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There's a whole lot more to an application than the GPA; there are definitely people with that GPA that get into med school, but it all depends on the other stuff. Do really well on your MCAT and I (personally) don't know if you'll need to do a postbacc. I would not consider St. George's. If you get over a 30 on your MCAT, you don't need to. Maybe you should go and talk to your premed advisor about it. My advisor was very helpful, told me that I was on the border of being accepteptable, but if I did one of these post-baccs (and did well), I would easily get in. If that is your situation, then look at the various post-baccs.
There is also more than just georgetown; there is also drexel, finch, loyola-chicago, nymed, and probably a couple more. $30k for a year is a lot of money though. I'm currently doing the SMP at Georgetown and it's great. It's a lot of work, but it's definitely manageable. They recommend at least 5 hours of studying a day, and I think that's a pretty realistic number.
Since our grades are based on the med students curve, no one in the program is competing with each other. In the grad school classes, the grades are not curved. Everyone wants to do well, but it's a very friendly atmosphere and people are always willing to help each other out. That has been my experience, at least; there is always going to be someone who is extremely competitive. Overall, it's a very worthwhile experience, and next year is going to be extremely easy (comparatively) for me, no matter where I end up.
I think you will have a good shot of getting into the SMP, as long as you apply early. Avgs are usually about 3.3 and 30, but the difficulty of getting in changes immensely as time goes on. Apply early with decent stats and you'll get in easily. Later on, people with good GPAs and MCATs, who for some reason or other get rejected from med schools, panic and apply to Gtown, so then you're competing with people who have 34s on the MCAT.
As for being in class with the med students...it's just that...i dunno, nothing special. I think at some other schools you have to watch the lecture on a TV separate from the med students, and I don't know if I'd like that too much. Here you are treated just like a med student by the professors and the faculty, you are not any less important. The faculty of the SMP are amazing though, they really care about the students and want us to do well. If anything, we get much more attention than the med students.
I think you should apply to med school the summer before you enter the program and do as many secondaries before it starts. Yes, it's a pain to do it during classes, but it's a whole lot better than waiting an extra year. Georgetown sends periodic grade reports to your med schools, so you might get in later than people not in a masters program, but you will get in (as long as you don't fail your classes). And hell, if you don't get in, you haven't lost any time. Just apply again, this time with all your grades. Alright, this has gotten really long; if you have any more questions, PM me and i'll be happy to answer them.
There is also more than just georgetown; there is also drexel, finch, loyola-chicago, nymed, and probably a couple more. $30k for a year is a lot of money though. I'm currently doing the SMP at Georgetown and it's great. It's a lot of work, but it's definitely manageable. They recommend at least 5 hours of studying a day, and I think that's a pretty realistic number.
Since our grades are based on the med students curve, no one in the program is competing with each other. In the grad school classes, the grades are not curved. Everyone wants to do well, but it's a very friendly atmosphere and people are always willing to help each other out. That has been my experience, at least; there is always going to be someone who is extremely competitive. Overall, it's a very worthwhile experience, and next year is going to be extremely easy (comparatively) for me, no matter where I end up.
I think you will have a good shot of getting into the SMP, as long as you apply early. Avgs are usually about 3.3 and 30, but the difficulty of getting in changes immensely as time goes on. Apply early with decent stats and you'll get in easily. Later on, people with good GPAs and MCATs, who for some reason or other get rejected from med schools, panic and apply to Gtown, so then you're competing with people who have 34s on the MCAT.
As for being in class with the med students...it's just that...i dunno, nothing special. I think at some other schools you have to watch the lecture on a TV separate from the med students, and I don't know if I'd like that too much. Here you are treated just like a med student by the professors and the faculty, you are not any less important. The faculty of the SMP are amazing though, they really care about the students and want us to do well. If anything, we get much more attention than the med students.
I think you should apply to med school the summer before you enter the program and do as many secondaries before it starts. Yes, it's a pain to do it during classes, but it's a whole lot better than waiting an extra year. Georgetown sends periodic grade reports to your med schools, so you might get in later than people not in a masters program, but you will get in (as long as you don't fail your classes). And hell, if you don't get in, you haven't lost any time. Just apply again, this time with all your grades. Alright, this has gotten really long; if you have any more questions, PM me and i'll be happy to answer them.
I did the SMP.
Finish your AMCAS and your secondaries before school starts. thats what I did. If you're in the SMP you'll need every advantage you can get so there isnt any reason you should be doing secondaries once schools has started unless there are other reasons holding your app (recs, mcats, etc).
SMP is competitive and hard. Dont be fooled into thinking you have an equal shot at getting into GU med. However, I can all but guarantee you that if you get a 4.0 in the program (which is possible and happens every year) you pretty much WILL GET IN gu med.
The sad thing is that a lot of GU SMP people dont rectify the progrms that landed them in the SMP to begin with. I see a lot of people claiming "i've changed, i'm ready to work hard" and some of these people ruined their chances of getting in to school by doing the SMP. with a 3.4, you have a decent chance as long as your MCAT is above a 30 without a SMP type program.
Honestly, the SMP didnt help me jack, even though I did really well in the program. I got into my top choice school during the 1st semester before any grades were ready, and I didnt apply to GU b/c I didnt like the school all that much. What the SMP did do for me is make my 1st year here at my med school a breeze. I've seriously done no work so far because the SMP prepares you really really well, so either way you win.
Finish your AMCAS and your secondaries before school starts. thats what I did. If you're in the SMP you'll need every advantage you can get so there isnt any reason you should be doing secondaries once schools has started unless there are other reasons holding your app (recs, mcats, etc).
SMP is competitive and hard. Dont be fooled into thinking you have an equal shot at getting into GU med. However, I can all but guarantee you that if you get a 4.0 in the program (which is possible and happens every year) you pretty much WILL GET IN gu med.
The sad thing is that a lot of GU SMP people dont rectify the progrms that landed them in the SMP to begin with. I see a lot of people claiming "i've changed, i'm ready to work hard" and some of these people ruined their chances of getting in to school by doing the SMP. with a 3.4, you have a decent chance as long as your MCAT is above a 30 without a SMP type program.
Honestly, the SMP didnt help me jack, even though I did really well in the program. I got into my top choice school during the 1st semester before any grades were ready, and I didnt apply to GU b/c I didnt like the school all that much. What the SMP did do for me is make my 1st year here at my med school a breeze. I've seriously done no work so far because the SMP prepares you really really well, so either way you win.
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If you aren't planning on applying to an extremely competitive residency, then I think you should go to SGU. If you are u will be at a disadvantage applying from SGU but many people from SGU still get very good residencies.
