Georgetown University Medical Center, which includes labs, the medical school and the Lombardi Cancer Center is contiguous with the hospital.

This has been long but hopefully helpful.

 

[dragonfly99]

It's been a few years since I interviewed, but my impression at the time was that Georgetown was the most "academic" of the IM residencies in the DC area. The hospital, however, was older and a bit run down, giving the overall impression that the place had seen better days. The PD seemed cool but there appeared to be some unhappiness and/or malignancy there...this has been several years ago and from what DC says above, these problems may be gone. I would have still gone there over WHC or GW, given that the GWU residents didn't seem very interested in their education - more in hanging out in DC and partying, and in the past their board pass rate was not very good. However, the GWU hospital was nice and very modern, and they all got free PDA's, which looked cool. WHC is known for its cardiology, but personally if you want cards I think it is better to do your residency at a university hospital like Georgetown...likely if you check on it they have a better cardiology match rate than either WHC or GWU, or at least are likely to match at better cardiology programs. GWU appears to keep a lot of their own for cards, though, or at least they did in the past, which may work in your favor if you do residency there.

 

[holoo]

thanks everyone!v

 

[lemonlite]

Does anyone know the breakdown of IMG/DO to MD grads for catagorical at WHC?

 

[tarlovcyst]

At this #2 hospital in DC, if I remember everything I saw in the list correctly, there were several AMGs and there was a minority of the resident makeup. Some of these AMGs were part of the Med/Derm combined program. The majority of residents at this hospital were either osteopathic or IMGs. The IMGs were from all over, being represented by countries like India, Iran, and Ireland. I remember seeing the DOs coming from PCOM, the osteopathic school in Florida, and maybe Kirksville (?). Not sure. The AMGs came from Univ of Maryland, GU (George washington University), and other places.

A little vague, but this is all coming from my memory. Hope this helps.

 

[lemonlite]

thanks! It seemed like a really great program on our interview day...