Getting a research position without experience

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Hey guys, I have already graduated from college, but I have absolutely no research experience. Therefore, I have been having a hard time finding one. It seems like once you have obtained a Bachelor's degree, they expect you to have undergrad research experience to be even considered for a position in a lab. What options do I have? Is it possible to find a paid position in this case, or have I no option but to go with unpaid assistant positions?

How about doing a master's to gain some research experience before applying?

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You could do a Masters to gain experience in the lab by doing your thesis work, or you could just take a slight blow to your ego and try to find an "entry level" lab spot that you probably would have done in undergrad. Maybe from this position you could gain contacts etc. to branch out. However, the downside to this route would be that it would be part-time most likely (since it's aimed towards undergrads) and pay minimum wage.
 
I'd chose an unpaid internship position rather than going for a master's degree. The master's degree will cost you money, and how do you know for sure that you will enjoy research? If you don't like the field, then you will have wasted all that $$$ on the degree. Do you live nearby any medical schools? If so, check out their affiliated medical centers. Each department (anesthesiology, derm, surgery, etc etc.) at a teaching hospital may have their own research personnel, and you can inquire about some kind of research internship with them. It may be unpaid, but it will allow you to jump into the experience right away and determine whether research (bench or clinical) is really for you. Then, you can keep an eye on any paid research positions that may be opening up and apply for a job.
 
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Hey guys, I have already graduated from college, but I have absolutely no research experience. Therefore, I have been having a hard time finding one. It seems like once you have obtained a Bachelor's degree, they expect you to have undergrad research experience to be even considered for a position in a lab. What options do I have? Is it possible to find a paid position in this case, or have I no option but to go with unpaid assistant positions?

How about doing a master's to gain some research experience before applying?

A masters would be good, but make sure that you feel you can actually USE that masters if you don't get into medical school. For instance, if you get a biochemistry masters degree to impress the boards, and it fails to impress the boards, are you going to be happy as a biochemical scientist?

My suggestion would be the one I've always used, as it was the path I took. See if you can get a job as an admin worker. The type of job I did as a research assistant paid $8.00 an hour, and my job essentially consisted of ordering chemicals, taking stock, washing dishware, autoclaving waste, and basically do all the things that the researchers themselves were too busy to do.

You'll find that if you have a good PI, and you do a good job in your regular work, you can sometimes begin to inch your way into the research aspect. Learn one day how to do a Western blot, then some other day just watch a researcher culturing cells (or something like that). If nothing else, that counts as SOME type of research experience, and if you're really lucky (like I was), you can manage to land yourself in a publication. Granted, it takes time to get that far, but it worked for me.

The best way to approach that situation is to blatently state in your interview that you're a pre-med interested in gaining research experience, and that you'd be willing to learn whatever the PI wants to teach you. Not only will this show enthusiasm, but it will also guarentee to the PI that you'll stick around for a while and do pretty much anything you need to in order to get that experience. My PI liked me and wanted to see me get into medical school, so he was extremely helpful. I've heard horror stories about others, but like I said, it worked for me, and if you play your cards right, you might have a chance this way as well.

And for what it's worth, I had ZERO lab experience before managing to land my research assistant position. It wasn't so much my experience that got me in as it was my good grades in my science courses (showing I had a grasp of fundamental safety and chemical interactions, and therefore wasn't a liability) and my enthusiam to do well enough to pull a letter from him. Sometimes blatently stating what you want can hurt you, but I guess I was lucky.

Anywho, hope that helps.
 
A very entry level research tech job starts with washing dishes, doesn't require much previous experience.
 
If you were in Utah, I could offer you an interview😉

I'm leaving the lab (moving out of state) at the end of the year so I'm looking for someone to take over my position working with mice, we've found one person who is experienced (an MD from China, a postdoc I used to work with recommended her) but my PI is also thinking about hiring another. The type we're looking for is just like you, a recent grad, background in bio but not necessarily with research experience, plans to go to med/grad school in a few years, very motivated and interested, willing to work up from entry level grunt work to independent project, and isn't afraid of working more than 40hrs/evenings/weekends.

3 years ago when I started working in research I didn't have any research experience either, was a bio major but I worked in IT after graduating then needed a career change. By chance, I went to dinner with my father, his old PI, and his son who was working in a lab but leaving for med school in a few months. Ended up volunteering in that lab for a month, took over the guy's job when he went to med school, then 2years later when my PI decided to move I switched over to a collaborator's lab. I think it's worked out very well for me, I've gotten published multiple times and have started to take over projects by myself. (Though not as well as my girlfriend, she started at the same time I did, but now has directed a project with a pharma as a consultant and her PI is promoting her to lab manager when they move)

One thing I can say is network, network, network. Around me, most research openings really never get posted since word spreads quickly by word of mouth of openings, and PIs prefer to hire somebody recommended by someone they know rather than blindly interview people (although my gf found her job just by randomly applying). And try to keep in touch with people, I've been surprised lately by how closely related labs/people are, it's like 2degrees of seperation.

As for saying you are applying to medical school, I think as long as you aren't an undergrad it's usually ok. I know of some PIs who have been burned in the past by premed undergrads who only superficially commit to the lab and barely show up but a full-time job is a completely different beast. I've been upfront with my PIs and have told them that I can commit for X years for sure and they've appreciated that.
 
just email professors in whatever department you want to research in. tell them you want to volunteer in the lab. do not mention a thing about wanting money. everyone likes free workers.

that's what I did and I got to do research in the medical school that I will now be attending. I had 0 experience in that particular field. they trained me on everything from western blots to digital microscopy to PCR to bacteria plating to cloning to running gels, etc. I told them I wanted to gain research experience for med school, so they showed me a little bit of everything that is used in most bio, micro, biochem, chem, etc. labs. that way I'd have lab experience for any potential lab I wanted to join in med school.

I didn't get anything published, but that's not why I was there. I was there to gain lab experience. You won't be given the chance to work on a potential-pub project without having experience first. also, in terms of med school admissions, they don't care if you have publications. would a pub be a bonus? sure, but they just like seeing premeds interested in research.
 
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And filling pipette tips. Good times, good times.:laugh:

Oh yeah, the other lab tech besides me did the pipette tip filling, leaving me with pouring all of their polyac-gels. But just like someone else said, if you have a good PI (mine was awesome and loved teaching, and getting young people into science) so it was easy to inch my way into doing cell culture by myself, making cell lysates, injecting oocytes with mRNA, doing some Westerns and silver staining and 2D-electrophoresis. All of that awesome experience just from an entry level job as long as you show them that you're interested!
 
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